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      Love that we’re making imaginary [gen-z/gen alpha/gen whatever the hell arbitrary title] the same way our parents and grandparents made imaginary millennials to get mad at.

      The Silent Generation called their kids “Generation Me”

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    people both younger and older than me talk like this and I just want to go anywhere else every time I hear it

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    I once made the mistake of dating someone 12 years younger than me (she was 25). Man, what a mistake, nevermind the cultural differences, her emotional maturity was…intolerable, and this from a person I’d considered a friend for a year already. It was the first and last time iv ever done that.

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    I’m 34 dating a 25 year old myself. Which I checked, it passes the “Half your age plus 7” test

    (34 / 2 = 17 + 7 = 24) Sometimes I still feel weird about it though

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      I’m just a bit older, but been there.

      I could never get past it though. I have a daughter too, and it really just takes one experience where they really remind you of your kid and… yeah, I don’t think I can do this y’all.

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      Half plus seven is just a rough rule of thumb, that tries to capture some different concepts at play.

      Personally, I never liked dating across major life milestone ages like 22, college graduation. The mid 20’s are just an important phase in developing one’s personality and sense of self, and being outside of the school environment is an important transition to learn. So when I was 30 I had a hard cutoff at 25, as I didn’t want to be with anyone who still identified with being a recent college student.

      I felt like a very different person as between 18 and 22, and between 22 and 26. But 26 wasn’t that different from 30, and 30 to 35 only saw some slight changes. It’d be hypothetical because I was already in a committed relationship after 32 or so, but when I was 35 my cutoff probably would’ve been late 20’s, and when I was 40 my cutoff would’ve probably been around 30.

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      “My girlfriend did this test and I think its broken? Her minimum age is higher than her starting age”

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      @ 30 22 feels waaay too damn young. tf am I even gonna talk to this person about? I’m a decade in to a high stress high reliability industry. I’m starting to get Greg grey hairs! I make jokes about all the child rapists I met while working for the state! Too much happened in that 8 years between us. Too damn much.

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    As an adult for most dating your peers is preferable to dating younger adults. I don’t want to hear “So what was the gas crisis like?” on a date ever again (IDK what it was like I was 3).

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    Maybe OP could date a 9 year old on the side, to fill the age gap. Or is OP not rich enough to pull that of?

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    Exactly! Why the fuck would anyone want to date someone that much younger than them? I will never understand why so many men want to date girl so young.

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      A friend of friend I’ve met a couple times is into me. They’re 23 and I’m 30 and I still don’t have an interest. They’re perfectly nice, but…

      I think after 28-30 it starts to really not matter that much but before that even smallish gaps can be pretty questionable. And any dude that would consider someone their age to be a “hag” probably largely dates younger because mature, experienced women can tell they’re really just garbage man-children.

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        For real. When I was 24, I dated a 19 year old for like two weeks. They were really nice and interesting, but ultimately the age gap proved to make a relationship unviable. I can’t even imagine a nine year gap at that age. Gross.

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        really just garbage man-children

        It’s a green-text, we knew that from the get-go

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          Yes, but even people who don’t go online much, even people I actually do care about in my own life, still fall into that category. The people I care about tend to be much nicer and wouldn’t call someone a hag but they do lack a certain level of maturity. Green-text makes it near certain but it’s a “not all rectangles are squares” situation.

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            Oh, but all rectangles are squares if we shoehorn a non-standard metric (this comment has absolutely nothing to do with the thread and it’s just a dumb math joke).

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        I agree with this. For me, so so much integral growth happens between ages 20 and 26-28 or so, and I don’t really think people in general know who they are or what they want in life until then. Not true for everyone of course. All the people I know who married young are either divorced or super unhappy though so it may skew my perception a bit.

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        Oh 100%. I knew a guy that was my age, that was always trying to date younger, because no women our age would deal with his bullshit. So… I guess I do understand, huh.

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          Honestly, because i’m a 20 something year old man with no life experiences and I don’t know how to survive on my own. Someone older with more experience who would be willing to teach me would be nice. It’s a big ask I guess. I don’t really know what else to do. I’m lonely and i’d like to meet someone kind, caring, and beautiful who can be a friend, lover, and teacher if you will. I haven’t told anyone this because it makes me sound desperate and like a lost cause.

