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LPT: Go get a shot, now.
Saw the US flag, read it without the “a”
I skipped my C-19 shot. The Flu shot I still get. There is a reason the C-19 shots recommendations have changed.
Yeah, the reason is that RFK Jr. is a hack.
Good, I hope you get COVID and suffer its consequences.
Well, I received the shot and booster prior to skipping all future shots. I did get C-19 like about 3yrs after my booster. It was as expected body sore and similar to flu symptoms.
Since I don’t regularly interact with public by not leaving home. I am not worried about it, but thanks for believing in me.
What a dumb thing to say.
The reason is lying terrorists lying.
And pathetic bitches like you are helping them.
I checked all the pharmacies in my area and no one had it, but it is now showing as available, albeit in limited quantities so I’ll be working to get us scheduled ASAP!
Last night I was hanging out with a few friends and they all started going in on “the clot shot” and Fauci making money off it and blah blah blah ugh
Waiting for the “sounds like you need new friends” joke, but that’s really a bummer. It’s difficult to make friends and connect with people as it is, and then this shit polarizes us and makes what used to be a fairly private stance something that would rarely, if ever, come up in friendly conversation. Hopefully they aren’t raging Nazis or anything…
What are you talking about? What’s a clot shot?
I Bhere were some vaccines that was believed to cause blod clots. I have a friend (35m) who got a stroke caused by blood clots after hos shot. If it was the vaccine or anything else is hard to say
Don’t chastise me as I am genuinely curious – I saw this clip on Huberman lab where the director of the NIH said that the covid vaccine was net more harmful that good for younger men. Is this not the case?
I would suggest speaking with a doctor you trust who also knows your medical history, if you are indeed a young man.
Young in spirit not age lol, was just curious
The NIH director was appointed by Trump, which came with a pretty strong anti-mask, anti-vaxx, and general ‘covid was a hoax’ sort of baggage, so he is unfortunately not that credible.
There is a study that correlates to the ages he specifies, but the conclusion is that the risks inflicted by the vaccine were still lower than the risks of COVID itself even for that age group, but no matter how they sliced it the risks either way for the age group was minimal, neither the vaccinne nor COVID were too risky overall. Pre-vaccine chicken pox was deadlier to kids than COVID was to that age group, and we didn’t consider that to be particularly risky, mostly worth vaccinating due to heading off the chances for shingles later.
That’s another one I don’t understand. In my country at least when I grew up (born 2001) most kids didn’t get chickenpox vaccines. I didn’t have one and actually caught the virus. I think I even had a scar from it. I know someone about 4 years younger than me who also is scarred from it. Not sure if they started giving it out now. I certainly hope so.
I’m old enough that the vaccine was unavailable, so I got the illness and at least one scar, but my kid was vaccinated and all my peers’ kids are vaccinated so they just won’t know what it’s like.
Seems like some countries think it’s better to keep it around to keep previously sickened people exposed to keep their immune system active to mitigate shingles, but seems like the data in the ‘vaccinate most of the kids’ countries have shown that this doesn’t actually matter, so we might see more countries embrace vaccinating against it.
Gotcha thanks for the info, yeah I don’t follow politics too much so was unaware the director was appointed by trump and came in with that baggage.
Wish Huberman had specified that in the caption
Trump’s health department is stacked with people hostile to the idea of public health. The People’s CDC, an anti-COVID advocacy organization, had this to say about NIH Director Bhattacharya in March prior to his confirmation:
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a health economist with a medical degree but no further medical training or practice. He endorsed and promoted mass COVID-19 infections to pursue an impossible to achieve infection-driven herd immunity. His policies such as mass infections relying on natural immunity would have led to even more illness, Long COVID, and deaths across the US. His extraordinarily wrong views on the pandemic include predicting, even late in 2020, that US COVID deaths would not reach 50,000, and assuring Floridians in mid-2021 that enough had been vaccinated – though far more have died since then. Videos from as recent as 2024 continue to show him advocating ineffective treatments for COVID-19 such as ivermectin, opposing layered protections against COVID-19, and belittling the value of important tools such as masking and vaccines.
Instead of focusing on advancing the medical sciences, Bhattacharya wants to intertwine politics and policies at NIH and prioritize funding based on academic freedom instead of innovative and impactful medical and health sciences research. If confirmed as the director of NIH, he will continue to downplay the seriousness of COVID-19 and potentially other infectious diseases, and steer NIH towards investment in ineffective treatments for diseases such as focusing on seroprevalence studies. Ultimately, this will harm and reverse the already monumental discoveries at NIH. He will likely assist Secretary Kennedy’s current efforts to delay and even prevent the development of effective therapeutics for infectious diseases, including COVID-19 – and for Long COVID. Finally, there is no reason to think he will fight this administration’s attacks on NIH staffing and cuts in research funding.
