Mike German, an ex-FBI agent, said immigration agents hiding their identities ‘highlights the illegitimacy of actions’
Some wear balaclavas. Some wear neck gators, sunglasses and hats. Some wear masks and casual clothes.
Across the country, armed federal immigration officers have increasingly hidden their identities while carrying out immigration raids, arresting protesters and roughing up prominent Democratic critics.
It’s a trend that has sparked alarm among civil rights and law enforcement experts alike.
Mike German, a former FBI agent, said officers’ widespread use of masks was unprecedented in US law enforcement and a sign of a rapidly eroding democracy. “Masking symbolizes the drift of law enforcement away from democratic controls,” he said.
Now serial killers and pedophiles can larp and kidnap children and adults too.
All Thanks to ICE!
DONAKD J TRUMP
“Okay, girlie. No sudden moves or I’m putting one in your gut. If you scream, my cop buddies around the corner will be all over you.”
“But I’m being nice. If you stay quiet and come with me, I’ll smooth things over with the force. We won’t have to break all of your bones before letting you go.”
“Now get over here. I’m going to take you somewhere special. You’ll love it.”
Awwww…nobody ever loves ME enough to want to kidnap…
IKR. I always knew that I was unattractive, since I went to a catholic boys school and no one molested me…
I’ll kidnap you. I’ll even throw in mailing a severed finger to someone for free.
Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gun powder treason and plot. I see no reason the gun powder treason should ever be forgot.
If you have to cover up your entire face like this it should be a huge hint that what you’re doing is fucked up
It’s illegal and they know it. This is a vain attempt to avoid punishment once Biff is not in power anymore.
At this point, my first reaction to seeing anyone in law enforcement at any level is they are a criminal thugs that cannot be trusted, should be undermined at every opportunity, insulted relentlessly, and if necessary, worse. I know there are some good cops, and not everything they do is bad, but goddamn they do they suck in general.
Would you think the same in another country? In Canada? Or in The Netherlands?
I don’t have experience with either of those places but when I was in Rome, Italy it was plainly obvious that the 5 or 6 different kinds of cops, none of whom were helping people, are useless thugs and goons just like the Americans.
But was there a situation where they were needed? Or were they standing doing nothing because there was nothing?
I have known multiple firefighters which were happy most of the time to get the support from the cops to handle the situation.
The cops I have seen were always doing something even if it were just patrolling. You can call that useless, but at least they are outside and can be called.
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Works the other way too.
If I take 100 Gallons of clean water and dump a gallon of sewage into it, would you pour yourself a glass?
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The challenge today is that their legal job may now require them to do things that are constitutionally questionable and ethically repugnant. So even if they’re good people and upstanding citizens, they may be required to, at any point in their day, to choose between doing the right thing and losing their job.
They only have to choose wrong once to no longer be the “good cop”.
Now, because of the way policing works in the US, it may be possible to have an intrinsically good police department. At least until a state or federal agency rolls into town and demands they do something they wouldn’t otherwise do; then they become complicit.
After all… in any other organized gang, there can be good people, but they’re still going to be found guilty of gang activity due to supporting the others.
Didn’t help Christopher Dorner either.
Lemmy.world fully endorses the.police state and looks forward to more death, deportations, and white supremacist policy.
You support it, but most of us do not. I certainly do not
Fascism isn’t some nebulous concept on the horizon. Or maybe hiding around the next blind corner.
It is literally here. Now. Right now.
Wake up call. America has secret police (gestapo) now.
Yes, what to do about it?
general strike
My advice is, anybody who can leave the Untied States should
I’m going to write my senators and hold up a sign, with a polite yet firm wording, in a very peaceful protest
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I see 2 options here:
Getting kidnapped and imprisoned now (whether that’s by ‘real’ police or fake)
Or.
Shooting the mask wearing weirdos now and maybe potentially possibly getting imprisoned later.Out of these two choices I know which I’d take.
Yup.
