The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.
“I keep asking them, ‘who are you? What are you doing here? What’s happening,’” she said. “And they said, ‘we have a warrant for the house, a search warrant.’”
She said they ordered her and her daughters outside into the rain before they could even put on clothes.
“They wanted me to change in front of all of them, in between all of them,” she said. “My husband has not even seen my daughter in her undergarments—her own dad, because it’s respectful. You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”
Marisa said the names on the search warrant were not hers or anyone in her family.
“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”
She said the agents didn’t care.
“They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she said. “I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything.”
Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”
“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”
Before they left, Marisa said one of the agents made a comment.
“One of them said, ‘I know it was a little rough this morning,’” she said. “It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was a little rough? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow.”
Now, Marisa said they have, quite literally, nothing.
“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.
Marisa said she is left with nothing but questions.
People are going to stop answering the doors politely.
They were asleep
I’m reminded of Breonna Taylor now. Different circumstances, but the same perpetrators.
steals their life savings
Everything new is a forgotten old, Wallenstein’s turn.
But yeah, more such stories, more rougher reactions.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years
I used to think anti gun people would face reality at some point. Then January 6th happened, and blue conservatives still wanted to disarm the people.
Even after repeatedly demonstrating they or the justice system will never defend us. We are on our own.
And yet, those who want easy access to guns argue its to protect themselves from tyrannical power. They are also not doing that. Perhaps, in part, because the power disparity between military, police, and a civilian gun owner makes personal guns little more than display pieces.
Gun ownership is a hobby. Most of the dialogue around them is theater. Those who enjoy guns own far more than is needed for ‘defense’, because it’s enjoying ownership that they’re actually defending.
Perhaps, in part, because the power disparity between military, police, and a civilian gun owner makes personal guns little more than display pieces.
So it’s better to let it grow more, right?
Gun ownership is a hobby. Most of the dialogue around them is theater. Those who enjoy guns own far more than is needed for ‘defense’, because it’s enjoying ownership that they’re actually defending.
That’s obvious, hard to do a lot of what you don’t enjoy if you can avoid it. Of course it’s theater. Most of the dialogue around karate is theater. It still somewhat prepares one physically for various events.
I wrote a Gemini (small web) client in the last 2 days, of course it’s theater, I don’t have a modus of using Gemini yet, but it was useful. At least I have a client convenient for me personally, I’ve gained some experience (ok, it’s a simple task, but), some self-confidence.
With guns - of course it’s mostly a very cool toy, people also do historical fencing with swords. But they also learn things about military history and something about using small arms. Better than nothing, sniper rifles still have a place in warfare, even if typical “assault rifles” are almost like a bayonet in WWII, still has uses, but very secondary.
Learning is the root of any achievement. Learning is helped by joy. Why should this be different for defense?
Any decent person who did not vote for this needs to absolutely gtfo of red states and assume they’re a no-go zone from here on out. Of course the blue states won’t be safe forever, but there is absolutely no reason to put yourself in danger by going to one of those Nazi shit holes.
The lack of DV resources/the fact that my ex basically created a cult and it’s really hard to navigate a divorce when you’ve been tortured and also still think that he must actually love you means that I am hopelessly shackled to this place. I’ve lived the cruelty of this state so long that I don’t feel like a human being anymore.
I just hope they don’t burn my paintings and books. I want them to stay together. I want my art and thoughts to be recognized because they’ve never been welcome here.
I felt it when Zach killed himself. I didn’t know him close but I did. I felt it even more when Nex was murdered, when it was covered up and everyone just passively accepted the narrative that Alex Jones and /pol/ had been sharing since they were killed because the Stitt appointee said so.
Oklahoma is sick. It’s been sick since it’s inception - the “boomers” that couldn’t even wait to steal their land. The “Little House on the Prairie” family did that even before the boomers. The murders of the Osage - that even today not all the murders are known as murders. It’s a bloodsick land.
I would love to flee to a blue-r area. Somewhere where sharing with my neighbors and participating in community doesn’t feel like supporting racism and misogyny.
But, I have a disabled family member that needs care in their home, so … for now my sense of familial duty keeps me in a very red area.
I sick of the red state garbage. Nearly every “red” state has “blue” cities. Stop blaming entire populations, age groups or other demographics. You’re just falling for the divide and conquer message they want to use against everyone.
