• paskaeu25@lemmy.world
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    Ay least electronics in registered baggage is not a joke. Once we travelled with big group of scuba divers. And one diver had his torch in the cabin bag. It was wrapped into socks to prevent it from breaking. Some way the torch got turned on. (Scuba diving torches are really powerful, thus heat decently). As a result socks heated up and smoke appeared in the whole plane. Nobody had any idea where the smoke is coming from. The personnel was running back and forth trying to find where it comes from. Their arms were shaking. No result. Even though alcohol on board was only for extra charge, personnel started offering it for free to passengers (probably to calm them down).

    Eventually one of scuba divers decided to check his cabin bag. After opening it the huge amount of smoke rushed out of the bag.

    It ended up well. It’s good that it wasn’t in the baggage section of the plane, coz fire could have started in there.

    So electronics in baggage prohibition is no joke.

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      I initially thought you meant like a cutting torch and was very concerned, but then remembered torch is also used to refer to flashlights/handheld lights lol

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        …Which is something that TSA would fully allow onto the plane and might not even qualify as “electronics” to be removed during checkin.

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    ITT people don’t remember the joke that was security beforehand.

    Maybe we’d like to go back to the good old days though.

    A few more hijackings and Lockerbies are worth cheapening up security.

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      People don’t hijack planes because the cockpit is inaccessible and hijackers know they’d get dogpiled. The Lockerbie bomb was in the cargo hold. TSA fails the vast majority of simulated attacks. It’s security theater and a jobs program

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    I’ve forgotten a combination OC/CN spray (aka peppermace) in the bottom of a bag and been waved through. Complete clown shoes.

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    Fun fact, in Europe you dont have to remove your shoes, yet noone has bombed any planes.

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    The job of the TSA is not to provide security. Their job is to provide the illusion of security. They are basically living tranquilizers for the public.

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      Well, it doesn’t work. I feel inconvenienced, not safer. I know if someone really wants to hijack or blow up the plane, they’ll find a way.

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        Can’t they just lie to me? “We’ve installed overhead ai systems with x Ray lidar invisiview technology throughout the airport, so no more need for security!”

        Fucking even keep charging us for the fake technology and line your pockets. But let us all just walk to the damn terminal

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      It’s also a nationwide jobs program as there almost no requirements to work there. They aren’t actual law enforcement.

  • Lorem Ipsum dolor sit amet@lemmy.world
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    I mean one can argue that since nobody could foresee that security wouldn’t be there for the flight nobody could plan around it.

    “If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions.”

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    Iif terrorists were actually that big of a threat they would simply blow up the massive security line out in front of security.

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    Shortly after the whole high-security thing started there was a UK military officer who had been in charge of counterterrorism somewhere like Belfast, who was an expert in homemade bombs. He said the whole three-ounces of liquid thing was complete bullshit. He knew the specific ingredients they were saying people could potentially mix to make explosives in an airplane restroom, and he said no, these substances would absolutely not blow up a plane or blow a hole in a plane. They had to be combined slowly and carefully, almost drop by drop, in a temperature-controlled vessel, or they would react too fast, creating a violent splash that would merely give the would-be terrorist serious chemical burns.

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    I mean just let me wear my fucking belt. I can deal with a lot of indignity, but holding my fucking pants up in line is just insult to injury when you’re passing me through mothingfucking millimeter wave.

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      I have a belt with a plastic buckle/cinch thing now that i always make sure is my “flight belt” for this reason. Even for events i know will have security check points for access. I’ve only ever had to take it off ONE time in like 8-9 years and that was flying out of Dublin airport to mainland Europe last month- i had already gone through the scanner and I got flagged. Security dude said it had nothing to do with plastic vs. metal belt, just that it was a “bulky area” that something could be in……well, fair enough, i guess.

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        i carried a velcro cable tie once and used it between my belt loops, I’ve never remembered since.

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    Years ago I had a short inter-country flight in the EU.

    Forgot that I still had my swiss army knife in my jacket. Noticed before the scanners. Thought “fuck. oh well, worst case I’ll leave it here”.

    The people at the scanners didn’t say a word.

    On the way back, I remembered the knife again. Again on front of the scanners.

    This time they noticed.

    “is that a pocket knife in the jacket?” “uh, damn. yes”

    Guy checks out the knife. Hands it back to me “next time put it in the suitcase”.

    I put it into my jacket and get on the plane.

    When we land, I grab my stuff, including the jacket from the overhead compartment.

    Sometime taps me on my shoulder, I turn around and see a steward hand me my knife, grinning. It fell out of my jacket when I grabbed it

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    Damn that must be nice.

    Passing through the New Orleans airport last time I went to visit my mom, I showed up 3 hours early to my flight and didn’t even exit the security check line until an hour after my flight had already left. I was fucking livid. It took them four hours to pass maybe ~300 people through the check lines.

    What did make me feel a little better though was going back to the ticket kiosks to complain about it and try to get a different flight, and like four other ticket takers within earshot of us heard me and all chimed in like “maaaan, FUCK New Orleans TSA” apparently they’re demonstrably one of the worst in the continental US.

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    The handful of times I have flown in the past two years, all the airports I’ve been at no longer require you to take out electronics or your toiletries bag.

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      In theory that means they have newer scanners.

      I say in theory because for sanity’s sake I hope that’s the case, but I also know how they’ve historically worked thanks to the likes of Bruce Schneier.

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    I’m old enough to remember flying before all that bullshit and we literally just pulled up to the plane on the tarmac and got on. You could arrive like ten minutes before takeoff. RETVRN

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        If they got rid of the TSA they would have probably been given a lot more public good will, of course it would mean that the job market would suddenly have been swamped by the biggest bunch of idiots that anyone has ever had to deal with.

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      I visited the cockpit once on an international flight. JAL Tokyo-London. Just asked if I could, and sure of course.

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    In Schiphol Airport at least you keep your shoes on (not boots, shoes), and electronics can stay in your bag. The bag goes through a kind of MRI and that’s enough for them to see the difference vs older x-ray equipment. Pretty convenient