Ahh there it is, I wasn’t aware of this, thanks!
Are they anti-covid advocacy, or anti covid-advocacy? I’m pretty sure it’s the former from context but I’m still kind of unsure.
Both, I suppose. They go in on both anti-virus action and opposing pro-infection actors.
In their words, “The People’s CDC is a coalition of public health practitioners, scientists, healthcare workers, educators, advocates and people from all walks of life working to reduce the harmful impacts of COVID-19.”
The vaccine has a risk of causing heart complications. It should be monitored. COVID has a much higher risk of heart complications.
In the age group most at risk of COVID-19 vaccine myocarditis (12–29 years), for every 100 000 vaccinated, compared to about four more cases of myocarditis we have 56 fewer hospitalizations, 13.8 admissions to intensive care and 0.6 fewer deaths. Several studies have shown that post vaccine myocarditis/pericarditis are generally short-lasting phenomena with favourable clinically course.
The paper recognizes a 0.004% increase in mild short term myocarditis, with about a 0.05% decrease in hospitalization, 0.014% decrease in intensive care needs, and a 0.0006% decreased chance of death from COVID.
Of course, all this suggests that in that age range, it’s messing with all very low percentages, so it’s pretty much a wash whether they vaccinate or not, statistically speaking. But the vaccine risk is not ‘much higher’ and the severity of the risk is generally low, and seemingly still technically lower risk than COVID itself, but the risk for any of it is kind of down in the noise.
Tldr: us gov is no longer reliable for basically anything good, and can be now considered as explicitly and actively hostile to us all
i wouldnt trust info coming from someone like trumps admin, who is stuffed with his lackeys. especially someone lIKE RFK jr who doesnt believe in vaccines.
Gonna be hard for some people to remember that .gov sites are compromised sources now.
exactly, i only read the actual peer-review research paper with specific scientific research, to verify the claim of an article.i always try to look for said paper from a stem journal before going on NIH/NCBI.
Jay Bhattacharya, said here that I don’t think anyone disputes that it increases the rate of myocarditis, especially in young men..
Likely he is referring to this study that:-
But this statement is about a particular (temporary) adverse reaction. It does not mean the vaccine is net more harmful. The fact you came away with that impression just shows how easy it is to misrepresent facts.
I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.
My favorite JFK conspiracy is that no one killed him. His head just did that.
I like to imagine that he entered a Mandela trance that gave him a peek into our timeline where he saw RFK Jr. Then his head blew up.
The Mandela Effect is the weirdest conspiracy theory to me as that fucker was never off the TV during my teens. No-one would even have heard of him if he’d died before all that.
Also Bearenstien bears is real, I’ve seen the VHS!
Except another guy in the car also died
Nor John Kennedy, who’s even more of an asshole.
I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.
You know, there’s something called “rule of three”…
Head not worth shooting i guess, even the worm inside it is found dead, probably from suicide.
The worm is calling the shots here.
the worms give him immunity.cant assasinated more than 1 worm at a time.
The US Gov. wants its citizens sick and feeble.
The GOP isn’t just a metaphorical plague anymore.
“Pestilence” is such an underused word. They’re a lot like locusts.
government of pollution
Yep… They are definitely trying to kill off the bulk of the population If there was any doubt… It’s pretty clear now
at least we can “find comfort” in the fact that republicans are unlikely to want to get vaccinated.
This!
Or are extremely delusional and have a terminal savior complex. You’d be surprised to know how much people believe these kinds of bullshits, even if they start out as lies.
“A good liar will eventually believe their own lies if they were truth from the very beginning.” - some of the people of the early far-right I could talk to personally. I even heard the “Truth is not on our side” line a bit too much.
I do think elephant graveyard’s video on Rogan is correct. This is part of a plot by the technocratic billionaire class to purge the world of humans so they can do away with annoying things like “democracy” and “rights”
You don’t act like they do - just the money hoarding beyond belief, not to mention releasing products they know cause mental harm - if you want everyone to be OK.
Just got my second HPV vax and my understanding is I have to wait at least a month before I can have a different vaccine.
