I think it’s pretty antisemitic to ask them to explain themselves.
True. It’s not my job to educate you
Excellent user name.
lol I would’ve missed it @SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world :D
Lmao, the funny thing is I initially misread it as the other version for a second
Lol I think that’s gotta be the point
What?
They’re implying the original tweet means threat to kids isn’t from the genocide, and instead it’s the bigoted (and false) stereotype that there are secret Jewish rituals that kill children as blood sacrifices.
It’s almost certainly an intentional misunderstanding, but if anyone seriously can’t parse that out without someone explaining it, they really need to work on their critical thinking skills.
This is why “I’m not going to explain it to you” is the biggest and reddest of all the red flags.
Ignorance is the natural state of all humans, and the whole point of language is so that you can help reduce that natural ignorance!
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No. Humanity includes us all.
the paradox of intolerance does not mean nazis get to be considered worth listening to. or considering. they give that up. BY THEIR OWN CHOICE.
I agree but none of that removes them from “humanity”
It’s inhumane to deny the humanity of inhumane humans.
English is a funny language.
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That’s where I am at though. The behavior of Zionists has caused me to look at them less like people. They’re hateful genociding scumfuckers. They deserve any bad shit that happens to them at this point.
The only almost exception is in response to sea-lioning, when the request for an explanation is made in bad faith
But that’s what LMGTFY links are for.
While I don’t disagree, I do feel like people are over-quick to label any hard questions that don’t align with thier viewpoint as sealioning.
I’ve more than once asked questions about the practicality or edge cases of a particular stance and been called a sealion for it.
But the thing is, I want to know how that thing handles the practicality or edge case issues, and am trying to have someone who is deeper into the weeds on the issue than I am explain it to me, but just get called a sealion for it.
To be fair, this has only happened to me 2-3 times, but it’s super annoying, because I’m actually trying to understand, and might even be on your side if you’d address my concerns.
Agreed completely.
There are folk for whom reductio ad absurdum is a personal attack, and those for whom it’s a perfectly reasonable form of asking for refinement.
To pick an easy example – if we support neo-genders, we absolutely should treat someone who claims to “identify as an attack helicopter” as such and strive to use their claimed neo-pronouns. (Thankfully, one doesn’t need to support neo-genders to respect trans-gender and a-gender individuals or those unsure of their gender ).
I never made the connection to child sacrifices until this comment. Instead, I thought about the ongoing genocide in Gaza and countless children who have been killed. Because one is real and one obviously not real and would never even register.
Asking someone to explain what they mean is totally valid
not to mention the context. Ms Rachel is getting raked across the coals for saying that the children on both sides of this war deserve to grow to adulthood, to make lifelong friends, and meet people with whom to raise their own kids. in all the exchange has basically gone:
it would be good if children weren’t killed
it’s antisemitic to want certain children to reach maturity
it is not antisemitic to want all children to reach maturity
well now you’re being antisemitic for saying that because it makes it sound like we want to kill kids
this is what i hate about zionism. it takes anti-semitic tropes and it packages them as being pro-jewish. they feed, not fight, hatred against jewish identity through this. and then, when jews feel scared in the communities where they are, israel says “we have a special place cordoned off just for people like you to be safe. all we have to do for you to move here is kill everyone there”
it’s a self fulfilling prophecy
Its so absurd and insidious that South Park had Kyle’s Mom go fully serious in explaining this to Netanyahu.
Instead, I thought about the ongoing genocide in Gaza and countless children who have been killed.
Which is almost definitely what they were talking about.
Asking someone to explain what they mean is totally valid
And no where near as effective or clear as explaining the situation… Because someone posting in bad faith would let it hang, but some legitimate posters might just not see it till much later, or even at all considering blocks.
Which brings up we don’t know if OPs screenshot was taken immediately after the last reply before they immediately lept to:
they would never explain how. the ambiguity is the point. disgusting hypocrisy
Which makes it sound like they specifically did not understand what was happening.
But I get the feeling this is one of those complicated things no one actually thinks about and just goes off feelings rather than logic. So even if they’re right, they still don’t understand why they’re right.
Yeah it’s even worse. Israelis are openly in public killing children as blood sacrifices and calling it self defense
No, because that’s not a blood sacrifice, and you’re still conflating Judaism with Israel, which is what Netenyahu and the woman from Twitter want to happen…
It’s pretty important, because if you don’t understand it fascist movements will keep abusing your ignorance to help their own propaganda, even tho you clearly disagree with it…
There’s also the huge risk of actual nazis who are intentionally doing what you’re doing and saying they’re commiting blood libel.
