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This makes me so immediately enraged every single time.
There’s advantages to saving documents to the cloud for backups.
Severely limiting that space by default and then preventing you from saving files when it runs out is horseshit. Half the computer problems I’ve fixed recently are all caused by OneDrive running out of space.
My sister wanted to know why her Sims saves were disappearing. Turns out OneDrive was full and the saves were being backed up to it. No space = no more saving apparently.
Wow, that’s really garbage. Why is MS trying so hard to push Linux?
Because they know most people won’t move to Linux. Most people will stick with whatever absolute garbage they know and will just be annoyed when things continue to degrade, but they won’t leave.
Ah, the battered domestic partner business model.
OneDrive needs a PSA that it’s a share drive, not extra storage.
No no you misunderstand-- It’s primary storage. Your 1TB hard drive is merely a local cache for the $70 OneDrive plan that you for some reason haven’t subscribed to yet, but don’t worry, you’ll get lots of reminders to.
On the other hand saves shouldn’t be saved into fucking documents folder in the first place. Or it shouldn’t be used by any other program unless explicitly allowed to. The only time I see people actually using Documents folder according to its purpose is at work.
Honestly this practice comes down to Windows never standardizing a location for user generated files related to a program. We might finally be there with
appdatabut even that is poorly standardized (what goes into~/appdata/roaming/vs~/appdata/local/etc.) and most backup software ignores despite game saves being very important. My Saved Games still exists but it’s more surprising when a game actually uses it than anything. And of course really old software would just store the saves right next to the install files, therefore requiring the program to have admin access, and running everything as admin is always a great idea.
Well if you fill up the space you pay for… What is OneDrive supposed to do if you try to add more files? How would it pick which ones to upload to the cloud and which ones not to? It would be pretty annoying if it just let you keep adding data locally but stopped uploading it imo.
It should stop uploading new files, and visibly notify the user that their cloud storage is full.
It should not start silently deleting your data after you save something, especially because OneDrive likes to “replace” your Documents folder as it were.
Imagine you work really hard on some important document, save it, and then OneDrive lovingly deletes it for you with no way to get it back because you ran out of cloud storage. Instead of, you know, just keeping it stored on your local storage and telling you it can’t upload it?
Because that’s what it does now. Just deletes your stuff. OneDrive loses you more files than it saves. Terrible product and always the first thing I uninstall.
I’m gonna need a source for that.
I’m really sceptical that OneDrive syncs your documents, deletes them from your computer and then deletes them from OneDrive. That sounds bizarre.
It doesn’t delete them from OneDrive, because they never get uploaded. If you max out the storage on OneDrive, then have a program write to that folder, it looks like everything is fine but OneDrive then deletes it once it notices no space is left.
It’s anecdotal, but I’ve seen it do this myself.
Perhaps to clarify: OneDrive folders exist both locally and in the cloud. If OneDrive is full, programs can still write to the local folder (nothing OneDrive can do to prevent that) so they don’t error or anything, but once OneDrive fails to upload the file just goes poof.
When you need to add anti features (like poor error case handling like this or the whole “auto save only works if the file is on one drive!”) to encourage users to upgrade their product, it’s a sign the service doesn’t offer enough value on its own.
Which is funny because cloud storage is a good idea on its own but it’s been so enshitified in Microsoft’s case that I don’t trust what they are doing behind the scenes. Like they could be training AIs on everyone’s cloud data for all we know to make a few extra bucks.
If you don’t control your data you don’t control your data… The cloud is just someone else’s computer… Back up your shit and keep some of those backups offsite but keep everything under your own control…
“If you don’t control your data, you don’t control your data…”, statement of the century. But yes we all should be taken care of our own data, and building up systems to help those who can’t
Linux doesn’t make you jump through this hoop 🐧🫡🇺🇸
You know, I use Linux at work but use windows at home. I’ve been thinking of switching for a while. I think the thing that is going to push me over the edge is the difficulty that I have saving a file to my own god damned computer.
I love automatic backups to the cloud WHEN I CHOOSE TO USE THEM! I’m tired of Microsoft essentially holding my data for ransom, though.
Welp, they’re never going to stop, and they’re always going to get more intrusive. Linux is better than it has ever been! Give it a whirl. I suggest Pop!_OS for people who don’t want to mess with their system, and Arch for people who love messing with their system.
Edit: Fedora is a nice middle-ground.