That said, I intend to get the Covid and Flu vax once its been a full month. They’ve never told me I can’t do both of those at the same time.
If you really want the vaccine, just follow the advise of your physician. They’ll know or find out wheter you can combine them.
If your a normal, healthy person there is no need to get the vaccine though. I get the flu shot every year because my employer offers it and I’m just a big wussy.
I’ve gotten Covid and Flu vax at the same time. I prefer it, I usually get a fever and my arm gets really sore. One time I tried one in each arm, and I had two sore arms for a couple days instead of one.
i tried asking for meningicoccal vaccine, but im not at risk so i wasnt given one, or the hpv one,. i was asked about the chickenpox vaxxine once, but i had CPOX when i was young, and shingles when i was 20. i had the vax for it, i dint know, but it appears it doesnt stop or reduce the severity of HZ.
I am not a vaccine sceptic but I am curious as to why America still vaccinates everyone for Covid. In Sweden we haven’t cared for many years about getting vaccinated and it hasn’t been a problem. The vaccine is available to get if you need it. But it’s not something we collectively vaccinate for any more.
I’m Swedish, live in France.
Here: vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate, in Sweden : meh do whatever.
Also Swedish people: hello neighbor please you’re only 5 meters away from me it makes me uncomfortable.
In the meantime in France: Hello friends and neighbours, kiss kiss kiss kiss!
On a more serious note, Sweden had the medical capacity that France didn’t have, which is one of the big reasons in the very different response to the pandemic in those two countries.
There’s more people in the US. Plust the US is not collectively vaccinating people
There’s more people in the US
?? How is that relevant
Why wouldn’t it be. The more people theere are the higher the chance for an outbreak.
They key point is density. The denser the population, the more people need to be immunized for herd immunity to be effective, because the more people the average person comes in close contact with even only in passing.
It’s like the difference in walking six blocks in a sleepy town vs six blocks in downtown Manhattan. Even in “rush hour”, with the sidewalks at maximum typical capacity, the former might net you a dozen close encounters while the latter could easily net you 1,200 close encounters. If you are immunocompromised, the same level of herd immunity in the general population makes the former a much safer environment than the latter.
And in general, Europe tends to be much more densely populated than almost any other part of America short of the major metro regions, and they make their cities far more walkable and pedestrian-friendly, increasing the amount of potential interactions someone has; even just passing interactions.
Statistics can be wild.
But getting vaccinated doesn’t really prevent you from spreading it, it just prevents you from not dying from it.
It doesn’t “prevent” but it strongly mitigates how infectious you become and for how long.
But getting vaccinated doesn’t really prevent you from spreading it, it just prevents you from not dying from it.
LOLWUT is this antivaxxer shit? Go back to your anti-reality, anti-evidence, anti-facts hellhole, bud.
Yes, vaccines can prevent you from spreading disease to others, though the degree of prevention varies by vaccine and pathogen. By reducing the likelihood of infection or the severity of illness, vaccines lower the amount of virus or bacteria shed, thus decreasing transmission to others. High vaccination rates within a community further limit the spread of diseases.
#Here’s why:
##Reduced Infection Risk:
When you are vaccinated, your body is better prepared to fight off the pathogen, making you less likely to get infected in the first place.
##Lower Viral Load:
If you do get infected after vaccination (a breakthrough infection), the illness is often milder, and you may shed less virus, which makes it harder for you to transmit it to others.
##Community Protection:
When enough people in a community are vaccinated, the chain of transmission is broken, protecting those who cannot be vaccinated or for whom the vaccine is less effective.
Therefore, getting vaccinated not only protects your own health but also contributes to the health of the entire community by helping to stop the spread of infectious diseases
It became a political statement here. That’s why you see people with masks on, when they’re in a car by themselves lol.
Have you ever heard of hay fever?
Yeah, I’ve heard of it. Its been around a long time. Strange though, people only started masking up alone in their cars a few years ago.
No such thing in Texas. Nope, the only reason to do anything, at all, while you are completely alone in your car is to hope that you will be noticed by some (definitely not a creeper staring into other people’s cars instead of watching the road) road warrior in a lifted diesel dually and deeply insult his proud lineage (land owners in the South who
definitely probablyhopefully were not slave owners) and his deeply researched (heard from Fox news while half conscious from alcohol poisoning, at a bar while looking for his car keys so he can drive home) personal beliefs.
