Not a furry either but I really appreciate just the sheer amount of effort these people put into the costumes. must take a lot of time and money to do but these people love what they do and go to these conventions where they have tons of fun. props to them!! 👍
Those outfits look really impressive upclose.
I have lots of friends who are furries. I just tell them I’m too old and don’t get it, but have fun.
i’m not a furry
i don’t f/w spaces if i don’t see furries around & welcomed
for one i want to know its a place people don’t have to pass to feel safe
Furries are an important indicator species for online spaces. They are a sign of a healthy platform.
Look, you want the guy I know to fix your computer? Maybe deal with the wolf costume?
“Cool” is taking it a bit far.
I’m perfectly comfortable with taking it as far as “so long as it’s all consenting adults, it’s none of my fucking business, and I wish them all well.”
If it’s not my thing, no big deal. Some people like feet, and it’s not my thing, so no big deal.
Even if I find it personally gross, again, consenting adults, no big deal. Some people are into watersports, but hey, so long as they’re not leaving a mess or hurting each other, no big deal.
We’ve got enough trouble in the world without also trying to police what adults are doing in their goddamn personal lives. I yearn for a day in which more people could accept the “it’s none of my fucking business” ethos.
Yeah, I agree with all that. Doesn’t make anyone “cool” based on their sexual preference.
It’s not a sexual preference, it’s an artistic style and subject preference.
My hard line is at the sexualizing animals, no matter how disguised, but whatever. It’s fantasy. There are far worse role playing scenarios.
sexualizing animals
Anthropomorphized creatures with a blend of animal and human form/anatomy, and, crucially, human-level intelligence/sapience, are not the same as the real world’s “animals”.
No one at a furry convention is chatting with others about how sexy someone’s pet cat is, lol.
If you flip it around to giving animal features to people, is that fine?
It’s fine either way, add long as they can give consent. I’m just not attracted to animals, whether it’s a pig head on a human body, or an intelligent pig.
Yeah those fursuits look really hot to wear
The furry community is one of the most accepting and open minded communities because they understand what it’s like to be treated as outcasts and to be chastised for liking something that’s completely harmless just because it’s out of the norm. Most of the time it’s not even a sexual thing for them, it’s just something they like or something that makes them feel more comfortable out in public. It’s a way to make their exterior to be exactly what they want it to be. So in that way I think they’re pretty cool as a whole.
In general that may be true, but not all furries are benevolent. Every community to have ever existed in history eventually gets some bad apples and gatekeepers when it gets to a certain size.
https://www.avclub.com/the-insane-story-of-a-furry-convention-undone-by-its-de-1798264086
Obviously, there are bad people in everything everywhere. That’s why I said as a whole not ALL of them EVERYWHERE, like come on man, no offense meant, but use some context clues
Please don’t be a fire caused by intense yiffing…
Yeah and Blaire White & Caitlin Jenner exist as trans people but most of us are pretty chill. What’s your point?
I was kinda upset to find out that a furry blogger I used to read and listen to back in high school, Two the Ranting Gryphon, turned out to be a pedophile and went to prison for CP. They also turned into a neo-nazi. 😔
He was associated with the guy who was basically the reason there was no Califur in 2018.
My guy, you’ve literally just described the human race. “Not all of [insert community here] is benevolent” rings true everywhere, not just furries.
That’s why is weird to start with the assumption that anyone is cool. Or really start with any assumption at all.
There’s no assumption in saying “furries are cool”, much in the same way one can say “anime is cool” and “robots are cool”. It is a statement of opinion, not fact.
If you don’t find it cool, just say you’re not into it, but don’t try to gatekeep someone’s enjoyment of something by somehow refuting their opinion that something they enjoy “is cool”.
I’m not trying to gatekeep anything. I don’t care what you think is cool. Furries aren’t some form of media or object, they’re people. I don’t assume people are cool based on their hobbies.
That’s quite pedantic. I didn’t mean that as in “all furries are cool, including Nazis, fascists and other assholes”, I meant more “I like the furry fandom”.
