so when do we see nestle/mars/whoever try to kill this?
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Is Nestle above paying cartels for killings? That seems like it’d be right up their alley.
chaquita overthrew governments back in the day
I’m Chiquita banana and I’m here to say,
Violence and killing is our only way
It starts with a right-wing conspiracy fueled media ecosystem, I imagine the “best” minds are already working on that
substitute the milk then it’ll be cheaper and healthier
But has 3 seals, what the fuck.
This is a really neat system for making your uneducated populace healthier. People can’t be bothered to read so a single number to indicate something is unhealthy is rad.
Now I don’t really know that much about their system, but I would assume that almost every sweet would get at least one seal unless it’s made very healthy and not a sweet anymore? I don’t really speak Spanish, but in the link you sent there is an illustration of a girl smiling and holding a bag of cookies with two seals and with sparkles on the bag. Maybe the point is to choose the ones with fewer seals, and not to try to go for none?
You are right! The less seals the better, and we do activily look for products that have less than 3 seals. This being a “healthy product” with 3 seals is a red flag, because there are non healty products that do have 3 seals too. May be 2 seals can be more acceptable, but 3?? Non-sugar Coca-Cola has 0 seals, it only has labels, which says that the product have caffeine and endulcorants.
Edit: I post the Coca-Cola example to make you see the irony, because is real.
I see! Wow, sugarfree Coca-cola has no labels!? Yeah I guess it wouldn’t get any of those five but I would never say it’s healthy. Maybe they should revise the standards for the labels, especially if they’re gonna make a snack marketed as healthy that gets 3 seals. Seems like being made from natural ingredients (such as cane sugar instead of sweeteners) and without flavorants or colorants (opposite of what Zero Coke did to not get any labels) is one of the big selling points of this chocolate bar, so perhaps it would be a good idea to account for this with the seals somehow. But then people might think the government is just changing the standards to their conveniences so I don’t really know.
American slop producers in shambles
Not objecting, but what is the motivation of the Mexican government to do this? Have they done similar things before?
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Americans have such a shitty life that they’re addicted to drugs and can’t stop buying them, but sure, it’s Mexicans sneaking it in.
I don’t think they’ve done something exactly like this, but they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years, going as far as labeling all foods with excess fats, salt, and sugar. It’s very visible on the package and it does influence what I buy.
But this is the way I found out we’re doing this now. 😅
they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years
Actually doing something? Good on them!
But also I think because all the existing cocoa producers are evil enslavers. This will help something like 1800 Mexican farmers.
Nestle is notoriously evil - I’m hoping Mexico can compete
The only thing that EU has yet to stiff-arm on.
how are the labor practices
Better than the US.
48 hours a week is better?
Don’t have to piss in a bottle.
But we DO have Amazon Warehouses in Mexico!
Oh they pay wages that accommodate people buying homes in US cities?
What? Why would a job in Mexico pay enough to live in the US… That makes no sense. Cost of living isn’t even the same across the US.
Does the US?
In some places. If they’re better than the US the answer should be mostly yes.
I realize it’s a disingenuous argument but the problem with the US isn’t as much about wages. It’s about cost of living and cost of everything, and our government is to blame.
So your argument is everyone in the us owns houses in cities so they have better labor practices than Mexico?
Nice strawman. The strategy of the incompetent.
In US cities??? This is in Mexico lol
If the labor practices are better than the US they should be able to buy houses in the US. I’m not the one who claimed it was better than the US.
Would you choose to be able to feed/house yourself and be safe from preventable dangers, or buy a house in the US? If good labour practice means the latter and not the former, then I don’t believe it’s a good metric on which to evaluate their chocolate.
LMAO when did buying a fuckin house in the US become some kind of gold standard? In the country where they rip you off wherever you go. I swear to God Americans are so self centered and need to measure everything based on themselves.
The average cost of a house in Mexico is way lower than it is in the U.S., why the fuck would they want or need to buy a house in a Nazi country?
Between 14 and 96 pesos, or up to $5.15 usd
Vanilla?!? Disgusting
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It’s in Spanish but your browser should be able to translate.
If you haven’t had chocolate with vanilla in it, consider trying it. It’s my favorite chocolate additive. You need to purge ideas about vanilla being sweet or creamy. It’s a tobaccoy rich flavor that adds some depth even to dark chocolate.
Just about all spirits that are aged in a wooden barrel gets a hint of vanilla flavor, hence i consider it a wood flavor.
