• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    2 months ago

    Reminder that before all this El Salvador was sweeping up anyone and I mean anyone they found on the street during their sweeps and throwing them in huge overcrowded cells to await mass trials without representation.

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    2 months ago

    The picture on the left is from when the prison first opened, so won’t show any of the deportees

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      Oh hell. OTOH, I’d imagine we have no reason to think it’s looking better these days.

      Still, thanks for the correction, I took that as I found it.

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      You know what, it’s fine. At least you’ll be sitting in a lower ring of hell than me for laughing at this. 😌

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    2 months ago

    Hitler specifically called the U.S. treatment of indigenous people an inspiration, and used it as his basis for treating Jews, gays, communists, intellectuals, and all the other victims of the Third Reich. tRump and his Fourth Reich is just coming full circle.

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    2 months ago

    A little reminder, apparently Salvadorians are loving Bukele for this.

    I tried reminding them that, removing due-process is a can-of-worms that you rather not open

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    Ok, so I’ve never been a “meme” guy and think it’s stupid we have to force everything into the “meme” format but seriously, this is not a meme. I don’t think it should be removed but just sayin.

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          I can name about 30 very tatted people who have never committed a crime that I have personally met. Tattoos are not an indicator of criminality.

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            2 months ago

            I mean, things have different meanings depending on your local culture. I think it’s much rarer for normal people to get tattoos in El Salvador than where you love.

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              Well they lived in the US. Hence the deportation. Which is also where I live.

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      2 months ago

      Those are send by Trump without any sort of trial. Nothing to do with El Salvador cracking down hard on gangs.

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      I’m inclined to ask you to re-read your comment because I really can’t make sense of it.

      The first paragraph doesn’t make much sense at all given how it is written. In the second you say “it saved the country,” and if you’re trying to say that forcefully deporting people out of America without reason or due process “saved the country” you’re 100% going to have cite a source, or at least give a reason for why you think that’s true.

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        I get what he’s saying, but he added like no context so everyone is confused (including him because he seems to not realize the OP is about Trump)

        The president of El Salvador is famous for taking a “hard stance” on gangs, by basically doing the same thing Trump is doing. He rounded up thousands of suspected gang members and threw them into forced labor camps without any kind of due process. That’s why Trump is sending these immigrants to El Salvador, because the president is a vicious dictator who doesn’t care about human rights.

        It has been a massive scandal for a while in LatAm news, but it’s the same tired old strongman bullshit you see in many places in South/Central America (and now in the north too!). Effective propaganda and control over the military means the problem won’t be solved without foreign intervention and/or a spontaneous combustion event involving government leaders.

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        I think in the first paragraph, he meant El Salvador. Said country had huge gang violence problem which Bukele improved, but at the cost of severe human rights violation.

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          Given the edit, I think you’re right even though the post is clearly about Trump deporting people without due process.

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      i think you make some nuanced points.

      fixing things is messy and sometimes, even your enemies can deliver improvements. i’m not so mired in politics i can’t see objectively. i still think the administration should be toppled by any means necessary if we want to truly save america from eternal dystopia.

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    “Accused of being gang members” lmao let’s be clear here 90% of these dudes literally have gang tattoos 🙈

    Also you can cover tattoos at any time, it’s not that hard.

    I’ve been in the tattoo scene since the 90s and have a full body of tattoos myself and everybody knows that a gang tattoo is a point if no return and basically the dumbest thing you can do. If you went there then I have zero sympathy for you.

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      Even if 99% of them are actually gang member, then there is still a bunch of innocent people locked up. Using the word ‘accused’ or ‘suspected’ isn’t meant to cause doubt, it’s to make clear they haven’t been convicted. I really wouldn’t want to be falsely accused and treated as these men are, and it’s really awful knowing some of them could be there without having done anything wrong.

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      But they’re innocent until there’s proof of guilt. Sending people to forced labour encampments because of their tattoos is just a different nazi move.

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      Can you point out the criminal statue against certain tattoos? After that would you mind showing me where they were convicted for those tattoos. Then I’d appreciate a link to the federal sentencing guidelines on tattoo-related offenses that suggest forced labor camps overseas.

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      Even if they are gang members they still should have due process and a trial. This is one of the foundations of our legal system. Where does that leave us if we just leave it to law enforcement to throw anyone in prison without any oversight? That’s straight up authoritarianism you’re arguing for.

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      This administration really shows how little of a fuck the party that won’t stop jerking themselves off about the constitution actually give about what it says.

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      Honestly, when I was a kid, one of my classmates dressed up like that and I’m pretty sure he would tag around the school. The kid was a trouble maker. But that doesn’t mean much when I realized that he was homeless and his mom would still clean him up and send him to school.