Reposting an old post I made that is more relevant now than ever
Pirate it and encourage all your friends to pirate it.
This is the way.
That’s just accepting cold shit as if it better than hot fuming shit.
Just watch some good non-American production and thank me later.
Someone once pointed out that in this meme, the gate controller is shouting commands to himself. Now I can’t unsee it, and neither should you.
perhaps operating the gate is a multi person job and they’re commanding the others
Walter Harriman manages just fine on his own though!
The gate has at least two chains, he’s operating one chain and shouting to the person operating the chain on the other side.
The money comes from somewhere shitty always with these things. All you can do is hope they stay out of it as much as possible and let the artists do their thing
i have a feeling it will be like ROP, or TREK( have someone that doesnt know or care about the franchise become its showrunner, kurtzman)
I didn’t mind ROP. I take it for what it is, expensive fan fic. If we stick to the Tolkien lore to the letter, we would have had a dancing jack black singing rhymes in a yellow hat to Elijah wood.
We live in this weird time where a tv show is either a 10/10 or it’s “unwatchable garbage” people have no nuance anymore
„Fan“ expectations will absolutely wreck it.
Amazon can’t make anything good
The examples in the comic give good counter examples
agreed, invincible had a good thing going for it, until ROP took away all the funding , THE ANIMations suffered pretty poorly, besides the long ass wait between seasons and how short they are, people just read the comics instead.(its the same issue with AOT)
I was trying to think of a way to shoehorn in my opinion on Wheel of Time, but fuck it, I’ll just say it.
Wheel of Time sucked. They fucked it up badly.
Maybe you can clear this up for me, but I didn’t like it because I couldn’t “connect” with any of the characters. Many of the scenes, for all the amazing set, costume, and effects work, just felt flat and uninteresting. Also, the story as told just felt odd like it was hard to follow for some reason. Do you happen to know of a better breakdown of what went wrong here? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills since I can’t exactly quantify why I found something with high production values not hitting the mark somehow.
I think it just had that ineffable quality of an adaptation where the people making it genuinely did not give a fuck about the source material. The fact that it ostensibly comes from such a great source gives their shitty, poorly thought out decisions an unearned confidence and gravity.
Most of the people watching it will never know that it shat all over all the things that made Wheel of Time great.
The books are slow at times, but everything has a payoff. Robert Jordan was ridiculously meticulous, where every little thing he introduced had a meaning, and more importantly everything followed a consistent set of rules. Like he wouldn’t just give a modern Aes Sedai the ability to rendezvous with her lover 400 miles away just to create a sexy side plot. And if he did give her that ability, he’d have done it within the framework of the rules. Like the showrunners could have used that to introduce Tel’aran’rhiod (world of dreams) a little early, probably through the use of a ter’angreal (magical artifact with a specific function). Instead they didn’t give a shit.
When it comes right down to it, they just didn’t respect their audience. And when a show doesn’t respect its audience, it leaves a stink.
Eh I had accepted the major and completely unnecessary changes. In fact, I got used to them and was really enjoying it in the last season as it was finally getting better.
Then it got cancelled for no reason.
but the boxes amazon was shipping things in to promote wheel of time where really nice, I still have one
I went in thinking “ok, fan fiction, alternate take on the universe”, and it was an ok show with some surprisingly great parts. Then the season two plot was just a turtle fucking a snail, and I was done.
Edit: to be clear, it was slow motion WTF, why is this nothing happening?
It’s not going to be a total reboot either! Same universe as produced that had Jack O’Neil played by Richard Dean Anderson. I hope they guest star Amanda Tapping at least once.
Or, what if the whole thing is about the Ancients before they ascended?
i suspect an origin story wont work either, they rarely recieve good reviews, as a subplot it would be great. lets hope it something like a new galaxy, or unexplored part of space.
Ugh I don’t need some angsty ancients romcom.
I need C4, godslayers in green jumpsuits, and major intergalactic diplomatic incidents god dam it.
I’m excited. I’m expecting Universe quality writing. i hope to be pleasantly surprised, but i don’t expect it.
still gonna watch it tho. i just bought the damn dvd collection last winter i don’t want to buy any more stargate shit for a while
Same here. Hopes are high, expectations are low.
This can vary a lot from Stargate fan to Stargate fan, is Universe quality writing a good thing or a bad thing?
From seeing the people in charge and how they handled the announcement, I’m kind of expecting something in line with SG-1/Atlantis, but looking forward to hearing more about the direction.
is Universe quality writing a good thing or a bad thing?
It’s a bad thing.
Stargate, much of the time, was competency porn. Writers threw that away and did a man-vs-man-survival style story in an enclosed space aboard a runaway starship. The story heavily borrowed cues from LOST and Battlestar Galactica (reboot) instead, relying heavily on characters spontaneously acting blind/deaf/dumb for no reason, seemingly as a plot-device to keep the drama going. The way to survival and broader frontiers was clearly to just work together, but that was just constantly and frustratingly out of reach. When the audience is used to the opposite of all that, it makes for a very miserable watch.
