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      Virtually no one here likes Erdogan whatsoever, but our interests in relation to Ukraine and weakening USA/Russia aligns in this particular case. Turkey is a large country that actually borders the EU and has the largest non-European diaspora living here; keeping somwhat cood relations makes sense, even if I’d never want to see them join the Union and know we can never fully trust them.

      As we lost our biggest ally, trading with another large country with a significant military makes perfect sense. Besides, Turkish food is actually great, especially compared to murican trash

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        Totally get that, and I won’t ever make any false equivalence or both-sides arguments.

        I was just surprised they went with Turkish instead of, say, Mexican or Spanish, or another country not as problematic.

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          Well, seeing as it’s written in German: Germany’s and Austria’s largest national minorities are Turks. Estimates are tough, but at least 3 million people (probably more like 5 million) in Germany have Turkish ‘migrationshintergrund’ and up to 500 000 people in Austria. Many have been there since the early 1960s, and, although it hasn’t been all smooth sailing, Turkish culture and food has a significant place in both countries. So with that in mind I think this choice makes sense. Mexican food is lovely imo, but Germans don’t have particular ties to the culture, people or food. (Not to mention the fact that whenever there’s “Mexican” food in Europe broadly it’s a watered-down version of tex-mex, which I do still like anyway)

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      1. He is a million times better than Trump and has far far less blood on his hands than either Trump or Biden
      2. Turkiye isn’t engaging in economic warfare against Europe
      3. Turkiye welcomed Syrian and Ukrainian refugees escaping the wars
      4. Turkiye supports Ukraine in various ways such as drones

      Turkiye is a Muslim country as well as a European country, so it is in an odd place to be but also bridges both worlds.

      Edit: I know about the Kurds, I am from the Middle East. Turkiye had a history of racist nationalism that Erdogan actually campaigns against. Turkiye and Erdogan are not angels or innocent but are a far lesser evil than many others.

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        He literally blocks all new NATO membership and you claim he has no blood on his hands?

        Edit: and I assume he has finally taken action towards earthquake building safety? Or is that still just god’s will?

        Edit2: funny that you have time to talk to me about cookie flavors but pretend these questions don’t exist

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        You didn’t mention the Kurds. Turkey’s action towards Kurds is one of the main reasons to dislike Turkey.

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          It’s not making headlines but Kurds and Turkiye stroke the biggest peace deal over the last month. PKK agreed to dissolve itself.

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        I’m sorry but all the campaigning in the world doesn’t matter when he can’t stop the oppression of Kurds as the leader of his country.

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        also, turkiye seems to be on the verge of working things out with ocalan and the kurds, which is impressive

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        ITT: people ignoring the genocides they’ve committed, while pointing out other’s

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      Turkiye also has a large military industry looking to sell to the EU, a large military, and wants control over the black sea (which involves weakening Russia), and wants to be as friendly to the EU as possible to eventually get that coveted EU membership.

      Yeah, an opportunistic authoritarian, but a useful one in this dire emergency.

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        I would be surprised if they didn’t already done that, seeing how prolific is their movie production series

        (Since a couple years TV channels in my European country are broadcasting dozens and dozens Turkish tv series dubbed in local language, and my country has no ties with Turkey, only 0.3% of the immigrants are Turkish)

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    What is it called when you’re actually proud of seeing your country exposed as the tyrannical monster you’ve always known it to be, are happy to see other nations no longer kissing its ass, and desire nothing more than for the rulers of the nation to fall and suffer as you have?

    It’s this weird Reverse Patriotism I’m filled with

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    Why did American stuff get the works? That’s nobody’s business but the Turks!

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    The Turks did more for Germany than any US-American so good choice

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      The marshmallows are there for the same reason as canned pumpkin and cranberry sauce: 🦃 Thanksgiving. There’s no excuse for Poptarts.

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          They go on top of the sweet potatoes/yams.

          1.Roast or boil your yams/sweet potatoes until soft. If you buy canned, they’ll already be very sweet, so taste before you add anything.

          2.Discard the skins, and chop/mash the insides with butter, salt, pepper, brown sugar, cinnamon, and orange juice or milk (not both!) until you like the texture and taste.

          3.Spread the mixture in a flattish oven-safe serving dish and arrange marshmallows on top. It can now go into the fridge until the turkey is out of the oven.

          4.Before serving, put into a hot oven until they’re hot and the marshmallows are puffed and toasted.

          You CAN obviously make them without the marshmallows, but then it’s just a vegetable, not a festive treat of childhood memories.