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    Charlie Kirk. Kirk, 31, was the CEO…

    He was only 31?

    Geezus. Hate really does age you. I’m over 10 years his senior, and he looks 5 years older than me. And for once, this isn’t a humble-brag.

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    Unfortunately, all of the competent people at the FBI left already.

    Also, don’t forget that Trump very likely fucked a child and is covering it up. Release the Epstein tapes…

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    They’re looking for a white male ages 14 to 79 in Utah. So. Basically looking for a needle in a stack of several million needles.

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      This is where that super invasive dystopian surveillance tech could really come in handy.

      In Xinjiang, administrators logged people as high, medium, or low risk, often according to 100-point scores with deductions for factors like growing a beard, being 15 to 55 years old, or just being Uyghur.

      Help us narrow it down from a needle in a haystack to a needle in a haystack with a predictive score based on institutional bias. Book 'em Danno!

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        That’s not the most dystopian surveillance tech around. It gets both more intrusive and more effective…

        Think constant drone surveillance over a whole region. High res cameras, massive storage and long loiter times with glider like drones. You can just keep recording, and then when something like this happens, you just play the video back for the whole last day, following your suspect backward in time to when they left their home in the morning. The system isn’t even all that expensive to operate.

        Say goodbye to privacy.

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        Telecom black rooms, Flock mass AI surveillance, NSA secret catalogue of zero days… we control the internet backbone and a lot of traffic flows through our country just because it’s cheaper to route that way.

        That’s why we have fusion centers right? You can’t use your fancy spy tech without people parallel constructing a plausible scenario for how someone was really caught.

        Maybe they know where the shooter is right now and they’re just waiting for people to finish the story. Social media post, a call to an old friend, have a tip placed anonymously, suddenly they find him at McDonald’s.

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          They might find the shooter analyzing footage of the area but if the camera setup had anywhere near as many holes as any other college I’ve been to their chances are low, basically hoping social media got the shooter in the background.

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          It’s also odd bc within hours of somebody being shot on a public street there was a video and sketch released, but with this guy they allegedly have ccTV footage of him, but they haven’t even released it to the public

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    The assassin will never be caught. Law enforcement couldn’t solve a crossword puzzle if the answer is not handed to them directly.

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      Law enforcement was involved in it. This is clearly a operation to support denying trans folks of owning guns.

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      Law enforcement usually does not care enough to solve a crossword puzzle - but there’s surprisingly few cases that can’t be solved through the careful application of an overwhelmingly massive surveillance apparatus (See: luigi - who could have gotten away with it had they not managed to find the hostel camera footage)

      I’m really hoping this proves not to be the case here, just including the prior as a caution to anyone planning to be gay and do crimes that you can’t actually discount the cops completely. (And from having worked with LE in the past, the absolute #1 way to not get caught is to never ever tell anyone about it. Not your friends, not your mom, lips sealed no matter how cool it was. The number of calls in to their tip lines with people ratting out friend-of-friends is crazy.)

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    And the conspiracy theories are are already flowing. Apparently Kirk was convinced Israel was going to assassinate him so he had more security and wore body armor during public appearances recently. Another is that he pissed off the Nazi’s to the point they wanted him gone. Another is that it was a distraction op.

    It’s been a fun read the last few hours. Like “Who Shot Mr. Burns?” so…it was probably a baby.

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        He was claiming that Epstein was a Mossad agent & demanding that Trump release the Epstein files.

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        Because all conspiracy theories, after you strip away all the overly elaborate chains of communication, the gob smackingly large amount of people who would need to know and be completely silent, and overly complex reasons, always ends up back to the Jews.

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          Yeah, but the people controlling him, like some sort of geriatric meat marionette, are that smart. They are the ones putting the Executive Orders in front of this senile bag of burgers and controlling exactly what he says. The only time you get a glimpse behind the scenes is when he nervously flagilates on Live TV and doesn’t have a prompter to guide him along.

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          I’m not saying that it’s true, or even attempting to assert it.