Furries aren’t done form of media or object, they’re people.
“Furries” can refer either to people who are part of the furry fandom, or to the furry characters themselves.
It’s kinda weird that that’s the case, since usually, in furry spaces, the characters are referred to as “anthros” which is short for “anthropomorphic animals”.
why? i think they’re cool, is there smth i don’t know?
Nope
Yeah, I think it should be really warm in such costumes
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Huh?
“I do not like a certain subset of humanity because they are different than me and I feel safe punching down at them”
“I don’t think this particular hobby is cool” is not “I do not like a certain subset of humanity” and you are a clown for attempting such. If you’ve ever wondered why someone dislikes you, it is probably because of this behavior.
Unfortunately, that’s not what they meant.
Woah, you put a lot of words in my mouth. I don’t mind them at all. I just wouldn’t say they’re cool. Thinking about it now, it’s weird to think anyone is cool because of their sexual preference.
Turns out it was the bog standard “furries are sexual deviants” stereotype that’s existed since the early days of the internet.🥱
Still nothing about being a deviant, go cry about strawmen tho
Except it’s not a straw man though, because the furry=fetish stereotype has a verifiable source of when it entered the mainstream culture from a pair of TV episodes in the 90s and 00s - the famous CSI episode and one from a similar show that I can’t remember the name of. These two painted furry conventions as basically sex dens filled with orgies of people in animal costumes, and that was the first time most people outside of niche parts of the internet had even heard of furries.
Before furries, it happened to Trekkies. People said that people only liked Star Trek for the sexy green alien women. But it isn’t often that a fandom is treated like this and for this long. Anime had a similar but not quite the same stereotype, but that’s largely relegated to the really bad parts of the anime fandom.
And it’s very similar to the pathologization of trans women as men who get off on the idea of seeing themselves as women.
I’m not saying that they think that furries are sexual predators or something. I’m saying that the idea of furries being a fetish is a stereotype born from a malicious place that painted an entire minority as a bunch of sexual deviants for viewership on TV, and that they’re perpetuating that stereotype.
Its not punching down to be uncomfortable with people sexualising animals
It is when you generalize an entire subculture based on an episode of CSI from 1999
Dude, are werewolves the same as wolf-wolves to you? Because they are really not the same at all. It’s like saying a lemur is the same as a human. It is cognitively and anatomically very different.
Sure, but I’ve also seen plenty of content that is along the lines of “dog level of intelligence in caked up human body” (see: that slimy fucking “dog girlfriend” comic the one person posts to the comics community about once a week) and content that is “lets leave the anthro aspects on the shelf today” (Let me check my tag blacklist… pretty sure it’s tagged as “feral” on boorus).
Maybe this guy is talking about anthro stuff, or even catgirls, and is just pearl clutching. But there are also some quite concerning subgroups under the furry umbrella (much like many large groups). Just saying.
Yea I obviously agree that when the ‘feral’ category is sexualized, it is unimaginably gross, at that point you are really just making gross zoophilic art and invading furry spaces with it. But normal ‘feral’ art is just about cuteness and the intellegence is often scaled to be on-par with humans (think like Fox and The Hound). Do you beleive that version of ‘feral’ is bad?
Woah, you put a lot of words in my mouth. I don’t mind them at all. I just wouldn’t say they’re cool. Thinking about it now, it’s weird to think anyone is cool because of their sexual preference.
Why is there this weird prudish subset of the internet that seeks to over-sexualize benign activities that make them uncomfortable.
Furries are, at most, a place where a minority find it easier to express sexuality (such as homo-, bi-, pan-sexuality amongst others). This isn’t because it’s inherently sexual, but because they feel comfort and lack of judgment from their peers.
It’s a shame that you find that kind of acceptance to be uncomfortable
It’s a shame that you find that kind of acceptance to be uncomfortable
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said anything is the sort.
Nah you were just ostensibly judgy about a specific subset of cosplay enthusiasts. They put a lot of effort into the show. It’s a huge trigger.
