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    “Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel,” a spokesperson said.

    Coming soon:

    “Day 3650, we’ll transfer you to an appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel soon, prisoner.”

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      They can’t perform arrests. They can only temporarily detain them with zip ties and transfer them by van to the police station.

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          Depending on the state, you may detain someone in the process of a crime until law enforcement can take them. I know in Texas, civilian arrest powers are very similar to police.

          Being active military throws a huge wrench in this, however, as well as being ordered to a place and deployed with the purpose of policing. You can’t just throw up a “this is federal property” defense, because this is also a public building.

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      I’m sure someday there will be consequences for all these heinous crimes. Might even be the same day my flying unicorn crashes into a supermodel and we go out to lunch and figure out cold fusion together on the back of a napkin.

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      orange leader

      Ah hem, refer to him with the respect the office deserves.

      It’s Mustard Mussolini to you peasant.

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      This is what the NRA have been waiting for, is it not? Let’s just watch them leap into action to safeguard constitutional rights against an oppressive regime.

      Any minute now.

      Any minute now.

      Here they come! Oh, sorry it’s a pigeon.

      It must be soon.

      Hmm…

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    What would happen if someone were to detain a group of marines (with the minimal force necessary), in the wrong assumption - honest mistake - that they were about to execute illegal orders?

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      You ever come across the hornet’s nest that you need to clear, where they can sting you multiple times and aren’t really afraid all that much of dying.

      Unless they’re willing this is probably notably worse

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      They’re trained and equipped in a way that you are not. I do not expect this to succeed unless you’ve already convinced them that they want to surrender.

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        While they have the physical ability to resist, they don’t have the legal right. They are subject to the same laws as anyone in the US.

        In fact, they might be commanded to stand down and accept it, because the legal implications of acting like an occupying force would have long term, very bad effects for the existence of the marines.

        While that might sound far fetched, the marine corps is smart, and would allow a few soldiers to face some humiliation and risk the government that funds them thinking “what if that was my kids?”

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          They’re deployed in the hope of producing a massacre that can be blamed on the victims. I do not recommend counting on their leadership ordering a surrender

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      I read the article. He crossed a yellow taped off area of the building perimeter.

      He was a vet headed into the building for some reason and the marines stopped him, detained, turned over, and he was then released.

      The guy didn’t seem to phased by it. Overall I’d give it a 5/7.

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    So … the US Army is now an occupying force, and the Second Amendment crowd will activate to save us?

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      Everybody in the US is technically a 2nd amendment person. what are you waiting for?

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      OK. This needs to be said. Not every 2A adherant is a magat or a republican. There are many of us actual leftists that are armed and getting ready to actually fight this shit. The NRA != every armed American, and the time for leftists failing to be armed is long gone. Dems have been fighting against an actual armed left for decades because they love their capitalism. It is time to mobilize for real.

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        That was yesterday. Today they’re assassinating them in their homes. I’m worried about tomorrow.

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      I can’t stop thinking of the contrast between charged-up Americans willing to fight, kill, and die in a shitty battlefield for our freedoms but when our freedoms are being destroyed as the main attraction these guys are nowhere.

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      Troops who invade our country and do violence to our people are our enemy, no matter what flag they fly or uniform they wear. Fuck these scum.

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    Reuters images showed Marines apprehending a civilian, restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security.

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military’s Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces “may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances.”

    “Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel,” a spokesperson said.

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      That was my first thought. Where are all the self-described Libertarians who should be losing their shit over this? They should be in the street screaming “posse comitatus!” at the tops of their lungs.

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    So it begins! Buy the ticket, take the ride! This is what you get for electing rump