How do you climb a MacBook?
Command + Climb. Be careful, AppleCare doesn’t cover vertical ascents.
What about rapid unplanned vertical descent?
If that scares you, do not look up Alex Honnold freeclimbing yosemite several times now. And he’s taken some gnarly routes.
One does not simply free solo El Capitan.
I understand, hey go climb a big rock. cool.
i don’t understand doing it without a basic life line attached to you to …ya know, prevent … rapid inertia.
Is the rope hanging off him not a life line?
Honestly, I’m not sure. I actually didn’t even notice it until you said something. It blends in very well. Looks like it only goes below him but I don’t see an anchor point and you really don’t want them too far apart. The more distance between them, then more force it’s got to hold if you fall.
I’m not sure what else you’d use a rope for here. Just saying it’s also weird to not see an anchor point since it looks looks to be over 10ft of rope we can see.
There’s an anchor right below his feet but it’s hard to make out in this copy of the photo because of the lack of pixels.
Either way I still think he’s crazy, I couldn’t get 10 feet off the ground without having a panic attack.
Multi story buildings must be your kryptonite.
This is a normal human reaction.
But then you do it a few times and you get used to it.
He’s barely above the last bolt in the picture. There’s a quickdraw sticking out by his lower heel.
Also the forces involved in a climbing fall are partly mitigated by the stretch of the rope, and the belayer will soften the catch by jumping as the climber falls. The length of a fall has little impact on the forces experienced by the climber or the gear in a typical climbing fall.
I’m not sure what else you’d use a rope for here.
My guess is it’s a tow line for something. Notice how the rope is taught (would not be the case if it were an anchor, he’d have to ditch the anchor and use a new one if that were the case)
Though again it would be weird to have whatever you’re “towing” that far below you, considering the longer the rope, the stronger the pendulum when wind starts to blow your gear around…
Look up thread. Better pic posted shows it is clearly his lead line, and he has a bolt at his feet. The rope looks tight because it has friction from running through the pieces below, and because the rope has weight of its own pulling it down.
According to the article it was free solo.
Unwavering
The article is wrong. You can clearly see Adams lead line in the picture in the article.
Adam on The Dawn Wall was super impressive - iirc, he sent the route in a single ground-up push or something like that, when it took Tommy, like, 8 years to establish the route. But he def didn’t solo it.
Source: rock climber for 10 years, going to climb in The Valley later this week.
This is wrong, he free climbed the dawn wall but definitely did not free solo it. Every photo from that article shows him climbing with ropes and google more into it he definitely didn’t free solo that face of El Cap.
I see no rope.Better picture given in another post shows a fall rope plain as day.
Yellow line from his butt.
I’d also have a yellow line coming from my butt in this scenario.
Someone else posted a better pic, definitely looks like a fall rope tied to something. The OP Pic is potatoes and you can only discern a line that could be natural crack.
Has no sweat glands on his hands
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Accomplishing difficult challenges & goals feels rewarding, pretty sure it’s mostly dopamine and some adrenaline
A what point does it change from unique hobby to death wish?
When the likelihood of death is knowingly greater than the safety precautions taken to avoid death.
A what point does it change from unique hobby to death wish?
100% when you remove the safety gear.
The mountain, you see, is in nature; and Nature doesn’t give a fuck about your inability to fly once you pop off that flake.
https://brainasap.com/adrenaline-addiction-rock-climbers-thrill-seeking-behavior/
I’m all for letting people have the hobbies they want, but adrenaline junkies are literally wired differently. Kind of weird that they get put on a pedestal for being the “right” kind of neurodivergent.
I don’t think any of the climbers I know would call it an adrenaline sport. It’s slow, considered, thoughtful. It certainly gets a high sometimes, pun intended, but it’s much more akin to a runners high or the elation of finishing a difficult task well.
As a pretty serious rock climber, I would say it definitely is an adrenaline sport. But the adrenaline is just part of it. You also get the sort of runners high from sustained exercise, and another sort of high of “holy shit, I can’t believe I just pulled it off” from dealing with challenges in real time and finding solutions.
In comparison, I tried sky diving once and found it, in a weird way, boring. Sure, you get an adrenaline rush - but there is no real physical or mental challenge. You just jump, deploy the chute, and land. When we landed, my heart was definitely pounding, but in a strangely unsatisfying way. I didn’t feel like I had really pushed myself or accomplished anything - I was just up there, and now I’m down here. Big whoop.
Halfway through reading this I realized I’m addicted to mountain biking lmao
Skiing here, I’d jump off some stupid stuff if I could afford to get there.
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When you stop caring about safety.
When they go from this to free solo. Especially on such a hard route.
It’s hard to see from the shrunken picture, but he has a rope to catch him if he falls. The likelihood of an injury is very low.
Rope or not this is terrifying! It’s a no from me
I watched a video about a person with a rare condition that makes him not have a fear response and now, everytime I see people doing stupid shit like this, I think “bet it’s not so fucking rare”
Don’t be do quick to judge: He’s secured by a rope that passes through a series of bolts that are drilled into solid granite. You could lift a car with the gear he’s using to secure himself.