Nah, what I actually said was if you’re in a red state and you didn’t vote for this, get the fuck out for your own protection. If you’ll take a second to read, that’s what I said. If you don’t take a second to read, that still remains what I said. I didn’t blame anyone in the state who didn’t vote for this for it, now did I? I said get out. You do you, man.
The vast majority of Americans do not have the means to up and move to a new state.
They won’t come to Blue states. I can promise you. If Federal Agents try pulling this shit in California. They won’t get out of the state to save their lives.
Don’t make brash promises you can’t keep, they absolutely have already come to blue states and they were all over blue states during Trump’s last term, too.
I’m in Cali, I want to believe that you’re right, but they’ve been going up and down the central valley black bagging brown people in home Depot parking lots.
Links? I didnt hear about this.
Calmatters has covered it pretty well. There’s been more raids, but this was the first article on it that I could find for you. https://calmatters.org/economy/2025/01/kern-county-immigration-sweep/
A justice recently issued an injunction against them just scooping up brown people first and finding out if they’re here illegally or criminals later, but IIRC they went ahead and ignored that and did another raid.
E: more recent article https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/04/border-patrol-injunction/
FTA:
After the January sweep, the man who led it, Chief Patrol Agent Gregory Bovino, said his agents specifically targeted people with criminal and immigration histories. However, a CalMatters investigation revealed that the Border Patrol had no criminal or immigration history on 77 of the 78 people it arrested.
The court also ordered the Border Patrol to document every stop and provide reports within 60 days. During oral arguments on Monday, the government attorney said doing so would be burdensome to Border Patrol agents. Judge Thurston rebuked the government, saying: “They have to make a report for every arrest, not sure what the burden is.”
According to sworn declarations filed in court by those detained, Border Patrol agents slashed tires, yanked people out of trucks, threw people to the ground, and called farmworkers “Mexican bitches.”
Me and everyone I know has absolutely no means to just up and move to another state and find employment, a place to live that’s affordable, and the moving costs. We can’t afford to flee for safety
Why aren’t ice agents getting popped by now?
Because their fellow nazis will retalliate in force
And then promptly shoot each other in the face.
Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”
I’m actually thinking of cloud storage for this reason. Anyone know a good reliable and affordable cloud provider that’s not US-based, and I can pay for like a year in advance? (End to End Encryption doesn’t matter since I can just do local encryption.)
- KDrive
- Proton Drive
- Nextcloud on Hetzner
- pCloud
Don’t store data on other people’s computers. Use encryption locally and store an encrypted backup at a friend’s house, or in a bank safe if you must.
Friend and Bank safes would be in the US, subject to the US’s ICE/Gestspo “civil asset forfeiture”. Only foreign cloud storage is safe.
I don’t see why “other people’s computers” is a problem. Encrypt, then upload.
I understood the worry to be about storage devices being stolen from home. In which case it would be safe at a friend’s house. Putting an encryptes backup anywhere online is partially okay, but most people trust their cloud solution software for encryption, which is about as good as sensing your unencrypted data to that company.
Even with encrypted backups the risk is that totalitarian regimes / corporations store data forever. And if your encyption keys ever leak, or the algorithm is broken, you’re fucked in retrospect.
if your encyption keys ever leak
That part is true regardless of where you’re storing your data.
Nah, if you store them offline, you should ideally know when one of your backups has been stolen. Anything ever stored online is forever in limbo.
Or locally encrypt your data and then store it on other people’s computers. Just make sure to never put all your eggs in one basket.
If you’re technically inclined, learn about trusted enclaves on untrusted platforms. You’ll need to know it, if not now, then very soon.
The problem with this is that anywhere you can store a file or place a backup then becomes a legal target for an ICE raid. They get a warrant to steal all your stuff, regardless of where it may be. When they steal your computers, they’ll find records of your system sending files off to an offsite backup somewhere. They can then use that as legal justification to go raid your friend’s house, and they’ll steal not only your backup drive, but all your friend’s computers as well.
The only way this doesn’t work is if the files are stored on the servers of a giant multinational or an offshore cloud provider. ICE isn’t going to be breaking into data centers and physically carting off hard drives. They instead would simply request a copy of the data, and the cloud provider would share it with them.
I think you have GenZ tunnel view on this. I was suggesting to bring physical backup media to a friend’s house :)
Proton cloud is a good one.
