The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.
“I keep asking them, ‘who are you? What are you doing here? What’s happening,’” she said. “And they said, ‘we have a warrant for the house, a search warrant.’”
She said they ordered her and her daughters outside into the rain before they could even put on clothes.
“They wanted me to change in front of all of them, in between all of them,” she said. “My husband has not even seen my daughter in her undergarments—her own dad, because it’s respectful. You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”
Marisa said the names on the search warrant were not hers or anyone in her family.
“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”
She said the agents didn’t care.
“They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she said. “I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything.”
Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”
“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”
Before they left, Marisa said one of the agents made a comment.
“One of them said, ‘I know it was a little rough this morning,’” she said. “It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was a little rough? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow.”
Now, Marisa said they have, quite literally, nothing.
“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.
Marisa said she is left with nothing but questions.
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They were asleep
I’m reminded of Breonna Taylor now. Different circumstances, but the same perpetrators.
steals their life savings
Everything new is a forgotten old, Wallenstein’s turn.
But yeah, more such stories, more rougher reactions.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years
I used to think anti gun people would face reality at some point. Then January 6th happened, and blue conservatives still wanted to disarm the people.
Even after repeatedly demonstrating they or the justice system will never defend us. We are on our own.
And yet, those who want easy access to guns argue its to protect themselves from tyrannical power. They are also not doing that. Perhaps, in part, because the power disparity between military, police, and a civilian gun owner makes personal guns little more than display pieces.
Gun ownership is a hobby. Most of the dialogue around them is theater. Those who enjoy guns own far more than is needed for ‘defense’, because it’s enjoying ownership that they’re actually defending.
Perhaps, in part, because the power disparity between military, police, and a civilian gun owner makes personal guns little more than display pieces.
So it’s better to let it grow more, right?
Gun ownership is a hobby. Most of the dialogue around them is theater. Those who enjoy guns own far more than is needed for ‘defense’, because it’s enjoying ownership that they’re actually defending.
That’s obvious, hard to do a lot of what you don’t enjoy if you can avoid it. Of course it’s theater. Most of the dialogue around karate is theater. It still somewhat prepares one physically for various events.
I wrote a Gemini (small web) client in the last 2 days, of course it’s theater, I don’t have a modus of using Gemini yet, but it was useful. At least I have a client convenient for me personally, I’ve gained some experience (ok, it’s a simple task, but), some self-confidence.
With guns - of course it’s mostly a very cool toy, people also do historical fencing with swords. But they also learn things about military history and something about using small arms. Better than nothing, sniper rifles still have a place in warfare, even if typical “assault rifles” are almost like a bayonet in WWII, still has uses, but very secondary.
Learning is the root of any achievement. Learning is helped by joy. Why should this be different for defense?
Any decent person who did not vote for this needs to absolutely gtfo of red states and assume they’re a no-go zone from here on out. Of course the blue states won’t be safe forever, but there is absolutely no reason to put yourself in danger by going to one of those Nazi shit holes.
The lack of DV resources/the fact that my ex basically created a cult and it’s really hard to navigate a divorce when you’ve been tortured and also still think that he must actually love you means that I am hopelessly shackled to this place. I’ve lived the cruelty of this state so long that I don’t feel like a human being anymore.
I just hope they don’t burn my paintings and books. I want them to stay together. I want my art and thoughts to be recognized because they’ve never been welcome here.
I felt it when Zach killed himself. I didn’t know him close but I did. I felt it even more when Nex was murdered, when it was covered up and everyone just passively accepted the narrative that Alex Jones and /pol/ had been sharing since they were killed because the Stitt appointee said so.
Oklahoma is sick. It’s been sick since it’s inception - the “boomers” that couldn’t even wait to steal their land. The “Little House on the Prairie” family did that even before the boomers. The murders of the Osage - that even today not all the murders are known as murders. It’s a bloodsick land.
I would love to flee to a blue-r area. Somewhere where sharing with my neighbors and participating in community doesn’t feel like supporting racism and misogyny.
But, I have a disabled family member that needs care in their home, so … for now my sense of familial duty keeps me in a very red area.
I sick of the red state garbage. Nearly every “red” state has “blue” cities. Stop blaming entire populations, age groups or other demographics. You’re just falling for the divide and conquer message they want to use against everyone.
