If I’m seeing the word “AI” outside of academic research or shitposting, it’s almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.
I am definetly guilty even tho i should start judging after knowing if its useful ai or gen ai
I really don’t think there is any useful generative or general AI.
So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most “useful” AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.
People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that’s been kind of covered by the catch all term “algorithm”. What most people understand as “the” algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn’t a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.
All that to say, the general public really doesn’t need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn’t care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.
There is ai used for enemys and video games and some for protein folding
Thats the ones i mean with usefulYeah, sorry, that wasn’t directed so much at you as it was using your post as a starting point.
I remember the Folding at Home program, that was more about distributed computing than AI. Game AI has been well-discussed for decades now, but in 99.9% of other AI cases it’s usually in reference to the current trend (or trying to ride that wave) and like 0.1% niche nerd talk you caught a stray from.
Sorry that was rude because of my misunderstanding
And its nice that you gave complementary info
Exactly. I don’t have problem with AI. I have problem with slop machines pretending to be AI.
I chat with ai whenever I don’t have a friend to chat with. (a lot)
Oh. Well at least you have the comments sections for now, though who knows how long before thats talking to AI as well. Apparently facebook is that way.
Until we fundamentally invent a new algorithmic approach to ML then there will be no more progress made in the abilities of AI.
So it’s here and it’s finished for a long time. Now is when you make a judgment on the validity of a new tech.
And this tech has been all marketing and no substance besides the ML applications we have been using them for since the 90s.
AI Slop Eaters need to know their bullshit is unacceptable, Fuck AI.
In your opinion, how should AI be handled now that it is out of the box?
Heavily regulated on the data it is trained on, respectful of copyright laws, with caps on electricity cost, and also explicitly banned for use in customer service, finances, infrastructure, engineering, research, medicine, legal practice, and sales. That also extends to programmers who work for those industries.
Basically, anybody trying to turn a profit from such a shitty non-product should fuck off. I also reserve the right to tell AI Sloppers to fuck off in other contexts, because it has no use case.
But, to be clear, I am referring to LLMs and Generative AI who create statistical models of language, and similar AI made to operate equipment after training on footage, not other learning algorithms used to make statistical models of things like which drug has an attachment point or which mice have cancer.
Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.
Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.
I dont evento understand your point. His are both things related?
amazing example of the person described in the post!
Fuck ai and fuck ai simps.
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Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.
Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS.
I think those two ideas are completely unrelated. LLMs are indeed an application of AI, and whether someone assesses its output has nothing to do with what they call the tool. I mean, people can be selectively specific in the areas that matter, but it doesn’t mean they’re wrong or obtuse across the board.
Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn’t a fleshed out product yet it’s being pushed into apps that don’t need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn’t intended for but it needs to be opt in.
i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive
i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa
There definitely is a very real “AI derangement syndrome” kinda thing going around among some. It’s like…we can be opposed to the use of AI to take away people’s jobs while simultaneously dumbing down culture, without throwing out the ways it can actually be used by workers to improve their work output or the experience for them of doing the work. I’m not familiar with Kdenlive, but it sounds similar to Photoshop’s generative fill, and that’s a fantastic feature. Using AI to do a better version of what content-aware fill has done for over a decade. People who are opposed even to these uses need to pull their heads in, because they make it much harder to effectively oppose the real problems with AI.
content-aware fill was even started as a fucking GIMP plugin of all things
Your comment makes sense IMO.
To make an enormous simplification, it’s like those who screamed “rape!” because someone had looked (in a wrong way) at them. It removes the credibility of real rape.
Sorry, it’s early and I couldn’t find a nicer analogy, I posted it anyways because it’s an important distinction IMO, “AI” isn’t burning the planet or taking your jobs, some saves your grandma from cancer, LLM and image generators does.
Also, and this is only what I think, Art is also used in this way, some person drawing a panda for some company is now an Artist. I mean maybe they are but that panda can be made by an image generator (if it can be done cheaply) and free up their creative potential to do other things.
And also, it’s not like someone has a plan how to make things better, it’s just “forbid it” (good luck with that) or being angry online.
The world is black and white for many people.