So now instead of talking about Israel committing genocide, nobody knows if your an actual Nazi or just spreading Nazi propaganda because you don’t know what the fuck is going on.
Like, does any of this make even a little sense?
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lol I’m Jewish buddy
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And Jewish people support trump too, why couldn’t a self-proffessed Jewish person legitimately believe Nazi propaganda?
You know that was literally going on during the actual Holocaust too, right? Why wouldn’t it be possible in 2025 when multiple high profile people fit that description?
Especially after you just did it in two comments in a row?
Israelis are openly in public killing children as blood sacrifices
killing children with glee with the specific intent to appease god and maintain their divine grant to the land of Israel
That’s straight up Nazi shit you’re repeating, and whatever religion you are doesn’t change that shit.
Go speak to some Israelis in confidence
This is not Nazi shit, it’s Zionist shit
They celebrate this crap behind closed doors and openly share their glee with other Jews until they realize you’re not on their side. Then they consider you a dangerous traitor to the Jewish people
They’re killing children in order to eliminate the population, not as some weird kind of sacrifice to God. After all, a sacrifice to God means you’re relinquishing something you consider valuable, and they clearly don’t value the lives of Palestinian children.
Some want to do it to eliminate future generations that want revenge
Some want to do it to expand Israeli’s power and territory, land is the most important resource to a state
Some want to do it because god has made their cause righteous and they are fulfilling a divine mandate in their seizure of the promised land
They aren’t a monolith in their depravity it’s true
Wait what? That’s an insane conclusion to draw! Why would anyone think that would be obvious?
That’s an insane conclusion to draw!
The people who assumed the person who mentioned blood libel… Was talking about blood libel…
Used such a leap in logic that you can’t even imagine how someone could make it?
Jesus…
I think I’m even more confused after reading all of this.
I know Miss Rachel is getting attacked for calling out the atrocities in Gaza, but what is all the blood libel stuff?
Sounds to me like we’ve just got someone upset that Miss Rachel is not asking for more kids to be killed, but you seem to believe there is something else going on?
but you seem to believe there is something else going on?
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Whoever Rachel is, she was clearly referencing Gaza and the ongoing genocide.
Eve then (likely intentionally) misunderstood and acted like Rachel was talking about Jewish blood libel. Which is a bigoted belief going back millenia that part of traditional Jewish religious rituals include child sacrifice.
Evan then “dared her to explain why that would be antisemitic”.
My point is that is not as effective as clarifying what was going on and why it’s not…
But I can admit when I’m wrong, clearly I was overestimating people.
I don’t think it was overestimating, more just not realizing that the term “blood libel” isn’t a widely recognized antisemitic concept. I know a lot of Jewish people and have never heard blood libel used that way.
I just read it as meaning some sort of lie revolving around death like “you’ve got blood on your hands” kind of thing.
Edit: Also thanks for the explaining your perspective to me.
I don’t think it was overestimating, more just not realizing that the term “blood libel” isn’t a widely recognized antisemitic concept
Yes…
I overestimated people by thinking if I explained what “blood libel” is, I didnt have to literally say “blood libel is___”
They’re implying the original tweet means threat to kids isn’t from the genocide, and instead it’s the bigoted (and false) stereotype that there are secret Jewish rituals that kill children as blood sacrifices.
When I said “bigoted (and false) stereotype…” You could substitute that for “blood libel”. I just pre-emptively explained it not everyone knew what it was.
And rather than ask questions, a bunch of confused people furrowed their brow and down voted.
But you asked questions, so now you know:
Blood libels often claim that Jews require human blood for the baking of matzos, an unleavened flatbread which is eaten during Passover. Earlier versions of the blood libel accused Jews of ritually re-enacting the crucifixion.[10] The accusations often assert that the blood of Christian children is especially coveted, and historically, blood libel claims have been made in order to account for the otherwise unexplained deaths of children.
Are you from space?
??
Reading these comments is starting to make me believe that I am hahaha
saying “these poor kids in palestine deserve to live” is NOT antisemitic NOR “blood libel” in any way, shape and form. seriously!