Nah, what I actually said was if you’re in a red state and you didn’t vote for this, get the fuck out for your own protection. If you’ll take a second to read, that’s what I said. If you don’t take a second to read, that still remains what I said. I didn’t blame anyone in the state who didn’t vote for this for it, now did I? I said get out. You do you, man.
The vast majority of Americans do not have the means to up and move to a new state.
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Don’t make brash promises you can’t keep, they absolutely have already come to blue states and they were all over blue states during Trump’s last term, too.
I’m in Cali, I want to believe that you’re right, but they’ve been going up and down the central valley black bagging brown people in home Depot parking lots.
Links? I didnt hear about this.
Calmatters has covered it pretty well. There’s been more raids, but this was the first article on it that I could find for you. https://calmatters.org/economy/2025/01/kern-county-immigration-sweep/
A justice recently issued an injunction against them just scooping up brown people first and finding out if they’re here illegally or criminals later, but IIRC they went ahead and ignored that and did another raid.
E: more recent article https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/04/border-patrol-injunction/
FTA:
After the January sweep, the man who led it, Chief Patrol Agent Gregory Bovino, said his agents specifically targeted people with criminal and immigration histories. However, a CalMatters investigation revealed that the Border Patrol had no criminal or immigration history on 77 of the 78 people it arrested.
The court also ordered the Border Patrol to document every stop and provide reports within 60 days. During oral arguments on Monday, the government attorney said doing so would be burdensome to Border Patrol agents. Judge Thurston rebuked the government, saying: “They have to make a report for every arrest, not sure what the burden is.”
According to sworn declarations filed in court by those detained, Border Patrol agents slashed tires, yanked people out of trucks, threw people to the ground, and called farmworkers “Mexican bitches.”
Me and everyone I know has absolutely no means to just up and move to another state and find employment, a place to live that’s affordable, and the moving costs. We can’t afford to flee for safety
Why aren’t ice agents getting popped by now?
Because their fellow nazis will retalliate in force
And then promptly shoot each other in the face.
Mistakes do happen, there’s no need to overreact or blow things out of proportion.
Go to hell you fascist piece of shit.
Is this sarcasm or are you a psychopath?
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You gotta be smart, use obscure language embrace missed messaging.
IANAL, TINLA, but: Don’t publish plans to commit crimes.
If they are standing their ground it might be up for debate.
Exhibit A, Your Honor.
ICE is going to finance itself by stealing any money they can find. It’s Mob rules from the government under Trump.
Genocide abroad <—> Genocide at home
Thanks to the people that didn’t vote or threw away their vote, we’ll get both.
Translation: “I was perfectly content with genocide abroad but now I actually have to fight fascism whine whine my own medecine taste so bad”
Sooner or later they’ll break in a house with someone similar to them that will welcome them with a semi automatic…
Gatling guns are legal. Look into it.
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It shouldn’t be important, but do we know their race? I read the article, but I may have missed it. I am assuming they are Hispanic.
The video states the names are pseudonymous. So the answer would be, no.
I’m guessing from the accent in her interview, yes. But the victims are anonymous.
everyone needs to remember that if/when this is over, anyone who supported this or participated in it needs to be shunned for the rest of their lives.
No. They need to be convicted and held to account.
held to account
in mass graves
I’m on your side. Giver.
shunned? they need to be imprisoned
Which is probably not going to happen. we could have a government of just democrats and they wouldn’t convict these people.
No, they need to be made examples of. There need to be mass Nuremberg trials, no Nazis left alone, no scientists spared, no business deals.
No mercy.
Imprisoned? They need to bee branded.
People who support this shit should be tarred and feathered.
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Why in the hell would one move to a shitty red run welfare state? ICE is the neo Gestapo or NKVD.
I’m sorry but at this point I would be too embarrased to be an American citizen and migrate the F out lmao, a second term Donald Trump? So embarrassing 😭🤦🏻♂️💩💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I am embarrassed to be American. But I’m also too poor to do anything about it
And that’s what the rich want! The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer! It’s the new American way sadly!
If only it were that easy.
That’s kind of an asshole take. As a US citizen, there’s no country that would take me in right now. I’m just not eligible to work in any of the other countries I’ve looked at.