Yeah magats only wear masks to kidnap and disappear people
Cant speak for the US, but in general, Covid is still more dangerous during the acute infection than the flu and also causes much larger numbers of post-viral sequelae. Those are all potential reasons to recommend the vaccine, which can reduce the severity of both
You guys have benefits to protect you, if you get sick. Americans barely get sick leave, medical bills are ridiculous, and if covid leaves you crippled, SSI (Disability) pays a whopping $11k a YEAR. It’s not enough to survive on, despite paying taxes. Yeah, someone might have worked enough hours to get SSDI, which is a few dollars more an hour, but still not enough to cover rent.
It’s pretty fucked up that you Americans can not be home when you are sick.
Agreed, we hate it too. Can’t afford to stay home, can’t afford to see a doctor.
When I was living in Canada, my partner needed to go to the ER and get a blood clot removed. We were seen by a doctor within 45 minutes and the bill for a non-citizen on visa was $250. After we moved to the US, it happened again. It took 3 WEEKS, 2 referrals, and over $14k for the same procedure. Capitalism is cruelty.
Same in Germany. Last year I asked some people who got vaccinated if they think I also should get another shot and all of them told me that I’m not in a vulnerable group (or a caretaker) so I shouldn’t bother. So we basically repeat what we know from the normal flu (influenza) and just vaccinate vulnerable people. I’m not sure if this is the best way to do it, because I think many people die each year of the flu as well. However, death statistics are hard and I couldn’t find any reliable data on this either.
US standard policy recommends flu shot for everyone if they can take it.
When I was in college, our choir director told us that the flu vaccine was mandatory – like he couldn’t actually know or enforce it, but we had a duty to the group to do whatever we could to protect each other in that high risk activity. Especially since some of the members were seniors. I thought that was pretty compelling and beautiful, and I got it that year after being hesitant and have every year since.
I saw a study the other day that mentioned that Sweden during the pandemic had a median time of 30 days sick leave for those who had Covid.
In the US that would be rare if not impossible for a lot of people. I would think if someone could get a shot that would lessen symptoms or duration in a country that has such a poor health care safety net it might be worth while.
Yeah most people here can stay home if they are sick. You get 80% of your salary to start and then it gets lower the longer you are sick. The first 14 days are paid by the workplace and after 14 days the government takes over.
I live in Ontario, Canada. I can just walk in to the local pharmacy and get the Covid, flu, and RSV vaccine for free.
The True North Strong and Free (except Alberta, their government are fascist Trump bootlickers.)
RSV is available in the states, but you would have to be in the risk groups and its not eligible to everyone.
Please send help - an Albertan
We can help ourselves. They are dumb and will divide their vote again at the next election.
Exactly. I know a few people who voted for her… now they hate her guts and don’t want to see her get reelected.
Stay strong Canada! I hope in a few years people will just think of Canada when you say “America” because it’s the major civilized country in North America
How soon before we get vaccinations with thoughts and prayers ?
Prayers should be applied topically or to worn armor, written on parchment and attached to a stamped wax seal infused with holy oils.
Thoughts are often immunosuppressive and should be guarded against with tinfoil headwear or nerve staples.
Who still cares about COVID 19
People that aren’t idiots?
Exactly
Anyone in healthcare who are still seeing knockdown effects of the disease for long term health effects in their patients. Oh, and those who have empathy.
When are we supposed to get the flu/COVID vaccines? Right now?
Yeah we’re going into flu season soon. And covid vaccines actually should be updated even more often than flu.
I just checked Costco and it says the covid vaccine is unavailable
You guys have flu vaccines? In the UK only old people get them.
Edit: Not sure why I am getting downvoted for pointing out that things work differently in different countries. Jeez.
They are offered to everyone. I’m not sure why you think that is a bad thing.
It is typically free if you have any kind of insurance.
Most people don’t have insurance. I certainly don’t. Why would you have health insurance in a country with free healthcare?
I never said they were a bad thing. Just never heard of people getting them who aren’t elderly. Generally because it’s something you have to pay for and nobody likes needles anyway.
I’m surprised a country with free health care doesn’t provide free vaccines.
If US insurance companies cover vaccines, you can bet your ass they’ve done the math and it saves them money over just paying for the people that get sick…
The UK government has been systematically destroying its healthcare system for a while now.
They do provide vaccines. Just not for flu specifically.
Jeez, that sucks. I always get my flu shot (I live in Germany). My Insurer allows me to get the one against 4 strains of the flu virus. Usually you’re only entitled to the one against 3.
how old, flu is so common that people get them very frequently, and some times its severe.