I’m on Garuda. For gaming, I think it’s an ideal option. It’s Arch based but comes with everything set up for gaming, and tools to install whatever you may need. I think it comes with the AUR set up automatically too (or it’s an option that’s easy at least), which isn’t necessary, but it does have some things you may want/need for modding and certain (very few) non-steam games. I think RuneLite for Runescape I got from the AUR, or something like that.
I haven’t tried Pop, and Fedora is alright though I personally didn’t care for it as much.
That’s an “I use Arch BTW”, just with extra steps…
Fewer steps because it comes set up with a ton of stuff, but yeah.
Arch is (in)famous for how much you need to do yourself, but Garuda takes care of most of this.
You can make cloud backups whenever you choose on Linux whenever you want, even to OneDrive.
So far I’ve never had Bazzite nor Mint nor any of my software there force me to put things anywhere.
Just know the Microsoft Office suite and Adobe’s software don’t really work on Linux systems.
I have a cheap laptop that I got solely for school to run their anti cheat Spyware for online tests. I hadn’t turned it on since I updated it and it forced me to make a hotmail/outlook account or I couldn’t use the laptop to take my test. Assholes almost made me late for it. Fuck microsoft.
If i can get guild wars 2 to run on Linux I won’t need windows anymore
Edit : sorry for the confusion. I have linux running. The next step is to work on gw2. It’s the only thing remaining.
May I ask for further clarification on when you tried when running the game?
I haven’t tried Guild Wars 2 on Linux however it seems like it works according to ProtonDB.
Sorry I should have been more clear. I have mint linux installed. The speakers and the headset works. When I get a chance I need to work on gw2. It’s the last step. Sorry for the confusion.
I think all you have to do is add it to Steam as a non-Steam game and then run it with Proton.
Or add it to Lutris, then it’s also click-and-play without needing an account with another proprietary service that needs to run in the background.
Ok have steam installed. Have steam set to the newest proton version.
To add the game as a non steam game :
Click games then click add a non-steam game to my library
Not sure where to go from here.
Do I download the game from arena net?
Sorry for the dumb questions
I should add I didn’t get the game from steam. I bought the game on a disc years ago when it first came out.
Installing Guild Wars 2 on Linux can be done using Steam’s Proton compatibility layer or by adding the game as a non-Steam game. Here’s how to achieve this:
Option 1: Install Guild Wars 2 via Steam using Proton
- Enable Steam Play for all titles:
Open Steam and go to Settings.
Navigate to Steam Play.
Enable the checkbox Enable Steam Play for all other titles and select the latest Proton version from the dropdown.
- Download Guild Wars 2 setup:
Go to the official Guild Wars 2 website and download the Windows installer (Gw2Setup.exe).
- Add Guild Wars 2 as a non-Steam game:
Open Steam.
Go to Games > Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library.
Click Browse and locate the Gw2Setup.exe file you downloaded.
Add it to your library.
- Force compatibility with Proton:
Locate the added Gw2Setup.exe in your Steam library.
Right-click it and select Properties.
Under the Compatibility section, check Force the use of a specific Steam Play compatibility tool and select the latest Proton version.
- Run the Guild Wars 2 installer:
Launch the added game from Steam. The installer will open.
Install the game in a desired directory.
- Configure the game executable:
Once installed, replace the shortcut for Gw2Setup.exe with the actual game executable (e.g., Gw2-64.exe) by right-clicking the entry in Steam, going to Properties, and editing the Target field.
- Play the game:
Launch the game through Steam. Proton will handle compatibility.
OK, I got it installed, the game ran because once it finished installing it Offered me the option of going right into the game, which I took and I played the game.
And then exited the game, but now I am looking at steam I’ve clicked on library, in the left-hand column shows The Guild wars, two install executable. I write clicked on it, which brings up the shortcut window for Guild wars, two, the shortcut. I changed the target to the actual executable for the game.
I then look in the compatibility tab in that same window, it still says” Force the use of a specific steam play compatibility tool” And I am using proton 9.0–3
I hit the X in that window, in the right hand side of the window or more centered. It shows Guild wars two, because I renamed shortcut and right below is a big green rectangle that says play, I click it and for a moment it says running, but the game does not run, it just stays at the steam window and the game doesn’t launch.
I’m hoping you can figure out what I’ve done wrong.
Got to step five. Got stuck. I’ll send details tomorrow. I will get five hours of sleep at this point.
Thank you. I will work on this tomorrow. I need to get some sleep.
