• Kairos@lemmy.todayEnglish
      17·
      5 个月前

      No it is a community. It’s just that they’re lying that this is protecting it.

      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        5 个月前

        I would say it’s not a community just based on the fact that you can’t have any kind of actual conversation in the comments section. Commenting on YouTube videos is just screaming into the void.

  • Cabbanis@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
    5·
    5 个月前

    What will it take to make PeerTube relevant enough that people will creat content and follow creatos on the fediverse?

    • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      5 个月前

      Accessibility, usability, scalability at very, very large scale, actual searchability, and actual return on investment, because some people actually get money from youtube?

      Actually, peertube, depending on the instance and the popularity of the content, can be incredibly frustrating for a viewer. And it can be frustrating to the content creator. Some people are quick to dismiss minor (and less minor) annoyances, are able to look for fixes, and so on, but for almost everyone? The experience is nightmareish, with incertain returns (or no returns at all, as it stands).

      Once you fix all that, you might have a chance to convince larger entities to move to peertube. Well, more realistically, to host their own instance. Well, more realistically, to host multiple instances, because really some people would hammer the platform down with each video. See the issue yet?

        • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          5 个月前

          Peer to peer viewing can only go so far. Some people, when they put a video out, get hundred of thousands of view in the span of a few minutes. This works relatively well on youtube, with a very large CDN (and probably some heuristics for big accounts). It is enough to hinder “smaller” platforms like dailymotion. It would just be a terrible experience on peertube as it is now, unless the creator preemptively mirrored it in many, many places beforehand.

            • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
              1·
              5 个月前

              Not really, at least not when viewers all flood in once the video is out.

              In this situation, everyone needs a file, but barely anyone can share it, leading to terrible bandwidth.

    • Krudler@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      5 个月前

      Nothing.

      There is a massive gap between the aspirations of online consumers, and actual consumer behavior.

      People will never ever support creators, that’s the bottom line. People are greedly little fucks and they like it. Don’t fool yourself.

      I say this as a former massive streamer will millions of watched hours. People. Are. Shit.

      • Cabbanis@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
        2·
        5 个月前

        Sorry, but I don’t think what you said is correct. People love supporting others and it happens all the time to many creators. Sorry your experience was negative.

      • frittoBee@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        2·
        5 个月前

        I think it has a lot to do with people not having enough money. I’d love to support every creator I like but its simply not possible. If we’d all earn enough money the creators would earn more as well.

        • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
          2·
          5 个月前

          Exactly! Sometimes I feel I do not support creators/open source projects enough, but then I remember I’m dead poor and sometimes can’t afford food without going into debt, so hey, I’m not quite in the position to.

          And there are quite a lot of people like me. Once the situation improves a little, they first improve their standards of living a little, they get to afford and buy things they long needed, and only then can they actually spare money to support someone or something.

          Many don’t get to the latter part for a long while.

    • frittoBee@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      6·
      5 个月前

      Is it possible for creators to earn money on PeerTube? If not, maybe that’s what’s holding a lot of them back. And of course the fact that most people don’t know what PeerTube is. It should be easily accessible for everyone and have some kind of system to give the creators money. And make the switch from YouTube easy.

      • Cabbanis@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
        2·
        5 个月前

        It’s possible, but they have to implement the paywall or ad revenue by themselves. They are allowed to monetize, but it’s not necessarily trivial or even profitable, at this point.

        • zalgotext@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          5 个月前

          Making money on merch/patreon can only happen once your channel is established though. Until then, YouTube creators are dependent on ad revenue to keep them going, and probably operate at a loss until they reach the point where they can supplement that ad revenue. Trying to get yourself established on a platform that doesn’t offer any ad revenue is a much harder sell.

    • Omnipitaph@reddthat.comEnglish
      6·
      5 个月前

      The masses don’t know how to search for information anymore. Not only that, but they are unable to do so with the disparity of their understanding of the search engines and the current state of search engines. People are used to being fed information through an algorithm, and those who control the algorithm aren’t about to promote a competitor that’d take away their money.

    • Aggravationstation@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      5 个月前

      Most “non tech-savvy” people I’ve tried to explain the concept of open source software and initiatives like the Fediverse to just outright don’t trust them. Whilst they might say they’d prefer for software and services to not track or manipulate them if you asked them directly, they can’t truly conceive of tech that doesn’t.

      The only interactions these people have had with the digital world have been as part of the modern data scraping hellscape that was once termed “Web 2.0” after the internet went mainstream in the '00s. They weren’t part of the internet when it was a niche interest and more open, so they know no better and accept that predatory behaviour as the way of things.

      I’m not an expert in psychology but I don’t think it’s overly dramatic to say it puts me in mind of those poor individuals who were abused as children, never received therapy and go on to seek out other abusers in adulthood.

  • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
    24·
    5 个月前

    Yes. It’s been this way for about a year now.

    Fucking sucks. I used to enjoy looking at YouTube while signed out so that I could see new content that my algorithm refuses to show me. Now I can’t.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      5 个月前

      I wonder what sort of demographics are effected by this, because it’s the first I’ve heard of it and I semi-regularly browse while signed out.

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
        2·
        5 个月前

        Yeah I’ll frequently pop a private window when watching something I don’t want mucking with my recommendations and I’ve only ever been prompted to sign in for age verification

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      5 个月前

      I can still watch videos logged out most of the time. That message only appears occasionally and when it does I use Celluloid or Freetube to watch the video.

  • IWW4@lemmy.zipEnglish
    2·
    5 个月前

    I am using a web browser too access Youtube and I don’t have to log in to access videos.

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      5 个月前

      That doesn’t make sense though, since they can just create a bunch of free accounts for the bots to use.

    • DrDystopia@lemy.lolEnglish
      13·
      5 个月前

      I always use VPN and when I get this nonsense I know it’s nonsense because the video plays perfectly if I switch to a different country and reload the page.

  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
    5·
    5 个月前

    It’s a automated test to see if you will log in to Google or if you walk away.

    This is why it’s so inconsistent… It’s only sometimes, it changes if you change browsers or vpn endpoints. They make money from logged out users, so they are testing to see if they can push users into logging in without losing money.

  • RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    175·
    5 个月前

    LMAO at the irony of YouTube taking a stand against bot scraping as if that isn’t Google’s entire business model.

  • EpicFailGuy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    463·
    5 个月前

    You’re probably using revanced or vanced … there was a recent patch, you have to update it.

      • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
        24·
        5 个月前

        I’m getting it constantly in my old reddit app with vpn off. Seems if it doesn’t recognize your browser fingerprint it will call you a bot.

        • TurboLag@lemmings.worldEnglish
          7·
          5 个月前

          Yeah, I think it might be some kind of rate limiting. In another thread, it happened to someone else after batch-downloading videos with yt-dlp, which also prevented yt-dlp from downloading. Then it was back to normal (no sign in required) a few hours later.

          • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            5 个月前

            Can’t imagine it’s a rate limit in my case, it happens the very first time I try to load a video with the in-app browser

          • xylol@leminal.spaceEnglish
            2·
            5 个月前

            That happened to me but it lasts like a month. No one in the house could watch YouTube lol

    • frittoBee@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      12·
      5 个月前

      I normally use NewPipe but that didn’t work so I used Firefox and got that lovely message on the video. But now, a few hours later, it all works again…