• nuggie_ss@lemmings.world
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    2 months ago

    I’m curious as to why you’re using a straw at all.

    is it that because you’re at a restaurant?

    You should know that by giving most restaurants your patronage, you are contributing to a lifestyle that we all cannot participate in.

  • Krudler@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Always remember that coke and pepsi do not use recycled plastic in their coke or pepsi packaging, yet they are outwardly huge proponents of recycling the waste they create

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    2 months ago

    I gotta be honest, I would personally insert a straw into the nose of every baby seal on earth for a flying cruise ship.

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    2 months ago

    if we reduced wealth inequality to the point noone could afford that kind of shit i bet we could ride the plastic straw wave for a few centuries before it really came back to bite us.

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    2 months ago

    The billionaires aren’t the ones teaching you about how the planet works. In fact how rich as person is has nothing to do with it.

    If you want to understand how the planet works, learn it from planet experts.

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    2 months ago

    Eco-friendly straws don’t have to be mushy paper.

    There are several other “vegetable plastics” that last long enough to serve as a fully functional straw, but months later degrade naturally. The reason you don’t see them being used is because McDonald’s doesn’t want to spend an extra $0.10 on every order, because that would totally bankrupt the billionaire company you know.

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      I still propose that we just stop with the single use straws and if people want straws for their drinks that badly they can bring their own reusable one, and if it isn’t takeout the restaurant can provide a reusable one.

      Like seriously why does everything need a straw?

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      2 months ago

      There is a hollow grass based solution used in asia which requires zero processing beyond cutting, drying and packaging. But I’ll keep the paper straws if the billionaires have to travel in paper planes and boats.

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      2 months ago

      In the last week I had the opportunity to use metal straws and bamboo straws. Much better than paper straws.

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      The best I’ve found is sugarcane straws. They cost 15cad for a 100 pack compared to 10dollars for 100 plastic straws, which is small enough to not matter to me.

      I know for a fact they dissolve as I throw them into my own compost, and also they dissolve to nothing if added to hot water (side note, you should never drink hot drinks out of straws).

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        Yep, sugarcane polymers are amazing. They can be made to dissolve quickly or last a little longer, depending on your needs. Technically they could be used as full packaging for chips and bread and similar foods.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    They tricked us into taking all the blame for climate change, so we’re busting our ass off to reduce and they don’t even pretend to care. In truth we could do more for the environment with guillotines than paper straws

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      2 months ago

      They tricked us into taking all the blame for climate change

      They tricked us into believing metric fucktons of single use plastics would keep us safe and healthy.

      But we never had any direct control over climate policy, because we never had any direct control over the capital itself.

      All we could do was blame ourselves.

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        Did they?

        I can’t recall anyone ever being anything but nonplussed and skeptical about paper straws. From what I can tell, it was a product of a think tank that pushed into the news, which then caused businesses to treat that as though it were public demand and pushed it out to everyone, and most people shrugged, used the obviously inferior product (because it was free and the alternatives require attention), and then people got on with their day.

        On the wider scale this was pitched as ‘the only thing you can personally do to combat climate change’ - but I suspect it is the literal strawman of a figurative progressive position, purposely pushing a manufactured defective solution as a means to distract and suppress more substantive change and organization thereof.

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          paper straws were about trash, not C02.

          they used to make them with a wax coating so they would not get mushy.

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        I’m so confused but you guys, how is reducing the amount of single use plastics in the environment a bad thing?

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          Individuals opting out of use doesn’t shape production or wholesale, because they’re so damned cheap to produce and the expense to dispose of them is on the public side.

          Single use plastics are a classic case of Negative Externality. You can only curb them with public policies and bulk production level decisions.

          The notion that “I’m doing my part” by not partaking in the fountain of free-at-point-of-service goods is predicated on an engineered misunderstanding of the plastics supply chain.

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            Canada has banned a bunch of single use plastics (including straws, cutlery, styrofoam containers, stir sticks and bags) as a direct result of public conversation that started with the straw in that turtles nose.

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    Be the change you want to see in the world.

    throws a Molotov at the next flying cruiser

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      Bruh if you so much as spit on said cruiser you’ll be wanted by the police for terrorism, despite the definition of terrorism being to threaten harm to civilians…

      Before I submit, I want to clarify that I have read the UK Government’s definition of terrorism, and as it’s a stupid ass definition, I elected to ignore it.

      “…as the use or threat of… …serious damage to property… …designed to influence the government… …for the purpose of advancing [an]… …ideological cause.”

      As we know, damaging property belonging to anyone else, regardless of how many people will be saved, is against the legal law and punishable. HOWEVER, going back to their own law…

      “…as the use or threat of… …serious violence against a person [OR] endangering a person’s life (other than that of the person committing the action) [OR] creating a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public… …which involves the use of firearms or explosives is terrorism regardless of whether or not the action is designed to… …intimidate the public… …for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause… …Action includes action outside the United Kingdom.”

      By their own law, any organisation intending to assist in the wilful and unprovoked violence against people, with explosives or firearms, is by their definition a terrorist. This defines the UK government and many companies as terrorists, coconspirators of Israel.
      The disclaimer “other than that of the person committing the action” absolves anyone of the definition if they are doing so to stop the attacker. This defines Palestine Action as innocent as they were acting to stop the attacking arms company.

      But the only reason these interpretations are not the case in reality is because the government a) choose which laws to uphold and when, and b) defend their decision by lying that the Palestinian people were the instigators of their own eradication by the various countries of the world.

      Sorry, I know this is just a meme