How to say Marx was right without saying “Marx was right”.
Let climate change end humanity, we fucking deserve it
The problem is humanity is taking most of the other species in the world with it. Just the methane/permafrost feedback loop out of dozens of feedback loops will usher in the level of warming and ensuing extinctions experienced during the Permian/Triassic die off.
The ruling elite are incinerating all of us for profit, and they don’t give a shit.
It’ll just be another chapter in Earth’s history. We’re not the first life form to have caused an extinction event due to radically changing Earth’s atmosphere.
What it would prove to us, however, is that; despite our massive ego, we (humanity) are no better than, or more above the laws of nature than, those first single-celled organisms that radically changed Earth’s atmosphere to one of oxygen. Yet monumentally less significant in our footprint.
Canada (and the world) will burn. You think migrants are a problem now? Wait until millions of people have no choice but to go north and the water wars start.
the spice must flow!
O damn, almost forgot about the water wars. Those were brutal. Before those people genuinely believed there was nothing bigger than a World War. The fools. Like if you’re still here in 2125.
The water wars will start far sooner than that
Pakistan and India, Egypt and Ethiopia. Various states in the southwest are looking to pop off when the civil war starts up. Water wars are starting NOW.
Saying we have failed is the easiest thing to say.
Doesn’t mean it’s not the truth.
Because its true?
Barely anything had been done these past decades and the result is that boat loads of people now believe conspiracy crap over the actual truth that climate change will milk us all
I fully expect that even less will be done in the next years so yeah, were screwed
I suggest actually doing something about it then. Direct your frustration towards something productive. Take the risk because if we don’t then no one will.
Here’s why your comment is horseshit:
The cost of solar photovoltaic (PV) technology dropped by 81% since 2009, and wind and battery costs have also plummeted. By 2017, most new power-generating capacity added worldwide came from renewables, not fossil fuels.
A comprehensive review of 1,500 climate policy measures across 41 countries found 63 cases of successful policies, each leading to an average emission reduction of 19%. The most effective policies combined tax and price incentives with regulations and subsidies.
Although global greenhouse gas emissions reached record highs in the 2010s, the rate of growth has slowed, in part due to climate policies and the adoption of cleaner technologies.
The Montreal Protocol (1987) successfully phased out ozone-depleting substances, demonstrating that coordinated global action can work. This agreement also had climate benefits, as many of the banned substances were potent greenhouse gases.
And here is why your comment is horseshit:
Yeah, the ozone issue was handled marvelously but the much bigger CO2 issue has been treated like… Well, just plain not. The Paris climate accords were a joke and still just about all countries wiped their ass with it.
Solar being so super cheap now is awesome! Just that, you know, the US is working hard to kill anything that is not coal and oil, and most countries have been increasing CO2 emissions, not decreasing them. We multiple times passed points of “holy shit this is a no return” and do you remember everyone aiming for an insane 1.5 degree increase? Pepperidge farm remembers… We just keep pushing the acceptable temperature increase up because economy baby!
So yeah, politicians world wide don’t give a shit, we went multiple times over the line and still no one with power gives a shit. This “then you do something” is also a bullshit argument because here I am, literally right now separating paper and plastic but i know the plastic goes straight into some dump anyway because again, politicians don’t give a shit, and rich assholes keep flying big jets for fun…
It’s exhausting, and yeah, we’re fucked as a species
This is as far as I read “And here is why your comment is horseshit:”
That is seriously funny as I picked exactly THAT line from your response
Apparently you find yourself so insulting that even you yourself wouldn’t dignify your own responses with a read…
Bravo.
Fight for climate change is not lost, it’s still actively being fought by scientists, entrepreneurs, content creators, journalists and activists all over the planet.
Oil companies like this narrative of lost. It was always, don’t worry we still have time until now when it’s leaning towards “whoopsie too late”. It’s not too late, we are not all going to die because of climate change.
Right now climate change is on track to be horrible for large parts of the world but there’s plenty more we can fuck up beyond that.
There is also the potential for climate solutions. We have been driving things in one direction by pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. There are ways to do the opposite rapidly, just not as easy. Solar/Wind/Nuclear powered carbon sequestration and ocean fertilization are possible if all else is lost.
Happy to discuss realistic impactful solutions rather than just cycling doomerism with anyone interested.
I mean, that’s the thing. We all know there are solutions. But governments and billionaires at this point have to make the solutions happen, and they have no interest in many places. Hell, they’re actively working on behalf of climate change and environmental destruction in the US just to own the Libs and to the cheers of the rabid troglodyte portion of its populace. You don’t just have to contend with getting the facts to people, you have to contend with being but one voice amid all the antifacts that everyone is bombarded daily on every topic.
I know I’m a doomer, but sans an effective virus that takes out 80% of the population and mostly targets anyone right of center and all of the billionaires, I don’t think we have this one in us.
Did he fly across the world on his private jet to announce this?
I think he’s right, but he’s also a real asshole and lives in a mansion in Vancouver and likely creates more environmental damage than the average human
If I had mansion money I would buy land to live in a self built mud hut.
Most everyone who’s even slightly well off in north America creates significantly more environmental damage than the average human
David Suzuki sucks. Seen him at restaurants here in town before. Treats waitresses like shit.
Just hope that the next intelligent species will speedrun capitalism
With the Sun it’s hard to really believe there’s enough time left in the habitable zone Earth era left.
*for that to happen again.
Nah, for it’s left how much? 4-5 billion years, mass extinctions happen like every 100 million years and after each one there’s nonzero probability of intelligent life occurring.
Less people accept climate change in Canada today than 20 years ago. If we couldn’t do anything about it then, why would now be different?
That’s how I feel, like it might not be too late to do something but people just don’t care. And if we don’t do this together its pointless.
Lol yup, trump also went all in on climate denial. Definitely fucked.
1950’s oil execs funded studies that show how they will kill the planet if they don’t stop, transition to something else, hell they had enough fore warning they could have R&D’d solar and monopolize the tech, but NO! They needed to make faster money faster and stopping yourself from killing the human race isn’t THAT important, and they knew they’d be dead by now.
They might have been able to monopolize SOME of the tech, but they knew they could never own access to the sun. But yeah, they knew that they were incinerating us for decades. Which makes it premeditated murder in my books.
Futurama, Crimes of the hot episode was a prophecy
I try to stay postive but we’re slowly burning and yet politics has never been so aggressively stupid about this. And the warlords dictating or culture too. I don’t want this.
@asg101 I agree we’ve lost the opportunity and will have to “hunker down”. But hearing it from David Suzuki is…hard.
How to say Marx was right without saying “Marx was right”.
Hard disagree, this is a liberal doing the usual thing. As John Bellamy Foster elaborates on in his articles and books, the fight against climate change isn’t lost, it’s been abandoned by the ruling class of imperial core countries. Look up some of his stuff on Monthly Review the ecological rift is a very important concept that never appears in the kind of discourse you’re posting
Hunker down while growing the world’s population!
