I was just reading this thread… https://sh.itjust.works/post/23476261

…and it got me thinking about something that I’ve wanted for a long time. Why is it that keyboards have not evolved to have dedicated copy/paste keys left of the main board? I’d love to see an additional column of keys left of Esc->Ctrl configurable as macros at least. I do a lot of copy/paste for work. The current shortcuts arent terrible or anything but they’re not exactly comfortable. I’d rather move my whole hand to the left for a macro key than contort to hit the current shortcut.

What do you think?

  • HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    At some point, the populace felt keyboard shortcuts were enough and they have everything else they need on a keyboard. It’s the standard, other keyboard designs didn’t really quite take off, and most people can barely use a full-sized keyboard anyway.

    Some people prefer smaller keyboards, and are willing (and wanting) to have more shortcuts and function layers for ergonomic and desk space reasons.

    (If you use a 40% or smaller keyboard, you’re weird, and I love/hate you.)

    Some other people use so many shortcuts that it becomes so infeasible to remember or press them all, so they get macro pads, or even entire additional keyboards to function as macro pads.

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      5 months ago

      In the Before Time, there were physical keyboard overlays for specific apps. For example Wordperfect had an overlay that showed it’s keyboard functions.

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        5 months ago

        Yes, it’s weird, but maybe he does a lot. For example, I use the superkey+space to change the keyboard layout about five times per minute, but I changed it to use the Caps Lock key to change the keyboard layout instead.

  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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    Why is it that keyboards have not evolved to have dedicated copy/paste keys left of the main board?

    You mean like on a Sun type 4 keyboard, they had this since the early 90’s at least.

    If you want this, you can try to find a Sun type 7 keyboard which has a USB connector. You should be able to get it to work on Windows with a bit of remapping of the extra keys.

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    I disagree. [Modifier] + C & [mod] + V works just as good as a dedicated button and you are using the space more efficiently by having multiple uses for one key.

    Keyboard already has a lot of buttons. We should be considering which to remove, not any additions

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      5 months ago

      I don’t think we need to remove anything. I mean if you really want a smaller keyboard that badly you could get one of the ones that removes the number pad.

      But as someone who was a cashier long ago before GS1 codes on produce, we got fast at 10-key typing by touch. The thought of doing a spreadsheet or extended number-work without the number pad is unthinkable to me…

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    Have you tried the shortcuts for the other side of the keyboard

    Ctrl + insert = copy

    Shift + insert = paste

    Shift + delete = cut

    I find them much easier to use than the traditional shortcuts.