Added context for the non-tech crowd to explain the downvotes. Proton checks all the boxes, EU based (swiss), good platform that is working towards being a unified google services replacemnt. For most people I do still recommend them, I quite like their software.
But for the socially concious nerd, their CEO put their foot in their mouth on the artist formerly known as twitter late last year, and that damaged their user bases trust in them (no policy changed, they just stated opinions that were very out of touch with their US user base)
There is a lot of nuance to the issue, im glossing over a lot and I feel it gets blown out of proportions on Lemmy.
Amazing that the top comment is this crap spam sock puppet nonsense. Come on this account is 23 hours old. I get not wanting to support us companies, but the flood of brand new accounts posting stupid questions about it is ridiculous.
Hmm I wonder why someone would use a throwaway account? Maybe something to do with the US becoming fascist?
cloud is ridiculous. just set up some mini servers with friends or family. rsync your stuff with them over wireguard every now and then. The cloud should absolutely never ever be trusted.
If they can get a warrant to steal your shit, they can steal shit from your friends and family if they can show that you have files on their property as well. All this will result in is your family members having all their computers stolen as well.
This is true. But they will have to send people out to get that drive and you will know about it. In the cloud, a government can take that data and the provider is forbidden from telling you.
Hetzner has it’s cloud storage boxes and it’s pretty cheap and supports a lot of different backup solutions: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/
I have internxt , very rough compared to others but for long term storage it is good. Foss , encrypted and splitted.
I know nothing about tech but couldn’t someone wiser than me create the ability to decentralize people’s information. Scattering bits around the world on personal servers. Similar to how the fediverse works. I don’t honestly know shit about this so maybe I’m talking out my ass.
A well placed encrypted backup on two separately located microSD cards (in case mice eat the other), located within a few hundred meters of your actual residence, should be beyond the ability of common goons (ICE, cops, impatient FBI agents) to locate. They’d have to engage in long-term surveillance.
If curious kids find one, it’s still encrypted and you still have the other, and curious kids won’t take your primary data carrier by raiding your house either. You just replace the backup then and put it elsewhere.
Where can I get a 4TB microSD with reasonable read/write speeds?
Even 1 TB is arduous. Don’t back up your movie collection, let the feds have it if they want. Back up your code, correspondence and encryption keys. :)
Look at EU alternatives
Nothing is working thru your link.
Sorry about that, fixed it
Definitely cant see any comparisons to the SS there 👍
some fucking gestapo shit
Mistakes do happen, there’s no need to overreact or blow things out of proportion.
Go to hell you fascist piece of shit.
Is this sarcasm or are you a psychopath?
At this point if I ever have the displeasure of meeting an ice terrorist I’m going to shoot him/her
You gotta be smart, use obscure language embrace missed messaging.
IANAL, TINLA, but: Don’t publish plans to commit crimes.
If they are standing their ground it might be up for debate.
Exhibit A, Your Honor.
ICE is going to finance itself by stealing any money they can find. It’s Mob rules from the government under Trump.
Genocide abroad <—> Genocide at home
Thanks to the people that didn’t vote or threw away their vote, we’ll get both.
Translation: “I was perfectly content with genocide abroad but now I actually have to fight fascism whine whine my own medecine taste so bad”
Sooner or later they’ll break in a house with someone similar to them that will welcome them with a semi automatic…
Gatling guns are legal. Look into it.
Oh I really want to see them go busting into a home of a 2A gun nut hillbilly. I don’t say this often, but I’d root for the hillbilly.
It shouldn’t be important, but do we know their race? I read the article, but I may have missed it. I am assuming they are Hispanic.
The video states the names are pseudonymous. So the answer would be, no.
I’m guessing from the accent in her interview, yes. But the victims are anonymous.
everyone needs to remember that if/when this is over, anyone who supported this or participated in it needs to be shunned for the rest of their lives.
No. They need to be convicted and held to account.
held to account
in mass graves
I’m on your side. Giver.
shunned? they need to be imprisoned
Which is probably not going to happen. we could have a government of just democrats and they wouldn’t convict these people.
No, they need to be made examples of. There need to be mass Nuremberg trials, no Nazis left alone, no scientists spared, no business deals.
No mercy.
Imprisoned? They need to bee branded.
People who support this shit should be tarred and feathered.
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Why in the hell would one move to a shitty red run welfare state? ICE is the neo Gestapo or NKVD.
