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It’s honestly a fascinating read. It’s fundamentally a PR piece, but the details (especially if you read between the lines) provide some interesting insights about how American oligarchs want to be viewed.
Difficult to make any educated speculation without direct access to the event (this is a PR piece first and foremost), but I get the impression there is an attempt to hedge their bets and avoid a scenario (even if it is low probability at this point) where they will have to go down with the ship.
Nearly three-quarters of CEOs surveyed said they were confident that U.S. free-market capitalism can compete with China’s socialist market economy in the global AI contest, and they expressed a near-unanimous discontent as the Trump administration has veered away from the capitalist system.
This is a particularly funny quote. America is not a free market model and China does not have a socialist market economy. Both are state capitalist countries with China being more centralised via the CCP and America allowing a measure decentralisation for oligarchs.
I get the impression there is an attempt to hedge their bets and avoid a scenario (even if it is low probability at this point) where they will have to go down with the ship.
There is precedent for that. The industrialists of the Famous Country in the 1930s had the same qualms about the Famous Leader and his Famous Party. But they liked the promise to rein in the Socialists and trade unions.
Spoiler: it didn’t end well for them
For the industrialists? It didnt end at all. They kept all their profits from the war and holocaust machinery and then went on their merry way to fund their next venture.
compete (…) in the global AI contest
Depending on the metric they may be right. The free market model may be able to outcompete in producing useless garbage.
Outside of AI? I think there’s hardly any contest remaining.
What a bunch of greed oriented pussies! They got us into this mess and skulk away instead of helping to fix it.
Lots of skyscrapers with windows in America… would be a shame if someone fell out of one.
“Moaist”… I mean he is autocratic and anti-intellectual, but… there seem to be a few other aspects missing in this connection.
Yeah, for one thing, Mao was literate.
I’m not sure Mao was anti-intellectual… The Great Leap Forward was meant to industrialize China in a short period of time, and to do that, he thought he needed to force a bunch of intellectuals to start farming and shit.
Pol Pot was 100% anti-intellectual
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any butthole would hurt too with that much bending over
They paid for it. Do they have buyers remorse already? It’d be a good thing if the resulting shitstorm consumes them all.
Ok I can see a comparison to the cultural revolution, especially with the attacks against academics. But the landlord president is most certainly not a maoist
I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?
Maoism is more than just working class attacks on academia and culture. In fact that element of Maoism is borrowed from folks like Mussolini. Maoism also involves the regime being ostensibly socialist, includes long term planning, and largely revolves around rapid industrialization.
Maoism was a top-down industrial revolution at gunpoint, carried out by someone who had no idea what industrialization actually was. So the authoritarianism, the brutality and the ignorance are all characteristics shared by Trump. The only difference is the lip service to socialism.
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Socialism 2. Long term planning 3. Rapid industrialization
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Maoism is a way to move towards socialism, it is not however socialism it just contains aspects of it like many forms of government. The us also has socialist policies and thus socialist aspects.
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The lie the admin is pushing is long term planning, they aren’t doing it but they’re certainly lying about doing it.
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“Bring back the factories” is a literal cry for rapid industrialization.
So I ask again how are they effectively different. They may sell it to you in a different package but the contents are essentially the same and I’d argue the result would be largely the same.
You’re absolutely right. Any country that makes long term plans, seeks to develop it’s industrial base, and “has socialist aspects” (which I assume mean, “the government does stuff”) is Maoist.
Emperor Meiji was a Maoist.
This is a very reasonable and coherent worldview. You’ve definitely read plenty of theory to know that one of the core tenets of Maoism is “making plans.”
I didn’t define it boss, read the comment then get rude of that’s your prerogative but at the very least keep up with the conversation.
You wrote down words, which is something Mao did too. Are you doing Maoism?
So you’re going to be rude instead of making a point?
I didn’t define anything dipshit the other person did and I responded.
I asked how they were different not the same, you should read the comment chain rather then be rude for no fucking reason.
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Bro literally gutted the farmers and used their tax money to bail out the country that replaced the exports of said farmers. That’s not very Mao of him.
I didn’t ask for how consistent he was I asked how effectively is it different.
As an aside you should read more on mao if you think he didn’t willfully fuck his people over too.
Ah ok, you’re just trolling. Lol
How so? It sounds more like you’re deflecting.
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You might want to look again at Mao’s catastrophic agricultural policies that led to mass famine.
Best comparison to that is still the million Covid deaths, at least half of which were completely unnecessary had Trump not intentionally sabotaged the US’s pandemic preparedness and then sabotages the Covid response with misinformation and withholding support.
But Trump did it out of malice, whereas I believe Mao at least thought he was doing something good. But both are narcissistic idiots.
But we’ll see if Trump manages to cause a real famine. It could still happen.
Trump is a narcissist he legit thinks he’s doing good so that can’t be it.
He already is causing a famine. Beef takes two years and of we can’t get enough domestically we go without for 2 years or we import it at exceedingly high markup because everyone knows we have no choice.
He’s definitely not ideologically a maoist (partially because he has no ideology beyond power and narcissism), but personality wise he shares a tendency to reject expertise, believe he knows best, and cause disasters out of stubborn narcissistic stupidity.
Although his death count is still 1/50 of that of Mao.
The solution is of course to suck his dick even harder.
We allowed greed above all to be the fundamental basis of our economic system. Obviously, the most immoral of all criminals, sociopaths, and psychopaths prospered.
Now, most of our business and political leadership lack any virtues whatsoever. Everything and everyone can be sacrificed, as long as it’s for profit.
US “preacher”:
I initially read this as ‘Moist’ leadership, which sounds worse.
American here. You know how we have Florida Man? Maybe we, and the world, need to start calling these idiots America Man.
Oh, fascism rounding up people with different opinions? Must be America Man.
CEOs don’t like the leadership but continue to support them to spite their face? Must be America Man.
Mourning a YouTuber’s death who did not like LGBTQ and then came together and crashed an LGBTQ app? Must be American Man again.
No, at the end of the day, we can’t cede America to the Fascists. The things America stands for are generally lies, but they don’t have to be. We at least have to aspire to higher values, or we’ll have no direction when this whole thing comes crashing down
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Every corporation should fear their workers
I’m fucking tired of these insider anonymites wringing their hands and nothing changing, just shut the fuck up or be fully transparent with this. Take a meaningful stand and stop ass-covering so you can say I was against this the whole time when everything collapses.
That’s just it they publicly suck his dick and leak stuff about being against him so they cover their asses. So they can say I didn’t support him. Couldn’t these assholes say we are moving their headquarters out of America. But they won’t cause America is the biggest market and line must go up.
They fed this thing…
CEO Whisperer sounds like the tagline of someone in !linkedinlunatics@sh.itjust.works
It’s a real thing, CEOs can get really anxious in their stalls at night, sometimes they will panic and cause the other CEOs to start panicking too. Someone has to go rub their legs and brush them out to calm them or they can hurt themselves.
