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Refuses to admit they need ukrainian anti drone tech. Because you know zelenskyy will make jd say thanks.
Trump is too childish for that. I bet Iran could make trump back down on asking others to protect the Strait of Hormuz just by making fun of usa begging others to help
They dont need it, they could just stop attacking Iran.
That would be admitting they made a mistake.
Never going to happen
What moral high ground? Did he have any at all to start?
And it continues…
- Israel now out of or very low on interceptors
- Israel taking so much damage from Iran they’re now threatening nukes
- Draft dodger now begging for help from allies he spent months breaking deals and partnerships with and shitting on their previous war contributions
- Draft dodger also begging for help from adversaries such as China and lifts sanctions on Russian oil
- Didn’t re-stock oil reserve, gets his muppet couch fucker on stage to blame Joe Biden for gas prices
- Realizes they can’t take the Strait back, takes over their island that they use to distribute, now held at a stalemate
- UK leadership calling him out on war being a distraction from the Epstein files
Can’t wait to see what other fuckups he makes today.
Oh, Donald…
If Norway had given him the prize he’d… have done the exact same things.
That fascist bitch from Venezuela “gave” him her prize, so he “has” one. And he’s still a dumb fucking moron who did this anyway.
There’s so much to keep track of… I’d forgotten about that. lol. So yeah. Exactly. oy.
Right? The rush is in the acquisition - he wouldn’t have been any different 24 hours later. Humans are conditioned to then immediately want the next thing they see, not appreciate the thing they got.
Worst war even conducted
So far
Mr FIFA world peace prize, with the cup held by hands of starving/dying people
[shits himself]
So if there was at least material gain for the American public, it would be ok?
nope, but it is useful to point how this isn’t just imperialism (which is bad), it is painfully incompetent imperialism (which is also bad, but points at the leaders being both evil and stupid)
Well no, but the point is the war rationale is pure sophistry. They try to say it would be a material benefit and it’s not that at all. So, even their unjustified justifications are pure falsehoods. There are zero good intentions behind anything trump does.
The meme is targeted at trump supporters.
There’s really no point in making a meme like this for peeps that already oppose him. Instead you should memorize a few bullet points to bring up in casual conversations with Trumpists.
Make sure it’s insidious too. Don’t say something like trump did a, b, and c, therefore trump bad. They’ll instinctively come to his defense. You gotta wormtongue this shit.
Say things like:
- Gas is so expensive now, why did trump attack Iran?
- I’m really worried about our country, won’t china take advantage of this?
- What if there is a draft?
Questions are usually better and you’re not trying to change minds. Just pile on mental debt, every little bit you add will help.
Based on my experience criticizing Iraq and Afghanistan for 20+ years here’s your canned responses:
- Gas is so expensive now, why did trump attack Iran?
“That’s why we gotta win. Finish the job and it’ll come down.”
- I’m really worried about our country, won’t china take advantage of this?
“China can’t beat America. The only advantages they can get is by stealing our technology.”
- What if there is a draft?
“I am too old to get drafted, so not my problem.”
Being concerned about China overtaking America in some metric really brings out some pretty dorment racism I have found. But there’s usually just a ‘one more inning’ mindset where it’ll all turn arpund against all logic and reason.
OP seems to be advocating for imperialism. Looking at the list what happens to anyone else is irrelevant to them.
- lose geopolitical standing
- run out of precision ammo
- need China’s rare earths to build more bombs
- switch to 1970 bombs and long ground war
- let Iran break petrodollar by allowing Yuan
- lose reserve currency status
- lose all allies
- trade deficit gets even worse
- Yuan becomes reserve currency
- Wall Street collapses completely
This might be those weeks where decades happen. So many possibilities. It’ll be exciting to see what happens, from a distance.
As someone with an inside perspective, I’ll appreciate your outside perspective for a quick laugh between cry-sessions
honestly, can’t believe that an Iran-US war is becoming an Iranian victory, with most of the US supporting Iran.
US was always a paper tiger. the military isn’t designed for any sort of war, but designed to funnel public funds to military shareholders’s pockets.
Idk, it’s possible our military just always sucked but Im more inclined to believe it’s just ineffective because the people running it are absolute braindead clowns.
You military has always been extremely capable of attack.
