• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Centrist democrats are already warming to him. Then again, they have been waiting for this moment ever since he performed his nazi salute.

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          You’re misreading the article if you think it shows Democrats are “warming” to Elon Musk. No one quoted in the piece says they like him, trust him, or think he’s a decent person. In fact, what it shows is the exact opposite: many Democrats are still deeply skeptical of him and consider his behavior and politics dangerous. What’s happening here isn’t about admiration or trust—it’s about strategy and necessity. They’re engaging with him not because they want to, but because they feel they have to, given his immense influence over major technologies like EVs, space infrastructure, and social media.

          Take Rep. Robert Garcia, for example. He doesn’t praise Musk or suggest he’s come around to liking him. He says, “Musk has clearly gone down a right-wing rabbit hole,” and openly criticizes his platforming of extremists. The article quotes him as seeing Musk as someone who “lets people say hateful, violent, racist things.” That doesn’t sound like someone warming to him—that’s someone holding their nose while trying to work with him for practical reasons.

          The same goes for the White House. Yes, they’ve met with Musk and engaged him in policy discussions, but that’s because he controls major assets that intersect with government priorities: EV manufacturing, satellite internet, space tech. Musk is essentially a utility at this point—a problematic one, but one that’s too entangled with federal initiatives to ignore. It’s not about warming up to him. It’s about needing him to cooperate because of the role he’s carved out for himself, not because anyone thinks he’s a good actor.

          This is politics, not personal affection. Democrats engaging with Musk doesn’t mean they like him—it means they’re being realistic. They’re dealing with a man they see as dangerous and ideologically aligned with Trump, but who unfortunately holds keys to several important doors. The article reflects that tension. If anything, it paints a picture of wariness and pragmatism, not warmth.

          Whippersnapper.

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      Makes sense considering Cory Booker did the same Nazi salute and he is a centrist democrat

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        Got a video of that, buddy, where he hits his chest and then goes to a straight arm with no wave, twice?

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          https://x.com/greenbergnation/status/1928917909088211440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1928917909088211440%7Ctwgr%5E90d752f4e65d34dca49e7a491ddada96bb105838%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2025%2F06%2F01%2Fus-news%2Fnew-jerey-sen-cory-booker-roasted-for-nazi-salute-at-california-democratic-convention%2F

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            🤣 you could just say you didn’t have the video of him striking his chest and doing it perfectly straight arm twice in a row.

            Thanks for this, I needed a laugh

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              So funny you fall so easily for propaganda… actually it’s kind of sad

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                It looks like you’re trying to write in your diary, but you accidentally wrote this here in public. Whoopsie!

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        Having an expensive vehicle doesn’t mean you can afford it. You can probably make the payments, but you can only really afford the vehicle if you’re keeping up with other financial goals.

        My coworker has two luxury cars, and he’s in debt up to his eyeballs. He makes the same as me, his SO also works (mine doesn’t), and he’s always complaining about not having enough money, while we’re doing just fine.

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      The are no liberal billionaires and very few liberal millionaires

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    Generational wealth leads to people who are both extremely rich and extremely stupid.

    And Elon Musk is the best example of that in the history of mankind.

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    Reminds me of that show Billions where the dude seemed on the verge of losing it all, but it was actually a ploy to short some stock or some shit like that. Was a great show with a complete asshole of a protagonist.

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      For now, he does have that yes, but his wealth is for a significant portion a house of cards built on the value of tesla stock. If the value of that stock falls far enough, lenders who gave him loans with tesla stock as collateral could margin call him, essentially asking for more collateral. That could make him the poorest person in the world quite quickly, i.e. billions in debt.

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        While you’re absolutely correct, even if Musk lost 99.7% percent of his wealth he would still be a billionaire (depending on whose net worth number you choose to use). I wouldn’t hold out seeing him in a bread line or starting a gofundme.

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          The real question is whether the collapse of his house of cards will lead to a 99.7% loss of wealth or >100% loss. He won’t be a billionaire anymore if it’s the latter.

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            He could declare bankruptcy and be a billionaire again tomorrow.

            And I don’t say this out of any kind of admiration for him; just there’s still enough moneyed rubes out there that he could set up a new company making plumbuses and it would hit unicorn status by the end of the day.

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            Yeah, he probably will. I know I’d be surprised if he didn’t have money squirreled away somewhere.