If, for instance, you were a large-hat enthusiast, you might be put out if someone decided you fucked kids because of your sombrero.
Except, I didn’t do that.
Being a furry isn’t inherently sexual
Honestly, it’s the exact opposite. Furries are pretty hot.
Yanno, because of all the fur.
My beef with furries is entirely my own derangement and has everything to do with beserkers. No I don’t want to turn into an anthropomorphic bear, I want to embody a bear driven mad which is to say go apeshit hit someone with a yard implement and sacrifice them to an ancient god. If you call me a bear because of my weight and general looks I am going to hit you with a shovel and steal one of your kidneys.
Its one of those niche communities that makes me smile - a lot of creativity there. They’re my kind of critters (absolute geeks and nerds).
Did meet disgusting furries too that painted my view in a not-so bright light. Oh well, I’m now just more cautious all-around.
There are horrible people in every group. Unfortunately, it tends to be the worst offenders that stand out and define the rest.
Same I’ve been to so many furcons and it’s a fandom full of geeks and nerds. The creativity of the community is awesome and it’s something you don’t see in any other fandoms. Them fursuits do be crazy expensive too and it’s really just a form of cosplay which is what people don’t understand.
I can respect that they deserve to be treated a humans and still find it gross. because it’s gross.
Gross? What’s gross about it?
Mostly the related art. The amount of yiff communities I had to block to keep their porn out of my feed was surprising. I don’t begrudge them their lifestyle. You want to put on something and have sex with somebody, go for it. I’m not into even 1%. The amount of erotic art that exists is beyond astounding to me. Meanwhile, I struggle to find active communities about Halloween, Lego, and various games I play. Granted, I haven’t looked lately for new ones, but the ones I subscribed to previously aren’t very active.
That might be an instance issue, honestly. I have never seen porn of any kind cross my feed unless I specifically go looking for it. Your instance might just be federated with a bunch of furry porn communities.
My feed is basically exclusively 196, politics, Linux, Star Trek, and related meme subs to those - and I just set my feed to top 24 hours or sort by active on the all feed. But I also think a lot of communities outside of those are rather underrepresented on Lemmy.
From my understanding of federated instances, wouldn’t that mean your instance disconnected from whatever instance where those communities were hosted? Additionally, my instance either hosts those communities or is still connected with them, yes? I’m trying to explain Lemmy to friends. So, I’m making sure my understanding is accurate.
Yeah, that’s right. You’re on .world, right? Which I believe is federated with just about everything. There are all kinds of instances out there, and some are more selective of which instances they’re federated with to filter out communities like that.
That’s correct. I’m fine filtering them out manually, I was just very surprised at how much content I was seeing.
Fur suits and furry porn are two different things.
Sure, but nearly all of the furry art I’ve seen has been porn. I get that there are lifestyles and activities that are not porn-related. Either way if you’re into it, you do your thing. I’m probably not going to be commenting on their creativity because I find the whole thing a little creepy, but I also wouldn’t limit someone’s ability to live that way.
nearly all of the furry art I’ve seen has been porn
That’s a you problem, the majority of furry art is not porn, and it’s trivially easy on pretty much every site online where furry art is compiled, to filter out explicit material.
You said you find fur suits gross though, those aren’t inherently sexual.
That was someone else. I’m not the original commenter on this comment chain.
When they asked them what they thought was gross you answered, so I would assume you share that opinion. Do you not?
Y’all smell under that suit.
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Uh, read their username
I, unfortunately, do not have a suit 😭
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I never said I didn’t like furries…
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What are you talking about then?
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Sorry man I’m quite confused, are you saying people who don’t like furries are trying to justify furries?
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Ohhhh, fair point. Sorry for assuming you had something against furries
A certified furry classic uwu
The community is so awesome. I have never felt like I truly belong in anything but the fandom.
I’ve blocked every furry community that hits my screen - not my cup of tea - but I also see quality posts from you all the time in the corners of Lemmy that I do frequent. You 100% belong here, to Lemmy at large and not just the furry subsets of it. 👊
You mean they’re hot?
Dedication and creativity
