The federal investigation into the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk has yet to find a link between the alleged shooter, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, and left-wing groups on which President Donald Trump and his administration have pledged to crack down after the killing, three sources familiar with the probe told NBC News.
One person familiar with the federal investigation said that “thus far, there is no evidence connecting the suspect with any left-wing groups.”
“Every indication so far is that this was one guy who did one really bad thing because he found Kirk’s ideology personally offensive,” this person continued.
In addition, two of the people familiar with the probe said it may be difficult to charge Robinson at the federal level for Kirk’s killing, while the third source said there is still an expectation that some kind of federal charge is filed against Robinson.
Factors that have complicated the effort to bring charges at the federal level include that Robinson, a Utah resident, did not travel from out of state; Kirk was shot during an open campus debate at Utah Valley University. Additionally, Kirk himself is not a federal officer or elected official.
A Justice Department spokesperson said, “The investigation is ongoing and beyond that we decline to comment.”
What leftwing groups or even prominent individuals in the US with any actual following advocate for political assassinations and direct violence against rightwing people they don’t like? Where are all the lefties supposedly making calls to violence and terrorism?
The media and even a lot of people here will flip a shit about someone like Hasan Piker being so radical and yet if he even remotely said something like “maybe we should just start shooting rightwing media figures” an overwhelmingly massive chunk of Hasan’s audience would tell him to fuck off and cause an uproar because that clashes with the basic foundational ideologies of leftwing movements in the US, they are about obtaining a state of freedom for all, the idea of targeted violence has little salience to a US leftist as we are well aware that 1. senseless violence doesn’t change anything, it will not lead to freedom for all, it just accelerates the bad things. 2. the ruling class in the US will jump at any chance to radically villainize the left, the bulk of the country will blindly follow along in this, thus random senseless acts of violence aren’t just bad because they are evil they actually existentially threaten leftwing movements in the US as a whole, leftists in the US are WELL aware of this…
The difference between the left vs the center and rightwing of the US is that the left actually builds coalitions on shared values, most leftists in the US these days are strongly influenced by figures like Bernie Sanders who has been mainly focused on broad social programs to improve people’s quality of life like healthcare and for fighting wealth inequality. How the hell would advocating for shooting someone like Charlie Kirk make affordable healthcare more likely in the US? How would it help get the public focused on Citizen’s United and getting money out of politics? Leftists in the US are about ideas and policies, this isn’t just an aesthetic, if you enter US leftist circles and start advocating for targeted violence as retribution, preemptive violence or really for anything for any reason at all the leftists around you are going to turn on you for being a hateful bastard trying to distract from the actual issues at hand.
If there is one thing that ties virtually all leftists in the US together it is that we fucking LOVE to argue about things… so much so that sometimes we can never agree on stuff because we want to argue the little details on and on forever. It is not lost on us that the very first thing that happens when you commit violence against others is that they stop listening to the wisdom of your arguments and ideas.
If he had actually gotten connected with any decent left wing group - instead of just being stuck mostly alone in Utah to stew with his (totally understandable) anger at the things Kirk was saying - that group probably would have told him something like “bro, chill, shooting people is only going to make shit worse for everybody we care about, now wash these dishes instead so we can open the soup kitchen on time tonight, we got hungry neighbors”
They’ve already spread the message that he is and they’re not known to retract anything, just double down if they’re proven wrong, so they’ve already done their damage. It doesn’t matter what the investigation finds.
Why not look at the other wing group? Ah too much evidence
Utah gov about to have another press conference, ‘he was so deep into the leftosphere that we haven’t even been able to uncover his presence yet. Mark my words, we are working hard to find the connection.’
“As yet, the Ultimate Evil remains largely unmanifest, and its powers and exact intentions are still a bit obscure since it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors which we feel gives conclusive evidence as to The Ultimate Evil’s nefarious intent.” - Spathi
That is a load bearing “yet!”
Since when has lack of any evidence stopped Trump farting out his usual halfwitted bullshit? It doesn’t matter if they find any evidence or not, the demented orange fuckwit will say it was those evil leftists.
Trump: “If you can’t find evidence, invent some. Here, have a sharpie.”
And if you won’t use the sharpie, you’re fired and I’ll find someone who will
And there won’t be.
This was predicted during the first Trump administration. A MAGAt is primed for violence for ten years & then figures out he’s been lied to and propagandized the entire time. They then use that violence on the very scum that lied to them.
Sometimes the Stochastic terrorism boomerangs.
Exactly. Just like the attempted assassinations of trump
Pretty sure he wasn’t shot with a 30-06. And I’m pretty sure those text messages we were shown also weren’t real.
Why y’all lyin to us?
We’d kno wIf he was remotely left of center he’d have gotten the Luigi / Hannibal Lecter treatment
The guy had a left hand. If that’s not enough evidence, I don’t know what you need.
/s
I think the only reason there hasn’t yet been a full-blown pogrom against the LGBTQ community is that the shooter they apprehended was a far-right groyper and not the far-left antifa terrorist they assumed would target someone like Kirk.
But with the sheer number of people on the left openly celebrating Kirk’s death, I don’t think they’ll really need evidence to start going after the left.
I heard that he might be one at first, but newest news say exactly what the article said: no groyper, no leftist.
Which makes sense because it both sounded weird to me that a leftist would write “whoever reads this is gay lol” or that a right-winger would write “Bella chiao” or “take that, fascist”.
This is a great example of how BOTH sides live in bot-fed echo chambers - just as much misinformation was flowing in the progressive online communities (including here) and it didn’t help our credibility.
We really need to get in the habit of sourcing things before we breathlessly repeat them on social media. It’s not hard to verify something.
I think one of them said catch fascist or something like that. Which is kind of funny. But if you can read this you are gay. I think he was just messing with everybody at this point.
Pretending to be sad about the spearhead of the Nazi youth is just pathetic. Even if everyone pretended it would not stop them, it is just a matter of if you go down swinging or not.
Doesn’t matter the right made up their minds about this the second he was shot.
Since when have the american right ever cared about facts? These guys are all feefees, no brain. Its why every time somebody capitulates to their demands they create a new dumber demand.
They’ll fabricate something.
forensically
I’m sure the guy who modified a hurricane path map with a sharpie wouldn’t cook up the result he wants on this.
