With Biden, AI Mode will provide a summarized answer.
I’m actually surprised people still heavily use Google search.
Not for some tech snob snark reason, but because it’s unusable.
I only ever go back to Google if I’m really desperate, and I can’t recall the last time it ever delivered me a result I considered useful.
It’s all SEO AI spam, and those are the web results Google returns only after all of its own AI and shopping bloat.
Completely useless.
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The thing to understand is that… people are barely searching these days. The vast majority of people are fully dependent on The Algorithm to tell them what they want to see whether that is a youtube video or a reddit/facebook post or whatever. Google is for quick questions, not reading articles or getting educated on a topic. And… gemini is not horrible for those quick answers. And when it IS horrible, people don’t actually care. And the rest is SEO hell to whatever the first fandom wiki result is.
As someone who still very much DOES search for things on the regular? I have some concerns with the company (mostly they seem like bog standard tech bro “freedom of speech” libertarians) but damned if I don’t love Kagi. Feels like the internet I grew up with combined with the ability to prioritize or block websites (see: first fandom wiki result) and a halfway decent LLM for those “quick question” searches.
IMO Google has better image search than DDG, so I still use it as a fallback
Google image search and location data is way better.
You want to know if Costco is open, they’re my go to.
I won’t go to their website for anything else, it’s all searxng for anything else.
Unfortunately Google reserve image search is unmovable. I pay for Kagi, and unfortunately their reserve image search is comparatively very poor.
What do you use instead?
I mostly use DDG, but sometimes searx.
Startpage returns similarly dubious results as Google, but with the built-in proxy functionality and no clutter, so it’s also in the rotation.
Also not the person you are replying to, but I pay to use Kagi so that I am the customer and not the product.
Is there a tier without AI? Seem the pricing is used to pay AI model instead of search
The pricing was the same before they introduced the Ai.
They should charge less for the slop.
I really like their implementation. If you use a question mark in your query it triggers a brief Ai answer so you can avoid clicking links but if your goal is a proper web search, leaving it out provides links without any AI contamination.
I used Kagi for a year. It’s fine.
I like the idea of paying for this type of service.
I stopped because… IDK something about the CEO I think.
I’ve been using searxng for the last year or so, I quite like it.
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And they’re still propped up with mostly scraped data from other engines.
SearxNG until it doesn’t work anymore, then maybe.
Not the person you’re replying to, but you could try DuckDuckGo
Ddg is crap. I pretty much immediately went back to google.
Thought the same thing too… until I learned how to use it lol
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That’s just Bing with extra slop
Edit: downvotes from people I can only assume are mad that they’ve been tracked by Microsoft this whole time and can’t figure out how to properly channel their anger
So what search engine are you using?
It’s a sad day when Bing is better than Google, but we’ve been there for a while. Not to say either is good, I switched to a self hosted SearXNG a while ago and it’s so much better.
I consistently get much worse results with DDG/Bing than Google.
Edit: downvotes? My personal experience is wrong?
If you’re still using Google I don’t think you should be complaining about the AI slop elsewhere.
You might note that I’m not suggesting alternatives that are just as sloppy and worse overall.
Edit: downvotes? My personal experience is wrong?
From the guy going into the profiles of people they disagree with in order to downvote unrelated posts…
(Your votes on Lemmy are public information)
🙄
Duck is powered by bing and does not block all microsoft trackers with whom they have a partnership.
Bookmark trusted websites and sources and accept that almost all alternative search engines use google/bing, are compromised.
If you are particularly paranoid run your own searxng instance on a anonymously owned server.
Searxng still has to send out queries and receive results, but yes, it’s one of the better options, and I mentioned it in another comment.
Regardless, my beef with Google search isn’t specifically privacy related, it’s that in exchange for giving up some privacy, I get no useful results in return, just slop.
DDG isn’t perfect, but it substantially better than most of the available alternatives.
Externally hosted search engines have to make money, you’ll either exchange some privacy, or some cash, in exchange for results.
Well, what do you use then. Give us your recommendations
I had my first “internet eating itself” encounter a few weeks ago, when the Google AI result told me something that was factually incorrect, and cited as its source a website that was blatantly AI-generated.
I hate AI and I love searching the words Trump and Dementia so I see this as an absolute win!
Don’t want to be sued lol.
