- cross-posted to:
- usa@midwest.social
- cross-posted to:
- usa@midwest.social
Summary
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick claimed that most seniors would not complain if Social Security checks were missed, suggesting that only “fraudsters” would object.
His remarks sparked backlash as Social Security is a critical income source for millions, including 15% of women and 12% of men over 65 who rely on it for 90% of their income.
Amid rising concerns, Maryland Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander criticized acting SSA head Lee Dudek for threatening to cut IT access, escalating fears of disruptions.
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“Only fraudsters will complain”
I smell a “no true Scotsman” fallacy here.
It’s laying the groundwork for “if you complain we’ll take your benefits away completely, because you’re a fraudster” instead.
Seniors could be dying of hunger on state capitol steps and they would be saying “it’s just a few bodies, they were old anyway”
See also: COVID-19 response under Trump
indeed. republicans do not care.
Texas’ lieutenant governor suggests grandparents are willing to die for US economy
I wish we could say that about Donald and the rest of the old fucks in Congress
Oh, he’s STUPID stupid, got it.
No, he’s malicious.
Not saying he isn’t that too, just that his take is bafflingly stupid.
never attribute to stupidity, that which can be attributed to malice.
Yes because that’s what boomers are known for. Not complaining.
Man, they even complain about it when it isn’t even relevant.
The number of times I’ve heard “blah blah blah, my social security is my investment, blah blah blah, take it over our dead bodies, and we’ll leave no inheritance behind” is too damn high
I have a relative that lives off social security. They have no other income will literally die quickly without social security. So yeah I guess they can’t complain if they are dead can they.
Donald: some of you may die. But that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
So, who’s gonna tell Lutnick that voter turnout for those age 65 and above is 75%+?
And it’s not like old folks like to complain about things just for the fuck of it, right?
Lutnick and Trump are going to discover why they call Social Security the third rail of American politics.
No theyre not, these people will probably still vote for them
You massively underestimate the old people in this country.
You massively underestimate the brainwashing that’s been done.
This is one thing you don’t fuck with. Every time it has been tried, senior citizens say “fuck it, if I’m dying I’m bringing the bastards down with me.”
Boomers don’t need us for this fight. If the government skips out on social security, the absolute worst people to piss off, get pissed off.
You know what Boomers have? Free time. You know what Boomers are acutely aware of? They’re running out of time.
Medicaid? Honestly, they can cut that with minimal fear. Medicare? Same thing.
Social Security? That’s pulling the pin on a grenade and playing hot potato with it.
I think they are counting on 2024 being our last elections.
They haven’t hid that giving Trump a third term is their intent.
So he hopes they just starve and die quietly?
That’s what they want for all of us who aren’t “productive”.
Even if you only care about the economy, it’s so stupid. All that money won’t circulate because people can’t spend what they don’t have. so businesses get less, they have to let people go, and now they can’t spend. giving money to poor people is great for the economy, because it instantly recirculates and doesn’t sit in an account. it’s not even ‘giving,’ in this case, either. people pay into it for a purpose.
But they don’t care about the economy, and of course they don’t care about the human cost. They care about ‘fraud,’ as in, how to commit it and enrich themselves through theft of the money people pay for services.
Conservatives aren’t generally considered smart, kind, people.
They won’t be able to complain because you’ve turned off all the phones and shut down most of the SSA branches.
I found this out when researching care for my grandparent. You have to spend all of the money before they can be eligible for certain types of care. They make you get rid of it all or forfeit it.
Maybe his rich cushy mom won’t, but once all those poor, fat, fraudulent whale welfare queens in the South don’t see their monthly “disability” check, it’ll be a different story.
I’m not sure I understand which argument you’re supporting here.
He’s saying Trumpistan is the biggest welfare recipient. They are also armed, angry, and uneducated. At some point they will discover its not Brandon taking the social security checks. If they are hungry enough it won’t matter. The trumpers across the street form me had 3 generations of adult men living with their 95 year old grandmother. Who’s income do you think that was?
This
There are a lot of armed seniors out there. Give them nothing to lose. Go on.
Reminds me somewhat of when Paul Bremer, Bush Jr’s “vice-roy” in Iraq, decided to disband the Iraqi Army overnight, leaving tens of thousands of heavily armed Iraqis stranded without a job or source of income. IIRC, that’s how the Iraqi insurgency started.
IIRC, that’s how the Iraqi insurgency started.
Yep.
CPA orders didn’t just disband the Iraqi army but also fired everyone in the top three management layers of hospitals, state-owned industries, universities, and government ministries.
It also didn’t help that it was standard procedure for US forces to conduct door-to-door raids and throw so-called “military-aged males” (which often included young teens and children) without any due process into military prisons including a torture camp with a US official admitting that 99% of them were guilty of nothing. This understandably, got the population of Iraq pissed.
Who are you suggesting that they shoot? The mailman or bank clerk that has nothing to do with it? Who do you imagine these people have access to?
You would be amazed where a senior citizen can get. Old people can be invisible.
'Where did you get all the money?” “The Government. I didn’t earn it, I don’t need it. But if they miss one payment, I’ll raise hell!”
- Grampa Simpson
But he DID earn social security
Well Grampa Simpson more then likely didn’t need social security because of the pension he received after working 30yrs as a night watchmen at the cranberry silo.
according to this survey: in 2023 only 64% of retired people age 65+ received any income from pensions. I can’t he but think that number is probably inflated as they note “Sources of income include the income of a spouse or partner.”
If they were to stop SS checks, they would lose so many voters that no Republican would ever be elected to any office anywhere.
Which is why we know that since they are actually talking about this, they dont need those votes, because they dont intend to ever have a fair election again, or maybe no elections at all.
I’m not sure anything would pry them away from the GOP.
Seriously, just seeing all the rural Town halls that overwhelmingly voted against their own interests, chanting things that run directly counter to their own votes.