I’ll shoot a masked individual trying to abduct me in the face, then deal with the repercussions after I potentially saved myself from being human trafficked or having my organs harvested.
It’d be ashamed if they were to get bear sprayed on their masks and had to remove them.
Nah bro, aerosolized coyote piss. Get that up in their mask. Or just a super soaker full of it.
Don’t ask me how you get the piss, just know it works.
You can get it from hunting supply places in bottles. Sometimes people also buy coyote pee for putting around their gardens to spook off the deer.
Land of the Brave
Puts on mask to hide identity
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bunch of pussy. Too afraid to show their faces.
In fact, if I ask for identification and they dont provide, I’ll call them: Mr. Pussy #1, Mr. Pussy #2…etc.
Reminds me of Squid Game
A major reason police officers wear uniforms is for their obvious identification as a legal law enforcement entity formally trained and endorsed by the state. While it’s generally symbolic, it is at least a basic-ass demonstration of good faith identification/adherence to the law. EVEN IF it’s just performative, it’s still at least saying their actions will be in accordance with the law, and at least implying that their intent is enforcement of that same law.
However, if they not only ditch the uniform, but even literally wear things to mask their identity, the symbolism of good-faith action and intent go out the window. Why would any reasonable person trust such a blatant disregard for clear establishment of authority figures? Furthermore, if such symbolism is reversed in such a manner, how could any reasonable person not assume ill-intent? If they’re taking away even US citizens for an indeterminate amount of time and to an indeterminate place, then wouldn’t it be in the best interest of the people that encounter law enforcement to resist by any means–even lethal means? And to further compound the problem, there were recent high-profile political murders by someone impersonating a police officer. So not only are we unable to trust legitimate police officers while they’re in uniform, we now have(admittedly weak(for now)) evidence that the uniform no longer implies good-faith intent of the person wearing it. Which leads me to one final major issue; if our confidence in officers’ law-bound behavior is shattered, and our confidence in our citizen status to ensure our rights is shattered, and our confidence in police uniforms being fairly reliable identification symbolism is shattered, then what amount of confidence is left in any law enforcement officials when they then wear clothing that is symbolically indicative of someone acting in bad faith with ill-intent? And then local law enforcement, in uniform, protect and assist alleged federal law enforcement in their very high-profile raids.
So, moral reasoning aside, it would be unwise to even engage with any law enforcement or anyone that claims to be law enforcement. They can’t be trusted and their intent is unknown. They are visibly armed with a variety of weapons and are currently engaging in illegal operations systematically–even though the confines of current law effectively gives them legal means to do whatever they want. All that said, it can reasonably argued that it’s effectively a death sentence if you get swept up by someone claiming to be law enforcement, regardless of whether or not they can be confidently identified as such. All that to say: some fed bois are gonna get smoked before the end of the year and they’ve earned it by undermining themselves in the public eye. I have extreme confidence that things will get better in the long run, but as for the foreseeable future, the worst is yet to come.
Tl;dr: Law enforcement abandoning clear uniform identification for bad-faith/ill-intent symbolism logically justifies lethal resistance. There will probably be multiple shootings of feds by the end of the year at this rate. If some alphabet feds get shot, could be claimed as a cases belli for some real bullshit.
It’s not a major reason it’s the reason.
The first question they ask an officer in any situation with force is did you announce your presence and was it obvious you’re police. It’s the whole reason you aren’t supposed to be pulled over by plain clothes, they’re supposed to call a marked unit to effectuate a stop.
This trend didn’t started with ICE officers hiding their face but with the police patrols with “ghost marks”. I remember from years ago seeing memes of those patrol cars compared with European ones, that are full of bright colors, the message of each one as “I’m here hidden to catch you vs I’m here calling your attention to help you*”
* Obligatory All Cops, even the hot Sweeden and Italian cops, Are Bastards.
Even shorter TL;DR: The lack of verifiable face-value LEOs breaks even the shitty social contract we did have, and it’s gonna create problems.