Fun fact - Nilla Wafers stopped using real vanilla decades ago to cut costs, and the replacement vanilla-like flavoring is a wood derivative.
isn’t it straight up a paper byproduct?
Since I discovered dark chocolate ice cream, I’ve been dying for someone to make a dark chocolate and vanilla twist soft serve.
As a kid we’d make our own milkshakes at home and the best ones we came up with were vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup.
Throw some malt in there!!!
Woah woah there Mr Radical. None can withstand such bold flavors combined. Vanilla AND chocolate?
Preposterous
Funny, it didn’t taste as good with chocolate ice cream.
What is the objective behind selling the chocolate bars? I will have to delve deeper into the topic.
I would presume it’s because they’re low in sugar. Due to exploding diabetes rates, Mexico has been making a concerted effort in the last few years to stem the consumption of sugary foods, drinks and snacks, particularly amongst kids. You can’t have a cartoon mascot on a box of cereal, for example. They put big stickers over Tony the Tiger before changing the packaging completely. And the cost of snack foods has skyrocketed, making it largely unaffordable for lots of Mexican families. A bag of chips there costs more than it does in North America.
My guess is that this is part of that effort.
But has healthy food become cheaper?
Man, I hope so.
When I worked in one of the poorest places in the US, those people literally couldn’t afford to get quality food.
They had no refrigeration so they’d walk to the dollar general and get microwave tv dinners super cheap and heat them up at my store.
You take that cheap shit away and don’t provide alternatives and those people literally starve.
I’ve heard people say, “those people just need to get a job.” When I was in my 20s I tried very hard to employ them. (My uncle owned a chain of gas stations and, despite his issues, he cares about people and tries to help where he can in his way).
One story that stands out in my mind. Dude shows up with the application, gives a great interview. Apparently social services were going to cut him off if he didn’t get a job. He worked for less than a week, then drank a half a gallon chocolate milk to cause issues with his diabetes so he could leave without confrontation via ambulance.
When I got his paperwork, he could not read or write and was scribbling random gibberish. There’s no telling how much just went out the door because he didn’t know how to handle it.
I was so angry at the person who trained him because she didn’t say anything about this. She just coldly said, “he’s an idiot. He isn’t going to last.”
The world shits on people like him. He was denied his disability over and over again.
WV? In the 90s, I remember my uncle still didn’t have a septic tank or sewage; the family still used an outhouse. For breakfast, they’d often make biscuits and gravy with this weird, and I assume cheap, canned-gravy I’ve never seen anywhere else (was good, but likely very unhealthy). Most of my family from there are dead now (drugs, shit-life-syndrome).
Also, I didn’t have a septic tank either as a kid. I remember using outhouses at relatives houses and our shit (at my house) just went from a pipe to the creek.
It’s hard to imagine living like that nowadays, but I did once upon a time.
You know it. I’m a West (by God) Virginian.
Crazy how I can just talk about the place and my fellow West Virginians know it without me saying it.
You and I have the same story haha.
Is there anything cheaper than rice or oats?
Mexico is in North America
Kind of ironic. Chocolate is naturally high in saturated fats, which hypothetically might contribute more toward diabetes than the sugar. On the other hand, high fat plus high sugar will certainly do a lot more damage than just one or the other.
She said it has 35% cane sugar, which pretty much means 35% of hydrocarbons just from that (if the sugar is refined, down to 32% if it’s totally unrefined) plus about 8% of the powered milk is also hydrocarbons, so let’s say it’s 40g hydrocarbons per 100g of product which is very bad for diabetics.
And this is without going into the total caloric level, which must high, not only from all that sugar but also because cocoa butter is pretty caloric.
There’s 100%-cocoa chocolate (or even the 90% one) and that stuff is very sour, so totally different.
This is fine for kids, because it avoids artificial ingredients, but it’s not for diabetics.
Makes sense. I recall watching a documentary showcasing how children were drinking from 2L soft drink bottles.
Hershey chocolate bar is rejected as chocolate because it doesn’t have enough cocoa and is contaminated with lead.
Hershey’s milk chocolate contains around 11% cocoa solids, meaning it doesn’t meet the European standard according to some sources. Therefore, in some European countries, Hershey’s is labeled as “chocolate-flavored” or “chocolate-flavored candy bar” rather than simply “chocolate”.
contaminated with lead.
All dark chocolate is
Yes, but not all has as much metals in them…
Makes me think of “American Cheese Product,” “cheese” that is closer to plastic but tastes and feels like cheese.
tastes and feels like cheese.