First, I only know English. I know a bit of French because my parents paid for lessons when I was a kid, but I’ve had zero chance to practice after college. Many Americans have no foreign language experience at all.
Second, what skills can a typical American market? If you don’t have any good skills, it’s hard to apply for work visa in another country. You could try applying for asylum, but other countries don’t really see things as bad enough to take in Americans yet.
Third, how long would it take to apply? A year is typical. Again, you could try asylum which may have an initial time allocation to stay until your hearing. But that only works once countries start accepting Americans’ asylum claims.
A lot of people can’t afford to move.
And a lot of people want to stay and fight.
In November I woke up ready to bail. but upon reviewing my options, I determined that nowhere was really better.
There seem to be precious few countries that aren’t flirting with authoritarian parties right now and leaving this one, where I have my social safety net (friends and family, if not government aid) and at least a small amount of power to vote for my values, to go somewhere where I am an immigrant or refugee and lose the power to change policy seemed to be a poor choice. so far. I’m white, straight and middle class, though, so that may be entirely different math for other people.
I’m choosing to stay and fight.
What country are you in, and what have you done to make it easier for people to claim asylum there?
Civil Asset Forfeiture. It’s legal in most states, but some are better than others. Oklahoma is dog shit:
https://ij.org/report/policing-for-profit-3/?state=OK
Seriously people, don’t move to Oklahoma, or really most southern states.
Do not move anywhere in the US, just move out.
I don’t want weak cowards anywhere in my nation, so yeah, you can leave buddy, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way If you are even in this country, I have a feeling you are not.
Weak coward for MAGAts, common sense for everyone else.
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At least you won’t get shot or tried (looking at you NK). It is not easy, but not impossible, and there is a tipping point, which is different for everyone as people have different values and scales.
For someone, paying 10$ an egg is survivable as long as their family is close.
As an euro I would be in favor of granting asylum for my American brothers and sisters.
Provided they didn’t vote for a genocider that is ahah
That’s my biggest issue with taking in americans. This isn’t something new, it just wasn’t done so overtly before. The people fleeing it may not agree with what is happening now, but they carry the fundamental issue with them. This is a problem with what america was built on, the freedom to not give half a shit about anyone else, and while a lot of people aren’t like that, and very well may integrate well into european cultures, a lot of other people want to get out because this time it wasn’t in their favour, and learn absolutely fuck all from it.
I think you’re conflating the people who voted for this with the ones who are vehemently against it.
I don’t think you’re getting that they are saying Americans have a stain on their soul whether they are democrat or republican and that shit don’t wash off, I believe it, I’ve traveled the world, I’ve seen what people are and how they act…. an American is not one of them
I promise you I’m not. But if the last 20 years have taught me anything, it’s that americans repeatedly fail to see their errors, until it specifically hurts themselves.
A lot of people who either voted for Trump, or didn’t really care about Trump are going to feel the impact of him. This isn’t just about Trump voters though. The democratic party is part of the same oppressive system that loves oligarchs, as long as they get paid by them. Instead of looking within and realising they were wrong, and that the system in the USA is broken throughout, they’re going to chalk it up to “well, that was unfortunate”, and learn absolutely fuckall from it, and vote for the next fascist bastard again next opportunity.
If they move to Europe, their values won’t have changed. They won’t have learned a thing, and they will continue to support that system, and vote for it when they get the permission to do so.
I’m not saying all americans are like this. No country is ever made up entirely of idiots, but the amount that would actually support the systems in place in Europe is a very small minority.
I’m just kidding to be honest of course we should give asylum
Does not apply to DHS agents.
If you think that’ll stop them, I have a bridge to sell you. In case you hadn’t noticed, the law doesn’t mean anything any more to the people in power.
You mentioned southern states, but I just checked a few other states, because I was thinking maybe they’re blue, liberal, and it may be better:
HI: D- IL: D- MA: F WA: D-
Oops!!!
For comparison: OK: D- TX: D+
TX scored the highest out of these states. We’re fucked!
Yeah unfortunately it’s no guarantee that blue states are better. Many are, but not all. Colorado, California, and New York all score a ‘C’, still not great but much better.
Police in Oklahoma kicked me out of my house at my ex’s request. No police report, no idea why.
