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      The honesty of Nazis is a peculiar thing. In Sweden, the far-right party that the government collaborates with, who were started by literal ex-SS nazis and neo-nazis, have celebrated other ex-SS nazis, have worn swaztikas and so on. They have this “sociologist” guy whose argument for this party not being nazis anymore is basically “Look at Golden Dawn and other nazi organizations, they are open about them being nazis. Nazis are honest about being nazis. That is why the Sweden Democrats cannot be nazis, because if they were, they’d be open about it”.

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        Which is fucking stupid because the Nazis initially weren’t honest about being Nazis. There’s a reason they called it National Socialism and not National Killjews-ism.

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    Just to play with the idea: a Russian victory puts them closer to having to fight them themselves.

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    Actually, the leader of Blood Tribe, one of the main neo nazi groups in the USA supports Ukraine, and it’s simply because the nazis in Ukraine, and he likes that the USA is sending billions to nazis in Ukraine, and he’s on record stating as such, and ending speeches with a “SLAVA UKRAINE”

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      Too bad it appears the majority of Nazis tend to actually disagree with him and support Russia.

      Just look at Trump’s administration

      Look at Nick Fuentes

      There are Nazi elements in Ukraine like there are in a lot of former Soviet block countries, but its far from the majority, and far from the direction their gov leans.

      Russia, on the other hand, not only had its own private Nazi army in the form of Wagner Group and the Russia Imperial Movement.

      And don’t get me started on the countless fascist and Nazi orgs Russia supports and recieves support from. Ukraine doesn’t have such a rep.

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        Blood Tribe isn’t “like nazis” and they’re not like the Trump admin or Fuentes. They are literally neo Nazis. Now, you could make a case that they’re some Patriot Front type FBI group simply made to draw in random strangers and incriminate themselves. Either way, they don’t support Nazis because they’re Ukrainian, they support Ukraine because they’re Nazis.

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          What is that word salad you vomited onto this page.

          Understand that

          1. Blood Tribe is a Nazi gang, not a major Nazi faction.
          2. Actual major Nazi factions with millions of followers (MAGA, AFD, France’s National Rally Party, etc) all support Russia

          You’re disregarding the overwhelming evidence to your contrary, in favor of the views of a single, small, Nazi gang.

          We haven’t even touched on Putin’s massive campaign of international support for fascists, or the Wagner Group or Russian Imperial Movement

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          Do you think that Ukraine should fall to Russia? It’s hard to understand your framing otherwise, even if you are right about Nazis.

          Why the fuck can Russia just invade countries and take over territory?

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            No, I just think we shouldn’t send billions of dollars of weapons to Nazis. Ukrainians don’t need to die to raise the stock prices of our MIC, nazis or not.

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      You are technically correct thus invalidating this meme 100%.

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        https://x.com/michaeljknowles/status/1759042756536656020?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1759042756536656020%7Ctwgr%5E7bd53938321da3a4ef614e795e2a23fdb6cd75c3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.themainewire.com%2F2024%2F02%2Fpro-biden-neo-nazi-who-fled-maine-after-receiving-criticism-makes-an-unimpressive-showing-in-tennessee%2F don’t come after me for that link. Yes I know, fuck musk, fuck Knowles, and fuck nazis. It’s just that the video has been scrubbed from so many places, but you’re welcome to search about it, should still find text format in some reputable sources.

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            I’m not sure what that means, but yes? X was Twitter. That’s the link I gave you.

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          You are way out of your depth if you’re going to school anyone on who are Nazis, and you’re going to use Nazi propaganda on a Nazi propaganda hosting platform to do it.

          Just because you said “yeah I know fuck Nazis”, doesn’t mean that you aren’t doing exactly what has just been outlined above.

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    Tbf to Russia, during “operation gladio” the CIA funded ultra far right nationalist paramilitaries all across Europe which they paid for by running the heroine game out of Myanmar in collusion with the sicilian mob. It’s the main reason for the rise of the far right all across Europe.

    To be real with Russia, the idea that they could de-nazify another country when they couldn’t even do it to themselves is a sick joke. However, the best lies have a grain of truth to them.

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      “BuT tHeY aRe ThE nAtIoNaLiSt socialists So ThEy MuSt Be LuBrEeLs” - these dipshits, while declaring themselves white nationalists

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    Why is the governing party of Ukraine centre while Russia is far-right.

    Not to mention how the little country treats queer people way better.

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    russia DIDN’T realize that ukraine’s president is a jewish person named volodymyrr zelensky (which is fine, there’s NOTHING wrong with being a jewish person). seriously!

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    Because the Nazi ideology is no globalistic in the sense that Russians can think they are the “master race” and Ukrainians can think that they are the “master race”.

    That said, “fighting again Nazis” is just Russian propaganda.