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There will be a solution for the adblocking side, there always is
Jokes on you, I already watch them at 0.5x speed
Oh they already do as of this week. But I am sure it‘s only temporary like last time and even then it‘s better than being served an ad. Google won‘t win this feud.
They’ve already tried this.
We’ve already sidestepped it.
It’s just going to keep on going like this till a viable alternative shows up.
How? I’ve been noticing buffering the last few days with 1080p60 videos and up even using the suggested app version in Revanced.
Seems like its already happening.
Yeah, for at least 6 months.
Now you’ll actually get a pop-up claiming “click here to find out why” in regards to the slowness.
I’ve gotten that before too
They’ve been doing this for close to 20 years. Ever since shortly after google bought them.
You know the people who created youtube are all part of the same OG corp/group that gave rise to the monsters who have created the hell we currently live in.
The PayPal mafia.
Thiel, musk, howry, Chen(yt), wong(reddit),Hoffman(LinkedIn)
Only thing I’m getring at the moment is waiting up to like 30s until the video starts, I’il take that over an ad that long any day.
A previous version of uBlock Origin (1.64.1b4) seems to work perfectly on Firefox, just in case.
YouTube might bite me
That’s great! I spend too much time on yt, it’ll break me of my addiction and I’ll do something else besides passive consumption.
Nebula’s getting better and I spend more time there now than on YouTube. Happy that YouTube is working hard to encourage this transition.
I’ll never go there. Paid is a no way situation.
It’s not for everyone, but I think it’s reasonable to pay for a platform that pays its content creators fairly. I spend a lot of things watching videos, and even though my income is limited, some kind of payment for the service makes sense.
I don’t mind blocking ads on YouTube because they used unfair practices (endless resources from Google) to destroy the competition and become the only video provider. They put us in a corner and deserve to be put in one too.
I think I should be more clear: I agree that it is reasonable to pay a platform that is fair.
The comparison to youtube is where it gets lost for me:
The issue is that, in general, the value of watching what is typically on youtube is about the level of free. If it cost me money, I could do without, it just isn’t that important. I will find better ways to spend my time. So with Nebula, you have a platform that is more like just another streaming service, albeit a good one for independent creators. But that leaves me thinking what do they have that I would bother watching? Which is a pretty high bar (I didnt even own a tv for nearly 20 years). It seems less like youtube and more like HBO for independents on paper, and without free access how would I know the difference?
I mean that’s fair : value is relative.
The main value of Nebula is no ads. I have YouTube on Firefox with uBlock Origin, so no ads either, but shitty performance due to YouTube fighting the AdBlocker. But more importantly I don’t think the ability to watch YouTube with no ads is a given, so I want to have a viable alternative.
And secondly, I want to support the creators and a platform that sees me as a customer, not as a data-cow to be milked.
I’m sure Nebula will eventually have a free tier, but that can incur high costs and degrade the experience for paying users. They’ll do it when they feel comfortable.
“I want endless curated content for FREE! NO ADS. NO PAY. ONLY CONTENT.”
This guy, probably.
Probably also thinks the minimum wage is theft.
Uh, it’s called a “library”.
you think libraries are free?
most public libraries and librarians spend a great deal of their time applying for grants, asking for donations, and parsing out the meager state and federal funds they receive. You can tell that a lot goes on in a public library besides what patrons see!
Did you know that staff salaries, books, other library materials, office supplies, and utilities are funded primarily by city and county taxes? (link)
Taking this chance to say support your local libraries! Even just being a patron will show that it’s a necessary resource that needs to continue. My partner and I just were talking about the library today and how we both used to go at least once a week back in the day but we’ve fallen off in the past decade.
Libraries are paid for with taxes.
Why be an asshole? Yes I like free I also make things for free. Not everything has to cost.
For ongoing series I like I support directly, like anyone else. Not the platform.
But to charge up front for who knows what? Nope.
so you’d pay if there was a free trial?
That would be an improvement, how would I know I want anything in a store I have to pay before I even consume anything?
I have several subscriptions ditectly to people making things I like.
On the otherhand, I miss when people made things because they liked to. I still do that. I run several sites that has no ads, no charge, because I like the communities I am sharing with.
Then again, it’s not my job so I am afforded that luxury I guess.
It also might be worth saying that watching people do things is not my favorite thing. I would rather actually do things.
You clearly have absolutely no idea what infrastructure costs to run.
Lol, OK.
Thanks for proving my point.
Sure anytime.
So you prefer ad supported content?
Nope.
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There’s a ton of content that’s much longer. There’s no 8-minute limitation.
Philosophy tube and jet lagged are both longer than 8 minutes, I think nilered is on there as well and is definitely longer than 8 minutes.
Reminder, Newgrounds is still here.
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What options? Where can I find stuff about fixing my motorcycle? Oceanliners? Deep Space documentaries? Fixing dieselinjectors in my car etc?
There exists a massive, global network of websites that are all easily searchable through various means.
I look up and view similar topics to you and never use YouTube for them.
Try searching the internet as a whole!
Reddit and Discord killed that, sorry, the Internet you’re referring to is dying and almost dead.
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I tried using the Daily Motion Chromecast app the other day, until it served up an hour-long lecture as an advert with no “skip” button.
I forgot about dm. I used to watch dm way more than yt back in the day. Thanks for the reminder!
Most of those things are better without videos anyways. So much wasted time to get to the point.
As for documentaries… Are good ones actually on YouTube?
Don’t care, still better than the ads.
I’ll sit for 2 minutes in front of a black screen and it’ll still be better than 45 seconds of ads.
Did exactly that early days of hulu.
Same. That ole “You seem to be using a proxy service” text served as a nice break 🙌
Not only that but the bit-rate as of late seems horrendous, 1080 looks more like 720 or lower with artifacts all over the place.
Artificial scarcity so you’ll pay their dumb subscription fee
Yes, some video have a 1080p Premium high nitrate quality option that you need to pay for. It’s just the standard quality, but the free 1080p is now shitty.
It’s very sad there isn’t anything that can even remotely compare to YouTube at this time. All the content is there, can’t get it elsewhere. At least with Firefox, ublock and SponsorBlock, it’s bearable.
Oh, did you not pay for YouTube Extra Premium Plus for the enhanced bit rate?
Bloody peasant…
And really you’re just paying extra for the original 1080 bitrate. What a fucking scam, like I’d pay for that crap.