Tbf, I still enjoyed it for what it was, while recognizing it was very different and not as good as it’s predecessors. So long as it isn’t worse than that, I’m happy for new Stargate content, although I’m holding out hope it will be more like the earlier iterations.
Sorry, best I can do is 20 episodes of Wormhole Extreme!
Damn you, Jeffrey Bezos!!!
Honestly, I wouldn’t be mad
It’s a mixed bag, for me.
Charitably, I could say that they were a little ahead of their time. Something I’ve noticed about nearly all of the best TV/Movies/etc. these days is that they’re all heavily character-focused. It’s the well-written characters that are the soul of good stories, and the situations and settings are just a vehicles for character exploration and interaction. So, Universe, from my perspective, was an attempt to make a character-focused show.
But the characters they WROTE in Universe… well, there were a few really good ones, a few reeeeeeeeeeally not so good ones, and a lot of rather boring mediocre ones.
That being said, it’s still Stargate. I stillnreally liked the show and wasnpissed it got cancelled. I refuse to believe it was because the show got really bad numbers, on its own merit. But there is quite a lot to criticize about it.
Universe was half stargate half cw teen drama.
Remember, you can always watch it on the Skulls and Crossbones streaming platform. Or a torrent of other places.
How about judging the series after it came out instead of judging a book by its cover? Even if the chances of it being good are slim, it still has a chance. And it would be awful to ignore an amazing series based on assumptions.
I think the joke is more like judging the book by its publisher than by its cover. I would be hyped if all we saw was the cover, but that’s probably also missing the point of giving the show a chance to either excite or disappoint.
It’s not about the book, it’s the profits will go to evil villains and no one needs to see this so bad that it’s worth it.
They say capitalism can be managed by customers controlling their spending but people regularly put their own convenience above everyone else and so that never happens. Nestle doesn’t have to be good because people will still buy their garbage even if they printed “we stole the water to make this” right on the label.
It’s just a TV show. If you can’t live without it then you’re completely broken.
There are sites on the internet where you can download stuff in such a way that it will not profit anyone except maybe a VPN service.
I was fine paying for Amazon to make the highest quality stuff that I wanted to see, like the Expanse, Invincible, the fucking Boys etc as I do believe I can’t bemoan the lack of quality programming if I’m not helping foster it.
But then they included ads in the standard package and I jumped back into the high seas. Fuck that noise.
the invincible more less degraded in quality as the seasons went on, at least for the animation, and the length of time between such short episodes, people are so done with it already. the boyz is ending which makes sense.
Boyz also made sense for 5 seasons, because that was kripke shitick,you get the most out of season 5, nothing more. look at his other IP, SPN, went for 15 under new showrunners it was just a bad fanfic for 15years.
To each their own! I don’t know much about animation other than what my friends try to explain to my drunk ass but I thought, at least for the action sequences (more than half of why I’m in for Invincible) they’ve actually been improving in scope and ambition as it’s gone on.
yea the action/fights were good, but the animations were pretty poor compared to even the first seasons, and there has been questionable sources where the animations are done from. i feel like invincible needed more than 8 episodes, like at least 10-12.
Just be longer than 10 episodes
i’ll take 10 episodes of gold over 1000 episodes of shit.
But that’s not what we’re getting. Lot’s of series either are or have become 10 epusides of over-bloated visual spectical with bad writing desperately trying to be a 10 hour movie.
I will take 20 episodes of low budget gold over 10 episodes of shiny poop.
Ok? Good thing a full season is only ~20? And the benefit of a full season is the character development, which is where the gold comes from, not some 10 episode story you forget about next week.
10 would me that have to omit many things, but currently streaming are penny pinchers so they mostly only do 8-10 at the most. i think many shows on prime suffered because the budget went to ROP seasons.
10 is too short for scifi, at least do the normal sg version, 10 per half season to flesh out more material. 10 isnt enough to do that.
Oh god. I thought that was an AI joke image…
Amazon has financed the Expanse. That’s it. The evil fuckers have zero credit to the quality of the TV adaptation. It was two seasons at SyFy - then, sadly but unsurprisingly, SyFy was unable to turn it into a source of revenue (Hi Firefly :( ) and amazon financed it because the shitbucket in chief at amazon is an Expanse fan.
I think it was 3 seasons at syfy.
There is a bit of a shift between season 3 and 4.
indeed - you are correct. I thought it was 3 for a long time then somewhere mistakenly picked up that the transition happened after season 2. My bad.
Then why did it get so much worse after it shifted to Amazon? The first three seasons are a good adaptation, the next three spiral and make some really bad changes to the text of the books. I recommend that new viewers only watch enough to get hooked and then go read the books.
I read the books and I think both tell a good story in their own right. What was it that annoyed you so much about the TV adaptation? The only thing I kind of disliked was
spoiler
how Fred went out :::.
Hey now. No need to drag shitbuckets through the mud here. 🤌🏼
