• cybervseas@lemmy.world
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      …and also thousands of enablers in every branch of government, every boardroom, and every newsroom.

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          This is the important part.

          The whole world suffered trump’s first term as a sort of scam that many confused, struggling Americans fell for.

          But then y’all go and do it a second time? Fuck you.

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          And millions who didn’t vote for him but also didn’t protest his actions.

          Imagine how Canadians may feel upon seeing their “friends” go along with Trump’s actions.

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              to all the American leftists useless idiots who refused to vote against trump

              FTFY. Voting against trumpy was the easiest decision for anybody who opposes fascism.

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                From Europe, I see the republicans as a stick and the democrats as a carrot.
                You are angry because people refused to vote against the stick, and I understand why, it makes sense.
                At the same time, it’s easy to understand that there are people against the carrot&stick system, and I wouldn’t consider them useless idiots for not voting for the carrot.
                Also, the carrot is fucking stale.

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                  I consider enabling the “stick” to be beat the fuck out of you just because you’re “not into carrots” to be objectively stupid. I’m a Euro transplant and I can’t see how it is less stupid from a European perspective. The saddest part is that my wife and I have recession-proof professions, people who got us into this situation don’t.

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              Also congrats to all the American liberals who are too useless to actually do anything about their horrible country.

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              The good news, if you can call it good news, is that Trump and co are so evil, and incompetent, that it’s waking people up to the awful system they live under.

              Harris and The Democrats would’ve been able to continue with business as usual and nothing would change. At least now there’s some hope of a left surge in the wake of all this right wing hatred, pain, and suffering

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                Some surge? Maybe?

                Any reasonable amount that will make a damned but if difference? Yeah no it won’t. People never learn. Even when they suffer under something they will claim it happened because of that thing over there. People won’t change.

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              Kamala wouldn’t have won if she got the entire 3rd party vote

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                  Unfortunately, most of them are not the leftists mentioned at the top of this thread.

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                  I’d imagine people in democratic strongholds knew their votes weren’t going to make a difference for their state, within a confidence interval.

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    Damn bros. This makes me sad on a Friday. We used to be besties.

    Eh fuck governments, I’ll always love my Canadian bros.

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      Just like I have nothing against Chinese or Russian citizens, I hope others will be able to separate us from our fascist government.

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        Unfortunately the tools of statecraft aren’t all that granular. To make the Trump regime suffer, many Americans will suffer even if they don’t support Trump.

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          Yes, it’s unavoidable that we all have to suffer because of his regime. Same deal with the Russian sanctions.

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    I wonder if this and others will force US rebuilding efforts to include governmental reform if and when Trump is out. No amount of Obamas can reassure people the US isn’t just going to flip out the left time it changes hands again.

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      Sadly i don’t think that will happen unless there is a substantial degradation of the quality of life in red states. The failure and the cause needs to be so mind numbingly apparently to even the most entrenched Trump supporter that they actually force their representative to join in on real reform. Unfortunately if we do have another election and control switches it’s most likely going to still have 40% or more of the voting population have political blindness. Farmers will lose their farms and still vote Republican.

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    those are words of a politician. This is what “sells” today. We’ll need to see very specific actions to back it up. Thus far most politicians shown lack of spine and would turn on a dime at first opportunity. Canada could’ve been “divorced” from US for over a decade now when Cretien hinted at desire to move in that direction… but nope, here we are overdependant on US and thumping our chests “never again”.

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      We’ve always known our growing interdependence is a risk, but there’s been many benefits and decades of good experience. Occasionally, the US has done things that have slowed this progression and has made many of us wary while some (especially business leaders in sectors such as oils and gas) insisting it’s silly paranoia.
      For politicians to make such a major move, there has to be a strong interest or concern amongst electorate. In a matter of weeks, Trump obliterated the idea that this is silly paranoia, and there’s a strong sense of halt! Fuck no! reverse, hard! So I think it is completely different this time.

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        lets hope it “sticks”. Any class in economics say “diversify your portfolio”, Canada needs just that. 10% hit is less than 90% hit if you’re dealing with multiple partners.

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    Now think of all the jobs to secure a massive border that didn’t need to be guarded for generations!

    /s

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        Dudes said nothing but the complete opposite the entire time he’s been leader of the opposition. Bring jobs to Canada, Canada first, ect. This is made up bullshit that he would “sell out” anything.

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                Canada needs to do some things like the US, there’s no getting around it.

                Getting more resources out of the ground, across the country, and to trade partners is critical. It always has been, and the liberals have opposed this for decades.

                The things Mark has done so far that people seem to like are mostly things the opposition has been saying for several years.

                Interprovincial trade barriers? Gone. Pipeline across the country? Probably will not happen with the liberals. Carbon Tax? Well, it’s being hidden somewhere else. I could go on.

                There’s no reason the think the last ten years of complete stagnation, scandals and lies will not continue especially given a majority of the party remains the same.

                I’m more concerned about Carneys global elitist buddy’s at WEF and blackrock then I am about anything Pierre has talked about.

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                  No, we don’t need to do like the us. Unless you want fascist. Getting rid of interprovincial trade barriers is good. Pipeline across the country? Not great. The carbon tax was good. The last 10 years weren’t complete stagnation, scandals and lies, at least not more than harpers reign. I’m more concerned about Pierre’s association and trumpism than carneys WEF contacts

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      There is no liberal party, there is no ndp.

      There is you, the frog, and the scorpion, the conservative party. And every election the scorpion will ask you to let it ride across the river on your back.