“well, by saying Palestinian children deserve to live, aren’t you saying israel is killing them? and, because as we all know, Jewish people and the state of israel are the same thing, you’re saying Jewish people are child killers!”
this is the logic these people operate on. i don’t know if they truly believe that israel is representative of all Jewish people, i don’t even know if they believe pro-Palestinian people believe that, but it doesn’t matter. because pretending that any criticism of israel is antisemitic helps muddy the water, helps distracting from the genocide israel is doing, helps israel keep its support ever so slightly longer.
the only people this rhetoric helps, besides obviously israel and its supporters, are actual antisemites, who now have an easier time than ever hiding behind the pro-Palestine movement. if someone points their antisemitism, thanks to zionists crying wolf, now you won’t know if it’s for real or not!
putting Jewish people on the altar of this disgusting rhetoric, all to defend a terrorist state murdering civilians. if hell exists, i hope they and the mass murderers they support rot in it for eternity.
i’m aware that jewish people are NOT the same as the country of israel, as there are jewish people who oppose israel and the country’s actions under netanyahu. seriously!
Iykyk type shit
The term “blood libel”, I don’t even know what it mean, to be honest, but I’ve never seen it used in a context that isn’t flat out ridiculous.
Blood Libel refers to the antisemitic trope that Jews eat Gentile babies. I doubt you can find anyone that thinks that now, but it was a very real rumor in the past and contributed to very real persecution across Europe
Nowadays they think Dems eat babies.
now
i think you’ll find that Oprah Winfrey peddled this in her Satanic Panic era.
I didn’t know that term either. Now that you’ve defined it, I’m trying to make sense of that commenter. The best I can come up with is “You’re not allowed to call out Israel for murdering children because in the past they were persecuted for a wrongful claim also involving murdered children.” Which is an absolute bonkers claim.
You have correctly interpreted it, it sounds bonkers because it is bonkers.
“Everyone said Jews used to eat babies which was really mean and lead to us being persecuted, now that Israelis who also claim to be Jews actually eat babies everyone is persecuting us for it. Do you want us to eat babies or not?!”
Your Government shouldn’t be killing children.
How dare you say I eat babies!
And you never will
blood libel is supposed to mean accusations that jewish people eat/drink blood (e.g. Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and one of the many factors that led to the current cultural idea of vampires). it’s often mistakenly applied to people describing Israel as “bloodthirsty”, but like, that term is universally used for evil of all different ethnicities and religions. that mistake then gets further abstracted into “being against genocide is blood libel”.
The term “blood libel”, I don’t even know what it mean, to be honest,
At least you kind of asked what it meant…
Would have been faster to look it up tho:
Blood libels often claim that Jews require human blood for the baking of matzos, an unleavened flatbread which is eaten during Passover. Earlier versions of the blood libel accused Jews of ritually re-enacting the crucifixion.[10] The accusations often assert that the blood of Christian children is especially coveted, and historically, blood libel claims have been made in order to account for the otherwise unexplained deaths of children. In some cases, the alleged victims of human sacrifice have become venerated as Christian martyrs. Many of these – most prominently William of Norwich (1144), Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (1255), and Simon of Trent (1475) – became objects of local cults and veneration; the cult of Hugh of Lincoln gained the support of Henry III and his son Edward I, giving it official credibility and helping it to be particularly well remembered. Although he was never canonized, the veneration of Simon was added to the General Roman Calendar. One child who was allegedly murdered by Jews, Gabriel of Białystok, was canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
It’s just wild to me that so many people would spend more time typing a comment admitting they were ignorant of something, than it takes to just search it online so they could stop being ignorant.
And it’s not just you, it’s happening more and more.
So since I provided a source for what blood libel actual is, can you share why you made that comment instead of just typing “blood libel” into a search engine?
It’s because we’re on a discussion forum, and discussing things, sometimes asking easily googleable questions, is kinda the point.
From the xitter bio of Eve Barlow:
Journalist. Zionist. Feminist. Scottish.
So, yeah.
Sounds like your average resident of TERF island.
i think we can all agree that we want cute little arab palestinian kids and jewish israeli kids to have long happy lives
amen
I think we should also extend that to the noncute children. Not their fault that they are not photogenic!
No. The ugly ones can wait in the car.
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Guaranteed that when she says she’s a journalist she means propagandist/shill, and when she says she’s a feminist she means TERF.
Music journalist. Not a war correspondent.
This is a blood libel!
Sounds like Eve’s more solid on the first three and kinda iffy on being from Scotland.
It’s shite being Scottish! They’re ruled by effete arseholes! It’s a shite state of affairs to be in, and all the fresh air in the world won’t make any fucking difference!
Oh Eve Fartlow
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Eve Fartlow 🤭