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              I’d also be surprised if no one goes after him for trying to run away from debts. If we know anything, it’s that most laws only apply when they benefit the rich, and he’ll be making a lot of rich people angry if it turns out he did have extra money squirreled away.

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      Are you serious? He wants people to think he’s cool SO bad it’s genuinely so pathetic lol. All the other billionaires you could say that. But Elon is so desperate for people to think he’s this funny cool based guy it’s hilarious

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        That is partly true, but also he’s a strong narcissist. They make up their own stories. They’ll play up the feud to take eyes off of other bad shit.

        Don’t think for a second he lost or he’s gone or it’s all over for him. He doesn’t see it that way.

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      Look I don’t like Musk either but even starting off wealthy becoming the richest man in the world takes some doing. He was way ahead of the curve on reusable rockets and EVs and succeed there where a bunch of people failed. I think where he fails is when it comes to protecting his image and maintaining relationships. He’s a thin-skinned narcissist who thinks he’s humanity’s savoir and eventually that got to him.

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        I guess Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning were just hapless chaps stumbling around in the dark, until Elon lighted their way with his genius vision of how to build an EV. /s

        So much so I had to google their names because even I can’t remember them.

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      Its a human blind spot. A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence. In lower socio-economic levels, succeeding involves a lot of intelligence. Its a fucking struggle. Lots of fish trying to eat each other and take what little resources we have. One fuck up and it’s all over. So anyone that is succeeding is also someone that with enough intelligence to foresee pitfalls and avoid them or escape with their wealth.

      Those values are used to evaluate the people at the top which are swimming in a whole different pond. The neopotism and safety nets built into the upper crust of society is not part of the calculation that a lot of people use to factor into how they see these people. They still apply the same dog eat dog mentality to the upper crust of society.

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        A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence.

        Smart people who make good products that people want will have the invisible hand distribute them wealth. Dumb people who make bad products that no one wants will go backrupt. This is the core philosophy behind why capitalism “works.” It is a system that conflates wealth with virtue, by design.

        You’re right to point out that it is incorrect logic, but no one is confusing anything. The entirety of our Western world is build around this idea and reinforces it to its people at every single opportunity. They’re making the judgements that they have been told are correct. Can we really say people are confused when they’re confidently acting exactly as they’ve been taught from birth?

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        honestly wealth at any level requires luck… intelligence barely factors into it. it’s less that 1 fuck up and it’s all over, and more that 1 fuck up without someone to cover it up or bail you out and it’s all over… the wealthier you are, the bigger the fuck up before you or someone else can bail you out:

        poor? it’s an unexpected car issue

        rich? it’s that you fucked over literally an entire country for years on end in a very public way that gained you very little

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    The thing is, this turd burgler could lose millions a day for the rest of his life and still retire more well-off than just about anybody. When’s the last time a truly filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?

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      If his wealth were a US treasury bond, he’d have to spend at least $50,000,000 every DAY in order to not still keep getting richer.

      Take a moment to think about how difficult it is to spend $50,000,000. If I gave you 24 hours to do it using Brewster’s Millions rules, you’d struggle.

      There is no good reason for billionaires to exist.

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      filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?

      there’s not much that i like about the american healthcare system but the idea of fElon eventually ending up bankrupt because of that fucking black eye really had me thinking “maybe there’s something to this”

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      The main issue is that he is a drug addict. It completely fucked his brain.

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          Most drug users are people self medicating to cope with serious trauma. Most autistic people are decent human beings.

          Elon Musk is a shit human being and a Nazi. It’s not about his autism or drug use. When I get fucked up - I don’t turn into a fucking Nazi.

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    5d chess or not, hear me out.

    He may be autistic enough to burn it all down from the inside.

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      why are we still using autistic as an insult in 2025?

      he may be moronic enough to burn it all down from the inside, but autism doesn’t have shit to do with it. I’m tired of people trying to use autism as an get out of jail free card for utter stupidity. autism has very little to do with intelligence levels, and even if it does, it’s the other way around according to most studies.

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        Why??

        Cause it’s not so much an insult as a funny stereotype. And there’s partial truth to it. Autistic people sit outside cultural norms. I don’t find anything about that insulting. Especially in a world where the culture has become so toxic. Having a billionaire who is potentially taking Roy of the grid is a huge fantasy of mine and it’s potentially happening. Only an autistic person is able to do this. No one else can.

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      It’s not fucking autism it’s the fact he’s a perpetually kholed dickhead