You can also use one of the many Launchers if you don’t want to add it to Steam as a non-steam game. Alternatively, you can also launch it directly with proton/wine yourself, though this is the most annoying option.
Is there any side effect of adding it to steam as a non steam game?
For example on the windows side would I now need to do the same?
No. It’s fine to do.
Yeah, too many little details to remember in the manual option.
That said, it’s worth it to learn how to do it by hand if only for the handful of games that won’t just run when launched from a Launcher like Lutris and you have to manually read the logs and then tweak the config or just because there some interesting advanced features in the various adaptor layers we’re using that aren’t mapped to config options in the Launcher - for example, just yesterday I discovered how to get DXVK - the layer than translates DirectX calls to Vulkan calls - to overlay various pieces of useful or interesting information such as FPS and CPU load on screen (in what’s called the DXVK Hud) on the game during play and because I understood how it was launching Windows games a while ago I figured out how to get Lutris to default to launch games inside a firejail sandbox which disables networking and blocks system level access.
figured out how to log in
Now to install proton dB…if I can find the install program.
It runs without a problem via steam for me on Linux mint. I don’t know how to do whatever setup steam does manually, but you can just launch it through steam and sign in with your anet account. (There’s a config option to open the login window instead of using your steam account for login)
Have you tried playing nethack instead?
Or maybe Dink Smallwood?
There’s numerous howtos out there, and it works like a charm.
Just add it to Steam/Lutris and go, it’s not worth an entire blog post or video about.
I did not want to put it this way, but essentially: this.
My employer doesn’t care what you think.
Debian, LMDE, Suse, Fedora, whatever. Just pick one and go for it.
Steam Cloud: You dumb bitch.
I’ve got it disabled and in offline mode and it still yells at me that it can’t sync saves with the cloud.
Yeah, I fucking know, that was the idea.
Are you worried about a copy of your saved games in the cloud? I’ve had mine on for years and it makes moving to a new computer super easy.
Aside from not liking being dependent on a internet connection in the first place and tinfoil hat stuff, it was doing something weird with a partition on my old computer so I just disabled the whole thing and didn’t look back.
Hates cloud, runs steam…
It’s not actually necessary, they’re just really bitchy about taking no for an answer.
It’s more than Steam is an internet based distribution system. You can’t use steam WITHOUT an internet connection.
If you call the Internet the Cloud I will find you.
NetBSD also runs on lowspec hardware
But we need to harvest your data for…reasons
Otherwise our profits might suffer! Wouldn’t that be terrible?
The biggest irony in all of this is that the integration is so much better on Mac than windows. I think it’s because it’s less aggressive/less ingrained but the one drive,m365, whatever integration on my work Mac is night and day better than the windows machine I had.
I couldn’t stand it. And don’t get me started on team’s weird SharePoint backend or whatever the fuck they have going on.
Part of it is Apple putting the smack down on cloud storage and forcing them to all go to the same place, which is ~/CloudStorage/<>, and follow some semblance of a standard. They don’t get to do whatever the hell they want on OSX. People can hate Apple all day, I get it, but some things I appreciate, even if it is super irritating at first.
FUCK dont get me started on SHAREPOINT I just want to reference a single cell from another LIST why would I want ALL THE ROWS
I have PTSD flashbacks of SharePoint and the ten step process we had to use to interact with it. Then in literally every meeting, “why didn’t you read the SharePoint file on that?”
I am presently working on a presentation for a group of people with average age 57. I need them to start storing files online. My options are windows shared folders, which requires a domain joined PC, of which I have a single loaner for about 80 people, and a VPN connection … or SharePoint, fml, fuck my life ever so badly.
Alternatively you could go with the email exchange system
Presentation-FINALv3js-legalapproved-v2-11-18-24-redacted.ppt
foobar_v2_with_johns_edits_final_v3_final_final_5.docx this is gonna suck soooo bad
That sounds like a future tech community tell all story in the making.
More like the amazing tale of how the IT guy survived actively drinking himself to death until his mid 40s. It’s been told over and over and over again.
Ha. For a long time, Sharepoint would always ask me to log in, even though I had successfully logged into my laptop and was on the VPN and all of that. I finally called the help desk, and they couldn’t figure it out, so they contacted their Sharepoint support, and they couldn’t figure it out either.
Eventually, I needed a new laptop…and that fixed the problem.
Remember SharePoint is just Visual SourceSafe for documents, with a bad editor .