You’re less in control of your fate when passing someone on the highway than he is here. The only way he dies in this situation is first slipping off (first layer of protection is your hands and feet), and then having several layers of ridiculously redundant protection fail.
Belaying a lead climber is much less straightforward than belaying a top roper, so that’s all true assuming he has an excellent belayer, which I’m sure Adam does. That being said mistakes still happen; just look at Sara Al Qunaibet’s recentish fall. Alex Honnold was also dropped by his (at the time) girlfriend and suffered injury. He was lucky to be on the first pitch of a multi pitch climb at the time.
It’s absolutely true that human error can occur, and it does happen sometimes. Of course, nobody is doing big-wall climbing with a grigri (although in Sara Al Qunaibets case there was even a grigri that the coach was able to misuse…). I still feel safer taking a fall with a belayer I trust than I do driving behind some stranger that’s driving erratically. The most dangerous part of any climb on pre-bolted route is likely the drive to the crag.
Of course, nobody is doing big-wall climbing with a grigri
What are you talking about? Pretty much everyone on big walls is carrying a gri. In addition to giving lead belays, they are more pleasant to use for top down belays, and can be useful for hauling, juggin, lowering out, rappelling, or any number of other big wall chores. Yes, they are relatively heavy, but so is the number six you are lugging up the face so you can place it once on the scary offwidth pitch.
Ok, sounds like this is my inexperience showing: I’ve only ever been on multi-pitches where we used half-ropes, so we we use what’s called a “hylsebrems” in Norwegian (the standard friction break with two holes). Regarding hauling equipment, that’s not very common here, we climb with a backpack if we need one. I’ve heard that hauling equipment is much more common in the US though.
It sounds like you are doing alpine multipitches, which are a different discipline from big walls.
Yeah, I guess that sounds like a better description, I’ve never really considered that there’s a significant difference between the two. Happy to learn :)
Totally agree. Feeding through a Grigri in order to lead belay necessitates disabling the autolockimg behavior of the device and creates an opportunity for a fall to the ground if the climber loses it unexpectedly. Belaying with an ATC still isn’t a replacement for vigilance, though. Catching a lead fall with minimal fall distance requires a combination of constant attention, deep understanding of the route, its cruxes, and your climber, anticipation of the fall based on your observation of the climber, and bulletproof mechanical memory of the process. Even still, runout is a thing on many routes. I would add on to your statement; the most dangerous part may be the drive to the crag (or perhaps, a scramble approach) but the second most dangerous part may well be the climb to the first draw.
Lol, wtf. Giving a non-lethal lead belay is not that intense. Literally all you have to do is keep your hand on the brake strand. To give a good belay, you need to pay a lot of attention to your climber so you don’t short rope them and can give them buttery soft catches. But making sure your climber doesn’t die consists entirely of “don’t let go of the brake strand” - and that’s pretty much it.
Yes, there are other things to do. Yes, you should always strive to be an excellent belayer. But pretty much everything you need to know and learn can be taught in a single day at the crag by a reasonably competent instructor. And after that, the main thing is to just not get complacent and do stupid shit.
I agree with you on the by and large, but wouldn’t describe belaying a lead climber as quite as demanding as you do (by all means, be vigilant at all times, someone’s life is in your hands!). You can feed out rope from a grigri without putting a thumb in the mechanism, but it’s a bit more of a hassle, and requires a bit more getting used to. I’m pretty much always belayed by my SO (who’s a much better belayer than me, and doesn’t disable the grigri when feeding) and get stressed out if someone else is belaying me and I notice that they’re disabling the grigri while feeding rope.
It’s definitely true that by far most injuries in climbing occur on the first 1-3 bolts, when it’s still possible to hit the ground if you have too much slack or a bit run out bolts. Long run outs higher up can feel sketchy, but even a >5m fall high in the wall isn’t really dangerous unless there are outcroppings or other stuff you can hit. Ankles might still take a beating though…
I though this was the “Mildly terrifying” forum for a sec.
Ooh, energy of the gods, adrenaline surge
Won’t stop 'til I hit the ground, I’m on my way for sure
Up here in the air, this will never hurt
I’m on my way to impact, taste the high-speed dirt
Great pic.
Fuck that.
These freesolo guys are crazy impressive.
Is he wearing jeans?
Is that not a rope right under his butt?
Yeah, it’s there, just hard to see
Yep I missed that.
Here is a much better article written by a legitimate climbing publication that actually knows anything at all about climbing:
https://gripped.com/news/adam-ondra-makes-second-free-ascent-of-dawn-wall-in-yosemite/
The article says that he was the first person to free solo the Dawn Wall, which is false. He wasn’t the first to climb it, and he didn’t free solo it either.
Tommy Caldwell was the first person to climb it, and nobody has free soloed it, and the likelihood of anyone ever doing that is basically zero.
Does anyone know of any active climbing community on Lemmy?
Not very active, but !climbing@lemmy.ml sees some posts every now and then. Only way to make it more active is to join :)
Aww, it’s on *.ml