But your defense has been destroyed by corruption since at least the 90s.
both. it was designed to be a money sink. that’s why it’s budget is greater than basically all the rest of the world military, but lost a 20+ year war against some of the poorest peoples in the world.
It is incredibly effective against civilians though
A lot of military is just the massive upkeep, and thats I think where the US shines, given they can export any inflation created.
Yeah, the US military is only good at murdering brown agrarian peasants. Especially their ground forces; they regularly get schooled in international exercises and they have to tell the OPFOR to take it easy on them because it hurts their feelings to not be the best.
For all the American hate against socialism, the military is our biggest jobs program.
I don’t think its a question of skill or training.
Iran holds all the cards.
“You fool, you just activated my trap card”
“Uhh… uhh… But woke… and trans children… and groomers… ohh… he was a friend of Epstein…”
It’s not quite as exciting, watching it happen from inside.
high gas prices
This is great news for the climate and renewables.
killing religious fanatic rulers, who murder their citizens by the thousands
Not shedding a tear.
we are killing religious fanatic rulers, who murder their citizens by the thousands by murdering their citizens by the thousands…
People will not drive less. But this will increase the prices of literally everything, because literally everything needs to be transported. And everyone will pay the price, not just the people driving cars or running generators.
Congratulations. You win the “extremely myopic commenter who makes you wonder how they understand anything” award for this thread.
The problem is we’re killing thousands of innocent Iranians to stop the mullahs killing thousands of innocent Iranians.
Do you have a source for thousands of innocent Iranians being killed by the US and Israel?
They are attacking the regime and military infrastructure.
Do you live under a rock? Are you ignorant of the bombing Israel and the us have been doing? Double taps and what not?
No, i don’t have a source. I have thousands of them, use google.
There have been worse wars but they’ve accumulated their worseness over a longer period of time. In terms of failures per minute, Epstein Fury is in the lead
Second only to the Seven Hours War.
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Im a stealer bastard and took it from reddit. Idk if someone added it to the picture or if reddit does it automatically
But Lemmy don’t like when people go there
For the most part, I don’t think Lemmy cares what other sites people visit, including Reddit.
That said, mostly site/user watermarks are pretty stupid. Like do they expect some kind of credit for attribution for a meme? And it’s also kind of curious, as I’ve never seen this style of reddit watermark before. What does it even mean? Is it from a cowboy sub?
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Crediting the author is not bad idea. With that sticker someone who liked this very much and wants to see more similar stuff may try to track down the source.
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Blames Biden for fuel prices being high
Ah, like an even stupider “Vietnam War”.
We can now also add to that:
Admonish other ‘allies’ for not pre-committing their navies to the … surprise attack.
Within 48 hrs, claim it is the responsibility of every other navy in the world to help you with a military campaign against a target that you claim you’ve already destroyed 100% of their military.
One question: how come that US gas prices are affected that heavily by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz? Cos unlike Europe, the US has a lot more capacity to produce oil domestically? So can’t they just do that? The US shouldn’t be this dependent on oil from the arab countries compared to Europe?
The US doesn’t produce all of the oil they need.
And all of oil has the same price (taking into account its composition, transportation costs, etc), so it doesn’t happen that 70% of the fuel you buy is cheaper, and only the last 30% gets more expensive. The oil producers are always happy to cash-in the difference and sell it at the market price.
Simple answer: Money. Because businesses would rather sell it for market price on the global market than for cheap to domestic customers.
Domestic production was one of the perks of North Sea oil exploration that was sold to the British public, but it never led to lowered gas or electricity bills…
My guess is a combination of restricted supply and speculation. The largely unregulated market of the u.s. is allows investors to just buy up the supply of a commodity especially if everyone knows the price is about to jump. Add to that the fact that a large % of the world’s oil passes through the straight of hormuz means that a lot of gas that would be used in the states is being shipped elsewhere.
The US can produce more than anyone else. But they can’t produce enough of the correct type of crude. What they can produce is good for gasoline, but not other fuel types without investing heavily in refactoring infrastructure which would take years. It’s cheaper to just buy it from others. That’s why diesel is skyrocketing. This is what they quickly discovered after kidnapping Venezuela’s leader. US imports most of their heavy oil from Canada, who he has spent months destroying relationships and agreements with because they refuse to bend the knee.
He just enacted an emergency order for California to re-open sites off the coast. It won’t be enough. US would still need to import millions of barrels a day to keep inflation down.