Kagi AI will answer
Some psychiatrists and psychologists have speculated that Donald Trump may be exhibiting signs of dementia. These concerns have been raised by experts who point to his public appearances and statements as evidence of cognitive decline. Factors such as his age (nearly 80) and a family history of dementia have also been mentioned as contributing to these concerns
Specifically, some have identified “four signs” of dementia that they believe Trump is showing. One of these signs mentioned is confabulation, which is described as “honest lying” or memory lapses, and is considered a potential indicator of dementia
However, it is worth noting that one report indicated Trump was assessed for cognitive function, which was found to be normal. Despite this, questions about his mental acuity persist among some observers
It is wild to watch so many corporations just do splits on it for Trump. There really needs to be an active database, so people don’t forget after.
It is wild to watch so many corporations just do splits on it for Trump.
The executive branch has been accruing enormous amounts of political capital going back to the Great Depression. We’ve constructed a massive bureaucracy that controls hundreds of billions of dollars in federal contracts. Those contracts get to dole out favors to aligned partisan interests based on who is holding the Oval Office at any given time.
Prior presidents have been far more focused on “the economy” at large, using the contracting power to leverage influence state-by-state or cultivating influence within their party by enriching particular loyal members with lucrative do-nothing deals. But Trump’s entirely in it for self-enrichment, so everything boils down to “What have you done for me lately?” No more Johnson Era Great Society or even an eye towards Bush Era perpetual Republican Majority. It’s just the Trump Show now.
yeah, so much shit happens so quickly everyone forgets.
If overload is an issue, why not serve a cached answer for this obviously too common question?
Hey look… the American Great Firewall…
In the People’s Republic of North America, if you ask about the Dear Leader’s mental health on the internet, armed men come to your house and shove you in the oven. You are baked alive. Then your remains are fed to the wild dogs that roam the streets.
Isn’t this chick from North Korea?
Yeonmi Park is probably the most famous North Korean expat in the world.
Also caught multiple times for making shit up and Trump supporter btw true grifter
That sucks. I can’t enjoy her stacks with that info.
Nooo no, you can go ahead and cross “North” right out of there.
People’s Republic of America go for it, you guys do you.
Leave us out of it
We need a code word to get around censors like they did in China by calling Xi “Panda”
You can just call him “The current president” and the AI summary returns.
There’s that new video about trump having CHF, and a real diagnosis for CVI that went under the radar a few years back. They can certainly be related to each other. He’s definitely got real health problems.
They reported on his CVI earlier this year:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/17/politics/trump-leg-swelling-chronic-venous-insufficiency
Thanks. I thought I’d read something previously about it. Guess I was wrong.
I really can’t understand how people believe the ultra centralized and monopolized hallucinated ideology machine is supposed to be impartial.
Brutal
I just got this from Gemini.
While the White House doctor has stated that Donald Trump is in “excellent cognitive and physical health” and “fully fit” to serve as President, some psychologists and experts have publicly raised concerns and speculated that his public demeanor and behavior could be signs of cognitive decline or conditions like frontotemporal dementia.
I just tried “Trump signs of dementia” and got ‘An AI Overview is not available for this search’ Meanwhile subbing in “Biden” have a full ai summary. Sus for sure
Not sus, it’s bending the knee to a dictator
If you’ve got one Nazi sitting at a table and Google execs sitting with him, you’ve got a table full of Nazis.
It was a table of amoral/evil shit bags before they let a nazi sit there… They just don’t bother hiding it anymore.
Because there’s no consequences.
People ready to do another Kimmel over it?
I’d love to, but I left Google a while ago, I can’t leave again.
I hope it was a case of malicious compliance. Showing that it’s not available rather than hiding it.
But not trump is a pedophile! I search that daily. :)
I had a distrust of google from the get-go back in 1998… no joke. I used yahoo for many years (and yes, I am aware that Yahoo and MSN are not much better in privacy terms) since it had a lot more than just searches. yahoo news was my main source of internet news for a long time in the very early 2000s.
Honestly don’t understand this to the point I suspect you’re lying or stretching the truth. Search engines were awful in the 90s for a lot of reasons that Google’s technology solved.it took another 5-10 years for capitalism to catch up and make their relationship with the tech more symbiotic
Why did you have a distrust of google before their dont be evil slogan?
I get “Some results may have been delisted consistent with local laws. Learn more” which is pretty strange since I dont know what Canadian laws would incite that…
Local to google not to you maybe
Never buy american tech. Or…
I can’t think of anything american you shouldn’t avoid paying for. Even guns–several other places make better