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      People are feeling all kinds of pressure these days. If they want to have kids they need a lot of resources. But having a lot of resources is really difficult to do when you’re young. So that naturally suggests a compromise: one old with resources and one young with health.

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        Wait, but I thought men hated “gold diggers”? And also, that’s the result of our fucked up late stage capitalism economic system and not how things should work. A young couple should be able to afford to live comfortably and have children if they want.

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          Some men love gold diggers my uncle is one such man. In his own words “gold digger are the easiest lay”.

          It’s fucked beyond measure

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          People make life choices based on how things are, not how they ought to be.

          Generally a “gold digger” refers to a young woman who marries an elderly rich man with the intent of gaining a large inheritance, not a young woman who marries an established (but still working) man a few decades her senior with the intent of raising a family. A big “gold digger tell” is that the rich guy already has adult children who end up in a feud with his new young wife (because she represents a threat to their inheritance).

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            Oh really? I thought it ment a women marring for money in general.

            People can do what they want, but women shouldn’t have to feel like they have to marry some dude a decade older just to have a decent life and start a family. That’s all I’m saying.

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        What I mean I’ve been alive a long time. I’m not sure how I was supposed to accrue resources through that though.

        Also who wants to date a 19 year old they’d be really annoying.

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          The question is “why would anyone want to date someone much younger than them (presumably up to a couple decades)?” not specifically about dating a 19 year old.

          Not everyone can accrue a bunch of resources over time of course. But your odds of doing so are much better in your working years than when you’re in school.

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      younger partners are easier to control.

      and less worldly experience means they won’t notice their dull personality.

      lack of maturity and life milestones to date similar age ranges.

      over emphasis on bodily needs.

      and i repeat, control.

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    Generally it’s hard to connect with such an age gap but it does work sometimes. On those occasions, the natural genuine, and mutual draw transcends the age gap.

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    > be me 34
    > decide to look for a hag around my age
    > most of them have at least one kid, usually the annoying kind, and only see you as a babysitter
    > same ones are also super focused on their kids, no hobbies, no interests, no life
    > most of them seem to be super conservative
    > some of them are so bigoted they can only talk about "those people"
    > finally found someone who's bearable for more than 20 minutes
    > never mind, she's alcoholic
    > finally found someone not alcoholic and is bearable for even more time
    > never mind, she's both 300+km away and also married
    How do I find hot singles on the fediverse? I'm not reinstalling Tinder!
    
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      I tried that with Reddit. Parents cockblocked me. Had nothing but my missed life to think about in the meantime, so my mental health slips, and I ask who besides Serial killers and rapists deserves to die (looking for a description of myself in the answers).

      Implying someone’s life is worth more than others is a big no no on Reddit.

      Get permabanned for inciting violence.

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        Nothing but your missed life? You can live a lot of life without a romantic partner, as much I very much understand it can still feel lonely at times.

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          I missed my entire life. It’s not all about that. Though I also regret not experiencing what everyone else did. The mistakes, the heartbreaks, you know, normal people stuff, that’s mostly FOMO. What really sucks is I actually missed out on almost everything that makes life worth living. So, now I’m just in the mindset that I should just treat the good things of this world as false, and something that is meant for rich/normal people.

          I’m just here to work, and fight. I need to make sure no one else ends up the same, ever again. Until then, there’s no point in resting.

          So I went back to seeing myself as unimportant, and putting my mission first.

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            How old are you? You can learn an instrument at any age, my dad learned how to make pastries in his late forties, and there are so many other fun skills and hobbies you can develop pretty easily. You may have missed stuff but you’re still alive and that means you are the one in control of what you are actively doing or not doing right now. Drowning yourself in self-pity isn’t going to do anyone any favours. You can look back at what you missed for the next 30-40 years or you can forward to what you can get done in that time.

            I’d also love to know what this “mission” is and I hope it doesn’t have anything to do with being mad at women and has more to do with shit like worker protections and wealth equality such that people can live their lives to the fullest.

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              I could no doubt eventually learn everything, if I was not being terrorized both at home and at work. As a matter of fact, I sneaked a peak at how to play the piano once. I didn’t get far of course, because I’m afraid to even touch it. I am 29 years old, and watching the last of my twenties evaporate, trying to get someone else out of debt, as they make stupid decisions and say they will make it up to me once we get money. I have no doubt they can make money, they may even get us rich, but I don’t care about money past a certain point.

              If I had a decent tablet, the Laptop I have, some solar, peace, and free time, I would eventually solve all of my own problems that can be solved.

