• UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
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    "Exact time is no longer available. For the precise time, subscribe to Clock com. Thank you for upgrading "

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    Also Clock is now an Electron app running in its own instance of Chromium, because the devs are afraid of static typing, thus everything needed to be in Javascript.

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      This makes me sad. I get using electron for cross-platform stuff like VSCode or all the other examples (trying to do desktop apps with decent looking UIs that work across Linux/Windows/Mac is a nightmare) but the clock that only works on windows? WPF and/or WinUI ARE RIGHT FUCKING THERE WHAT THE HELL?!

      THEY’RE YOUR FUCKING PRODUCTS, MICROSOFT!!!

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        trying to do desktop apps with decent looking UIs that work across Linux/Windows/Mac is a nightmare

        I’d argue that both Qt as well as GTK is right there for the taking… but those are not “industry-standard”.

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          Also there was a big push for “web first” applications, thus there’s a lot of developers with that kind of knowledge. In college, I was instructed to instead of learning software optimizations, to learn how to outsource complicated computations to the cloud, where there will be always enough compute, so I can write my code “as clean as possible, without worrying about optimizations”.

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            That explains so, so much. Not just why everything wants to connect somewhere, but also disasters like programs with >1000 npm package dependencies. Why learning the right way if you’ve always been told to go the easy way.

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            Wha? That’s a dangerous mindset to teach. The last thing you want is to add network latency to every interaction or tether an app to the internet when it doesn’t really need it (but I guess big tech didn’t get the memo on that one).

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          Probably skill issue on my end tbh but here goes:

          I’ll admit I’ve never tried GTK. I’ve always assumed it was specific to linux and used to make apps that look a certain way (like they were made for gnome) vs allowing you to make UIs the way you want to. Maybe I should look into this more.

          Qt I’d say is “industry standard” but I’ve never been able to figure it out (so definitely skill issue here). It’s just that every time I’ve tried it, it’s been confusing where you’re even supposed to start. Also the last time I tried it I was a bit lost because I assume that I’m supposed to use Qt 6 (?) but it requires me to create an account because there’s a whole community/enterprise pricing thing (fair enough, nobody’s entitled to OSS work, especially not billion/trillion dollar companies). I plan to look again but that’s where I’ve been stuck so far.

          I hate shipping chromium for every single app and it’s easy to fuck up a react app but there’s something to be said about cutting through the BS, just building, and having it work the same everywhere. Webapps won’t perform as well as native but they will perform well enough that it’s fine assuming the product owners give a shit.

          Still learning but this has been my sentiment so far.

          Edit:
          Been playing around with iced.rs a bit and it looks promising but I haven’t done anything past beginner stuff so no fully formed opinions yet.

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            I’ve always assumed [GTK] was specific to linux and used to make apps that look a certain way (like they were made for gnome) vs allowing you to make UIs the way you want to.

            That definition more or less applies to Libadwaita, which is basically a fork of GTK4 but specifically for Gnome with lack of proper theming. However both of those Frameworks can be used on any desktop platform. It’s just not very common to be used outside of Linux.

            There’s also Libadapta, a fork of Libadwaita that reintroduces theming capabilities. Both it and GTK4 can be themed with CSS, so you can very much make it look however you want. One example of something that’s GTK but absolutely doesn’t look like it would be KlipperScreen.

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    I recommend Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, which is supported until 2032 and has never required me to update my fucking clock or calculator, never crashed my SSD, and never randomly encrypted my hard drive and lost the recovery keys! And, there’s no OneDrive, Copilot, Recall, Cortana, Clippy, or whatever else Microsoft’s cocaine addled executives have come up with this week to FUCK us.

    Since thats the standard for operating systems we’re working with now, I’d say this one is pretty good!

    Here’s how you can purchase your copy today!

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    My wife came to me saying her laptop wasn’t working. She was on it last night. It was forcing a Windows account login. Shift-10 disabled so I couldn’t bypass.

    Microsoft can straight fuck itself after this. Trying to brick an 8 year old laptop with a local account. Fuck that noise. My wife is gonna have to learn Linux.

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      trying to reinstall Windows on a used computer I got recently sent me over the edge. holy fucking shit that was so complicated. there is just no way to install windows without a Microsoft account now, their documentation is both out of date in some locations, non-existent in others (posts removed), and seemingly up-to-date yet incorrect in other locations. I followed the instructions for installing with a Microsoft account and then unlinking it, and it was fucking hell. I had to do some back door shit (not really, but stuff that the average user doesn’t stand a chance of doing) in order to get my account actually unlinked so that I could sign in with the local credentials

      I will not be buying Microsoft again. just going to transition slowly as Windows 10 fades away

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        Download pro, during install before setting initial account: shift+f10 (may have to hold fn key if laptop). When the cmd box opens type oobe\bypassnro hit enter an PC reboots. Disconnect networking. Say I don’t have internet. Now you can do local accounts.

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        I installed Windows 11 on my machine a few months back because i couldn’t get Cities Skylines 2 to run properly under linux. What a fucking mess. only had it for a few hours before i went back to linux. Ahh the serenity.

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    Just a moment

    Progress bar at 100%

    Progress text reads “complete”

    Wait 2 hours

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    At least it tells you what stupid shit it is doing. There is apparently another ‘security update’ for android and I’m assuming it is actually another complete UI overhaul called a security update again.

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      All apps need updates as new features are added. The problem on windows the updates are slow and UX is poor.

      Nobody’s complaining about android clock needing updates, because they’re seamless.

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        Why does a clock need more features. It tells the time. MAYBE add an alarm to it so you don’t have to have 2 apps. that’s it. It’s not a calendar, it’s not a task-tracker, and the last time I checked we still have 24 hour days.

        The only updates it needs are UI updates (which should be system-side anyways) and if the time source changes, which are a few bytes at most.

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          It likely includes stuff like timezones, timers, alarms,supports multiple languages. The update could be fixing a typo in Hungarian translation for all I know, or fix layout for displaying timezones on ultra wide screen 🤷‍♂️

          Software development is complex, even for seemingly most trivial things.

          If you take one look at the app on the [windows store](Windows Clock - Free download and install on Windows | Microsoft Store https://share.google/4wV9U8aDXtMySbd0j) and see the screen shots, you’ll understand it does more than display time.

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    Whoooaaaaa I heard the next update is gonna be HUGE

    The leaks say they’re adding millidays and a whole new second

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      Nah, they just moved them between 9-5, so now your work day is twice as long as your personal time is twice as short.