Organizers of the upcoming “No Kings” rally in Helena say that a new state rule banning permits for weekend rallies on the Capitol grounds violates their First Amendment rights. State officials countered that the new rule, quietly instituted just last month, was intended to save money.

The update to permitting guidelines on the Montana.gov site, which has not been previously reported, states that public events requiring a permit “may only occur on weekdays and between the hours of 7 a.m. and 6 p.m., excluding holidays.”

The revisions apply to all state-owned or leased spaces or grounds at the Capitol Complex. The policy requires a permit for any public event that uses “state resources, requires setup of any structures, materials, displays, or requires clean-up.” A public event is defined as “any event that is open to the public and to which the public will have full access.”

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    Theron: It is the law, my lord. The Spartan army must not go to war.

    King Leonidas: Nor shall it. I’ve issued no such orders. I’m here, just taking a stroll, stretching my legs. These, uh, 300 men are my personal bodyguard.

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        We will not have change without enough people realzing that enough other people are willing to stand up for that change.

        Online discussion is the foundation for protests, and protests are the foundation for change. We need to build on those. They are useful for those reasons, but people are correct that they themselves will not effect the change we need.

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    Yeaaaah that ain’t gonna work. Protesting the government only when they allow it? Nah fuck all the way off with that.

    Stand up Montana! They are trying to stomp on your rights!

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          Do you think the Democratic Party decided to block DHS funding yesterday because they suddenly awoke to justice? The Democratic Party only felt comfortable doing this because they have seen there is widespread disapproval for the actions of ICE. I don’t think it’s a stretch to claim these protests have resulted in political action by elected representatives.

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            Are you honestly saying they only did their job because people complained… As a good thing?

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              You complained that regular people aren’t doing enough. I explained that regular people are doing stuff and now you are complaining about the way they are doing stuff. It sounds like you are the one ineffectually complaining.

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            No, I don’t. Americans sitting there complaining on the internet on how bad things are, but do nothing about it. At this point you are all part of the problem.

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          How do you think people get involved and build networks that aren’t currently activated?

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            … Oh… Networking is the issue… If only they’re was some kind of global network, interconnected with others… And there had been years to plan things…

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              Yes. Two things that are critical precursors to change include:

              1. Online discussion - to change minds, to see that there are numerous others who feel the same way
              2. Protests - to show people are willing to get out and stand up

              These two things can lead to change. Not doing them strongly lessens the chances for change.

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              You seem to be bragging of your cluelessness of the current political awareness of the average American.

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    Just tell everyone to leave their signs at home, clean up after themselves, and walk the capitol grounds and/or the surrounding areas chanting/yelling phrases in unison. Hard to drown out the unified voices of 1,000 people. That way they don’t use state resources, and don’t set up any structures, materials, or displays.

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    All those people who keep telling us protesting is useless please explain why republicans in power keep trying to suppress protests. What are they scared of?

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    “may only occur on weekdays and between the hours of 7 a.m. and 6 p.m., excluding holidays. when you have to be at work.”

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      Lol so… Everyone in the restaurant industry unite and lead this shit.

      Yalls weekend is Monday Tuesday, and your days start at 3pm.

      Ezpz.

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        Yalls weekend is Monday Tuesday

        Is it now? I’ve been in the industry for decades and across multiple countries, and while days off’re hardly ever on the weekend, they’re even less likely to be consecutive (unless you’re mgmt, or fucking someone who is). 😅🤷🏽‍♂️🤌🏼

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          Restaurant industry grind is Thursday through Sunday and 3-10ish unless you’re bar, then it’s later. Earlier for brunch on sat and sun.

          Monday Tuesday is usually owners and managers doing inventory and orders. Wednesday is for the new folks.

          Pretty much everywhere.

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              … Yes but you for some reason said that Monday Tuesday isn’t the weekend for restaurant industry.

              Which is not aligned with everything you just agreed with so I’m not sure what we’re doing here.

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      That’s what I got out of this. Only when the majority of people wouldn’t be able to easily attend.

      It’s suppression, no doubt about it. And the “requires cleanup” provision can apply to anything. Hell, one person who litters "requires cleanup.’

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    Duh, in the USA, speech that is free of government interference is only permitted in the Freeze Peach zones, and only on Freeze Peach days within the Freeze Peach times.

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    If you don’t want to pay for the permitting costs or organizing public protest through a permit system then people get to publicly protest without getting permits. You don’t get to eliminated a constitutional right over a budget reduction. Like wtf, these leaders are a threat to basic rights.