              EDIT: Oh yea, you were interested in the mission. Most of my notes are a scizo-like mess of what I want to do, but one thing that stands out is that I want to help people become as self-sufficient as possible, as I think that will help them escape abusive circumstances.

              No one to exploit: the oppressive system collapses. Why do you think those in-charge are so desperate to make people work? It is simple: all of their power comes from a sort of blackmail.

              Now, if a worker is secure, they can choose their job. They won’t be pressured into doing unethical things, because they won’t have to think about their and their family’s survival all the time. They will have a lot more time to socialize, and become more pro-social.

              They will be able to protest, to organize, to become candidates themselves. TPTB depend on almost free labor to build their infrastructure, armies, and exploitative institutions.

              What happens when the “peasants” can just say “actually no, I’m fine with my garden and small income”, what then? They will have to raise anti-independence laws, and antagonize the “peasants” until those “peasants” ask themselves: “wait, why do they have the right to just take my stuff for free?” and they start resisting.

              This applies to all levels of society. Abusive spouse? You can survive on your own, just leave them. Abusive family? Toxic co-workers? It’s not like you need food from them, you can grow your own.

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                We’re the same age. Maybe not in the same situation and I can appreciate that, but as far as time as concerned you’ve got a lot more life to live. I started learning mandolin a year and half ago and can play pretty competently at jams and stuff now. If it’s music you’re looking at, I’d encourage sitting at the piano with a song you like and playing along with it. It doesn’t need to be an expert rendition or any, and honestly a lot of people actually forget that messing around is still practice. You got a lot of time, our lives have barely even started my dude, it just can feel weird since of our nearly thirty years we were kinda just going through the motions of going to school and stuff, not having a lot of personal control, etc… In reality we’ve barely have probably 8-10 years to do much about anything and we should have many decades ahead of us, each also able to build off the last in ways that the “first” decade could only dream of.

                And yea, as far as this “mission” goes those are great values and ones I stand up loudly for regularly. Not sure what they have to do with this thread or your original comment or anything but yea. Self-sufficient is also a fine idea, but I would aim to also make communities self-sufficient. The owner class doesn’t really have skills, just money, but we all have knowledge and tools and ability. I spend a lot of time helping my friends fix their homes and cars and stuff(and teaching them that they can do it, too) and if someone needs to be moved I’m the guy to call. Building resilient, connect communities will go a super long way to reach the goals you’re after.

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                  You should be able to stand on your own two feet, before teaming up with anyone. Trade is fine, co-operation is a very good thing, but you should always be able to primarily live from your own means, and trade with others should always be considered a luxury that can be taken away at any time.

                  We don’t and can’t own people, so we should not depend on them. As you can see, even our basic needs, our basic humanity can be denied.

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            So I went back to seeing myself as unimportant

            If that’s how you see yourself, imagine what people think when they don’t even know you and meet you for the first time. Focus on what you have to offer other people, not what other people have that you want.

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              It’s just even when I’m focused on other people, anything I can do, is just second rate to the average person. If they try, they can always do it better than me.

              I am temporary support for most people who are friends with me. I do a good thing here and there, and after that dries out, they lose interest.

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                Who told you there was anything at all you could do in your life that there wouldn’t be something better than you at? Why do you let that stop you from doing anything?

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                  I have friends I worry about daily, which sometimes gets in the way of self-improvement. I have a very rigid schedule that I’m like, failing right now. I work 9 hours a day, and get up at 5 AM. I have to pay off my mother’s debt, or she is screwed. She works for an abusive company, and I put up with abuse in order to get her out.

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    OP doesn’t understand what cultural progression is. Of course different people gonna do stuff differently as time progresses, the class she was when you where in high school is just irrelevant.

    This is the case where op just has skill issue, and is stuck in the past like a boomer he is.

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      When you call someone born in the late 1990s a boomer though. It might be “hip” or “trendy” to do. But Boomers were born in the 50s man. Young kids calling adults from different generations “Boomers” just makes you sound like you didn’t pay attention in history class.

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        Language transforms. Where before boomer would be a word for the generation born during the babyboom, nowadays it’s used for old people who are unable to keep up with the times.

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          I mean I guess, but we have generations named for a reason. Calling everyone that’s old a boomer just makes you sound like you don’t know what you’re talking about IMO. To each their own I suppose.