X
mmm I want “American Plastic Product”
it is closer to cheese but tastes and feels like plastic
You know cheez whiz is grey before they add the orange coloring
Since wizards wear grey robes I feel this checks out.
Glad the quality chocolate and also coffee isn’t wasted on the US.
Would be pearls before swines.
They don’t know better anyway.This is just bigotry. Just because a shitty megacorp makes shitty products that doesn’t mean good chocolate or coffee don’t exist here. You sound like the type of person who bases their views entirely on stereotypes.
Oh no bigotry!
It’s not about 1 shitty company. OC in a large country there will be some individuals who get good coffee or chocolate.
But the vast majority consume garbage quality.
And it’s OK bcs they are tasteless peasants.
Drown it in sugar, or better their beloved corn syrup and they’ll happily swallow it by the buckets.
My view is based on all US products I had the misfortune to taste.
Besides stereotypes are often true.What a moron. You chosing to consume shitty products is not an excuse to be a racist bigot, and you choosing to believing does not make them true, that’s why they’re stereotypes. You’re sound exactly like nazi saying that the stereotypes about jews are often true or a white supremacist saying the stereotypes about black people are often true or a homophobic religious zealot saying that the stereotypes about gays are often true. You saying it so, doesn’t make it so, the only thing it does is demonstrate your appalling ignorance.
LOL so butthurt.
Calm TF down clown.“you choosing to believing does not make them true”
Stereotypes are not ‘choosing to believing’ whatever TF you’re trying to say.
I said they are often true.
Like the groteskly obese american stereotype, proven by any study.I can see from other comments who say you are transphobic and a zionist 🤮 that I shouldn’t care about your opinion.
So fuck off, bye nazionist
You should rather pity them. It’s like Platon’s Shadow Cave, they’ve been fed lies, their entire lives, the few of them that actually get out of the USA will know the difference… The sad thing is that if you try to convince the ones that have never left the country, they will die rather than admit defeat.
I have moved beyond pitying.
Maybe in 1930 where some people could be misled bcs of lack of information and really believed they did some good by putting on a nazi uniform is somewhat understandable.
These days everyone has internet and can find out anything if they want to.
Despite the vast propaganda and media control in the US it is no longer an excuse.
They are willfully ignorant.
Even when they get confronted online with unpleasant facts they get back in their trenches as you mentioned.
So no sympathy here, they can stay in their cave and rot.
Sounds like you chose the shitty chocolates. I almost never buy chocolate, but when I do, there is always a healthy selection of 85-90% cacao goodness available.
Fuck Americans.
I can’t even begin to imagine how miserable your social life must be. I just know everybody avoids you like the plague because they can smell the bigotry just oozing out of you.
You catching or pitching?
¿Porque no los dos?
Bend over
The cadmium is actually part of a new marketing push: “Try Hershey’s, they’re Cadmiummy”
That actually made me want it a little, thank you
Not the news I was expecting but kind of a cool way to address a variety of issues, like obesity, imports from US, generating revenue, subsidizing a national crop, etc.
Don’t hold your breath, the Mexican government makes the American government under Republican rule seem competent. Just like how the American government is bought and paid for by corporations, the Mexican government is bought and paid for by the cartels.
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The lady doing the presentation said that it has 35% of cane sugar.
Also behind her you see “hecho con azúcar de caña” which means “made with cane sugar”.
Cane sugar is generally at least a bit refined merely to purify it (so unlike High-Frutose Corn Syrup it’s not made by chemically transforming something else).
That said, it’s unclear if they use unrefined sugar cane, though that stuff is a complete total pita to work with hence I doubt it’s not in the least bit refined.
Mind you I looked around and the info on this is all over the place: like for example saying “no added sugars” but then a bit further it turns out it has “cane sugar”, which does mean that sugars were added (as the cocoa plant doesn’t produce cane sugar, that would be the sugarcane plant).
Mind you, by all indications this beats almost all North American chocolates, but that hardly a tall barrier to overcome. It’s pretty common to find similar stuff in European supermarkets.
She also said it contains soy lecithin (just a little!) and salt
What would sweeten it if it didn’t have added sugars? I’m not sure I fully understand what you’re saying.
He’s saying its likely got cane sugar, which is basically “less” refined sugar. It seems unlikely it has no added sugars and likely what they are trying to say is: it has no high processed sugars/artificial sweeteners.
i feel like the best way to put it would just be holding a cup of pure white sugar and going “this ain’t in it”