          We are however to the point where this isn’t that crazy of an idea, it’s not out of the realm that these fucks would do this in my mind.

          No proof or evidence either.

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        yeah this wouldn’t surprise me at all especially now with the “FBI can’t find the shooter!” shit. My tinfoil hat says distraction op.

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        That implies he can play chess. I do see the logic, I could see someone wanting to sac a pawn. There are a lot of dumb theories about who could be playing Trump, like the Russians, or Thiel or whoever, so I don’t want to speculate who

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    They won’t catch the shooter because Kash Patel doesn’t want them to.

    If it was a Mossad. mafia or CIA hit, they are probably not even in the country anymore.

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    They don’t even know where the shot was fired from, apparently.

    It’d be amazing if they literally never figure this one out. There’ll be conspiracy theories forever.

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      I dunno, for all the alt-right frothing, Charlie Kirk doesn’t seem like someone anyone will think about even a month from now, let alone set up a pin board for.

      He deserved what he got, but if I was making a list of worthy targets I’d probably forget to add him.

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        He deserved what he got, but if I was making a list of worthy targets I’d probably forget to add him.

        Brutal, hilarious and true.

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        Legit forgot he existed till I woke up from my nap this afternoon and the internet was on fire about the shooting and shortly there after his declaration of death.

        Was a bit surprised a few discord servers I was on was trying to spin it like this was something the left always does and gets away with. When i asked for them to give a source to that they freaked out and tried to get a mod to ban me. Good times.

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          Yeah, there’s a rotating cast of grifters that are making the world worse but aren’t really individually important in the larger fascist project. And political shootings are almost entirely from the right. The last political shooting from the left I can think of is the congressional baseball shooting nearly a decade ago.

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          I got myself banned from a discord server for daring to refuse to express sympathy for his death and calling him a Neo-Nazi instead. One of the moderators is very conservative, unsurprisingly

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        I don’t l ow much about the guy, but per AP News (de facto genocide deniers), Kirk was instrumental in vetting Trump loyalists.

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          They made Babbit a matyr, and she rushed Capitol police during a violet mob attack on Congress, through a barricade, while cops shouted for her to stop. The cop that killed her fired a single, controlled shot. He was not firing wildly or with malice. She was ex military, and should have realized what guns drawn and warnings about deadly force meant. Bystanders next to her admitted to hearing the police warning her as she breached the barricades, but she did it anyway.

          Her mother just got a 5 million dollar settlement from the government and she got a full military burial with honors.

          They don’t need an actual reason for a martyr. They will invent reasons after the fact regardless of what happens.

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        Honestly I didn’t even know who he was, but clearly he was low hanging fruit with minimal security protection. The scariest thing about that video is thousands of young people at a “University” cheering on hate.

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        Charlie Kirk doesn’t seem like someone anyone will think about even a month from now, let alone set up a pin board for.

        He was a big mouthpiece for their propaganda. My coworkers yesterday were a surprising bunch, because apparently many of their families enjoyed listening to his “debates.”

        Underestimating the influence of ‘influencers’ is part of what got us trump in the first place.

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        True. But what if there is a list, and whoever did it is just starting from the bottom?

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        Id probably would’ve added him but as halftime entertainment. Id force him and Kent Hovind to duel to the death, winner gets fed to the wood chipper legs first.

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          He also showed a little bit of rebellion on Epstein before snapping quickly back into approved messaging.

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      My local news reported that a black clad figure was seen running across a rooftop immediately following the shooting so they’re trying to ID who it was. It’s the same rooftop where there have already been reports the shot likely came from. I forget the name of the building though.

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      Trump admin won’t let this go to waste. They’ll find a suitable patsy, then justify taking guns away from everyone except card carrying nazis, I mean GOP members.

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      I guess they need the bullet to lodge in something solid to trace a path backwards.

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        I gotta imagine with all the videos it’s possible. They’d have a rough trajectory through the neck and video of exactly how he was sitting.