Anyone who’s worked with VSS will have the PTSD to know what’s going to happen. We don’t know when you’re going into lose eveything, but we know it’ll happen. MS rolling their own bad CVS is like MS rolling their own email infrastructure.
You mean Outlook, originally known as Hotmail?
Exchange, formerly known as “what if we made an email server, but it’s database is Microsoft Access?”
Missing a few “got dangs” in there
I tell you h’what that bing ain’t right…
F12 to save
Yeah well, good luck getting autosave to work now. If you don’t comply, you lose your privileges.
Is this on Windows 11? On 10 I can still direct it to an offline area of my drive.
To be fair people massively misunderstand OneDrive. It’s not an extra storage space, it’s a file sharing space. Which is incredibly useful in a work environment.
If you don’t save your office docs to onedrive, you can’t turn on auto save.
Huh, I just haven’t used word in forever. I booted it up just to see, and yeah that’s ridiculous.
Look at them noobs who don’t know that you can tell One Drive to always keep a local copy of the files it backs up.
By default it deletes your own files off your hard disk?
It keeps the online copy and that’s it
That is an absolutely wild default!
Wait hold up that makes it worse!
Yeah, when you save a new file it’s automatically uploaded, if you don’t have a connection it will save it locally and wait until you have a connection to upload/delete.
Kinda suck when you realize you don’t have any local copies and no internet, so I always turn the option to keep a local copy On.
My guy just don’t use OneDrive at all but something else instead!
Why are you putting up with something so invasive?Want me to install any random software on government property?
if you’ve never had a windows update forcably change your settings, then consider yourself lucky.
That’s how Microsoft works. You’ll build the work flow now, and then they’ll slowly change the default. They will do this with all of their defaults, for a longer time than you will pay attention.
Keep everything local is a great strategy until your house burns down or your hard drive or SSD decides to end it’s own life.
I’m not saying that you should use one drive. I’m saying that you should have backups. If all you can get is cloud storage, then one drive might fit the bill. Maybe it won’t. I don’t know you or what you want from a backup.
I back up my files to a NAS on my lan, but I also use one drive and Google drive when I need to.
All I’m trying to say is: one drive isn’t necessarily the worst option. Raw dogging a single local storage drive as your only copy of the data you’re trying to hold onto, is much worse than one drive.
Other than that, I’ll just reiterate: back up your shit. And I want to add, check your bitlocker to see if it’s on. If it is, back up your recovery key to somewhere safe. Bitlocker, in and of itself isn’t a bad thing. I would argue that it’s best practice to have some kind of FDE, and bitlocker can achieve that. Just back up the recovery key, for the love of God.
Pro tip. “Print” the recovery to a PDF, then email that file to yourself. Quick and easy. The option to save your recovery key to a file, will not allow that file to be saved to the drive that it unlocks, but if you print it, you can save it as PDF without the same limitations. Just don’t leave it on the encrypted drive. Literally put it anywhere else. A USB drive, a NAS, an email, cloud storage, whatever you like. I’m not your boss.
Save yourself a metric fuckton of work, and/or lost data; back up your shit.
EDIT, some words (auto carrot), also, WTF? I’m being down voted for saying you should have backups? I expect better from lemmings.
Related, I’m a sysadmin, and I work in IT, and I approve this message. Back up your shit.
In my possession are two, what I’ll call “master” drives. Two 16TB hard drives, exact clones of each other. They hold the bulk media, old photos, an entire library of books, backups with full emulator and rom sets, games, movies, series, Wikipedia backups, encyclopedias, cookbooks, plant guides, carpentry, mechanics, howtos, compressed into the tiniest dots my processor can manage.
Aside from being a backup for my personal files and configurations, It’s essentially an arc of knowledge for societal collapse, granted laser-focused around what I find important, but still, important to someone.
My cousin, who I consider my brother, has a copy of this drive in a small, foam-padded pelican case in his closet. He keeps it for me just in case of a house fire, displacement, or any dangerous situation that renders any of the data at my actual home inaccessible.
While the drives aren’t a perfect clone of my network’s configurations as-is, that backup runs locally, the drives are 80% of the content I serve and would get me 80% of the way back to complete if anything ever happened. They would individually be invaluable if anything ever happened here or I had a Donnie Darko situation, especially if it’s some authoritarian hellscape and the content isn’t even available anymore.
Btw if you aren’t ramping up your data collection due to the Trump goings on, you better be. Download EVERYTHING.
NOW.
RIGHT NOW.
I just have an extra server at a family member’s house and planing on having another at a different location