Sorry, it’s early and I couldn’t find a nicer analogy
I mean, you coulda just gone with “the boy who cried wolf”.
Crying Wolf is making something up though so not exactly the same.
that is absolutely the coolest thing I have seen in technology in years
AI is like I dog shit on a sidewalk: I go out of my way to avoid it.
I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button
If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn’t see any ai slop button on these.
They use AI to translate the website, which is great, but the German looks awful at times.
I might consider that for myself, next time I need one, but the kid is not a techie. He needs something that just works, with anything he may encounter , for at least 4 years. Most damning of all he probably needs to be able to game, and is not interested in having to figure out extra steps
Fucking love my Framework 16 and I’ll tell everyone every chance I get.
That’s awesome, back in my day, we had to spit in our homemade fleshlights to get the slop.
I’m really happy with my ASUS Zenbook 14 (16GB memory, 512GB SSD, Intel Core Ultra 7 255H), which I got for $700, in case you’re still looking for a recommendation. Absolutely worth it IMO, though I’m running Linux, so the Copilot key is mapped to the compose key.
Went with an Acer. Best keyboard, tiny screen borders for a fairly compact 16” screen, 32G, 2TB, 3.1 lb …. I forget which CPU, we looked at so many.
The big question is battery life, and we decided to risk it. For a claimed 9.5 hours battery life when new, will it still get through a realistic full day of classes for the next four years. Hopefully
I’ve had good experiences with Acer with previous laptops, so that was probably a good choice. Best of luck to your kid!
Thanks
Move over gamers, AI shills are the most discriminated group now!
Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.
Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.
AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.
One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.
It has poisoned literally every aspect of life.
“The left went too far with ‘woke’, but that doesn’t mean we need to go too far in the other direction!”
No. fuck that. Wanting basic human dignity for all people is not comparable to fascism. It’s insane that this even needs to be said.
It’s fucking baked into everything at this point. It is inescapable. I fucking hate it.
If you want to take this one step further, it’s the the inevitable result of identity politics in general.
Once you decide to generalize away per-issue stances just to paint them “left or right”, “red or blue”, “my team your team” then it becomes trivial to make an argument that both sides are the same, or conversely that both sides are polar opposites. Whatever suits you.
Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable. Republicans are erasing reproductive Rights. Democrats are trying to guarantee them. They are thus, as a whole, complete polar opposites.
Generalizing from the specific is a convenient mechanism, but error prone, and it leads to absolute trash discourse… Which in turn leads to a failure of consensus for specific demands to make during a protest.
“No Kings” isn’t realistically actionable.
Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable.
This is disputable. They have had very different approaches. I’m convinced this talking point is conjured up by Russia to sow dissent.
… Did they both involve sending weapons to Israel?
This is exactly my point. You’ve made it better than I ever could have.
The minute you buy into identity politics, you’ll reject what is front of your own eyes because you fail to seperate an issue from the whole. If “they” are wrong on the “issue”, then you’ll diminish the “issue” to protect the whole, thus protecting your identity.
Biden and the world and the current Democrats are absolutely fucked the dog on Israel. That doesn’t mean the Democrat turd sandwich isn’t still better than the giant douche, but there is no godly reason that one can’t evaluate issues honestly.
US foreign policy involves US companies sending weapons to Isreal and the US gov providing aid. Its been that way for over 50 years. Once the war broke out for the first 6 months there was no reason that should change, the democrat policy during this time was to use the aid as leverage to constain isreal and they did. The republican policy as been to use the US’s position on the world stage to empower isreal. These are two completely different approaches.
The dems got multiple ceasefires and pushed for a reasonable end to the conflict while republicans broke ceasefires and changed the deal to be so one sided there is near 0 chance gaza accepts.
It is supposed to be insulting, to make you think about it.
Like it shows your definition of AI is lacking. Nothing about AI says it needs to be able to be sold. That is the Capitalist take on it. Because they want to sell everything.
AI (or LLM as you describe it) is nothing more than computer generated text. It says nothing about how it should be generated or what is should be used for.
In that context, if your mind immediately goes to slop when AI is mentioned, then you are no different than the ones who start fuming when pronouns are mentioned.
