“garbage account”
I don’t know, I’ve used chatGPT and have reviewed the sources it uses. Saying Reddit is a “primary source” is blatantly dishonest. Not that dishonesty matters to people like that guy.
AI doesn’t exist. This is like asking an atheist why they hate god.
If you’re talking about LLMs and the like, they’re unpopular on Lemmy because tech people are over represented here and tech people understand how these technologies work and why all the hype isn’t just false, but malicious.
You mean a bunch of advertising and media companies that control and gatekeep the news are hyping something that’s making them trillions of dollars? That seems… so unbelievable!
Isn’t the “AI” boom making very little for the companies hawking it and making trillions for the hardware providers? I feel like it’s analogous to the people that sold shovels & pickaxes during the gold rush.
If artificial intelligence doesn’t exist explain Reddit.
Check mate Atheist.
Natural stupidity.
No sign of intelligence there.
Game, set and match… believer?
Today my boss asked me why Gemini suggested made up columns when he was trying to query our database. I just told him it also makes up fake tables.
This shit is half baked and really never should have been foisted on the public.
This shit has cost the investors untold money, and it was promised to revolutionize the world, so by golly it will, by force if it must.
if ai doesn’t exist then who is playing against me when i set the other civilizations to ai in rise of nations
Oh, that’s me. Microsoft gave me backdoor access to your computer so I can play against you.
using linux doesn’t protect me when i still run microsoft games on it i guess. it’s poetic in a way.
I know you’re meming, but in Civilization (as in most games), you’re playing against predefined scripts and algorithmic rules that the computer opponent has, as well as having cheaper costs for resources than the user at higher difficulty levels - because it cannot compete with a skilled human player at that level (it literally cheats).
No LLM, no neural network, no deep learning… not ‘AI’ in the modern sense that’s being discussed here.
It’s not predefined though. The rules of the game are but not its actions. It observes the environment and changes its behavior based on that. That’s narrow intelligence and thus meeting the criteria of AI.
A chess player isn’t not-intelligent either just because it’s bound by the rules of the game.
It is absolutely predefined - if you make the same moves it will give you the same results, every time. Same as playing ChessMaster 2000 from 1986.
It may narrowly fit into the broad definition of ‘AI’ (like, since the 70s) but that’s not what’s being discussed in this thread.
Believe what you like though.
No, it’s not predefined - chess has about 10^120 possible games. That’s astronomically large number which is way too vast to pre-store or hardcode. It’s intelligence through computation, not a script.
Believe what you like though.
“Script” in a computer programming sense. An algorithm. So general behavior is most likely predefined. So not a script in a sense that it always does the same thing. This just means its behavior is most likely described using “if” statements. Eg. “If oponent did this, respond with that…” Algorithm can also “remember” some actions and act based on that. However the AI is most probably not activeley learning from your actions. It has all the knowledge predefined.
Some more advanced algorithms utilize some self learning principles. Buy this is very rare in games since this is resource intensive.
But even machine learning is not AI. Even LLM is not AI. But at least LLM became a synonym for AI in recent years.
AI has existed for decades. The chessbot on Atari is an AI.
What doesn’t exist is AGI but that’s not synonymous with AI. Most people just don’t know the right terms here and bunch it all together as if it was all one thing.
If one is expecting a large language model designed to generate natural sounding language to be generally intelligent like an sci-fi AI assistant then no wonder they find it lacking. They’re expecting autonomous driving from a cruise control.
AI is only looks good if you’re an outsider to the profession. The moment you’re even an amateur, you’ll see all of its faults. It’s just a plagiarizing machine with a built-in contextual search function (any AI model that runs as an actual contextual search instead of a wannabe assistant with a flattering personality?), that can make some crappy looking and weirdly specific clip art, stock music with funny-sounding gimmicks, and buggy code you’d better plagiarize from public domain licensed code from Github.
Block all Bots
We should program bots to feel pain when they get blocked.
We could call it… “Artificial Emotions,” or AE.
I don’t.
c/fuck_ai sure does
I’m not c/fuck_ai
Who are you?
They’re what you should do after peeing.
Shake and apply slight pressure below your balls?
I like AI. It’s a very useful tool.
I don’t hate AI (specifically LLMs and image diffusion thingy) as a technology. I don’t hate people who use AI (most of the time).
I do hate almost every part of AI business, though. Most of the AI stuff is hyped by the most useless “luminaries” of the tech sector who know a good profitable grift when they see one. They have zero regard for the legal and social and environmental implications of their work. They don’t give a damn about the problems they are causing.
And that’s the great tragedy, really: It’s a whole lot of interesting technology with a lot of great potential applications. And the industry is getting run to the ground by idiots, while chasing an economic bubble that’s going to end disastrously. It’s going to end up with a tech cycle kind of similar to nuclear power: a few prominent disasters, a whole lot of public resentment and backlash, and it’ll take decades until we can start having sensible conversations about it again. If only we would have had a little bit of moderation to begin with!
The only upside AI business has had was that at least it has pretended to give a damn about open source and open access to data, but at this point it’s painfully obvious that to AI companies this is just a smoke screen to avoid getting sued over copyright concerns - they’d lock up everything as proprietary trade secrets if they could have their way.
As a software developer, I was first super excited about genAI stuff because it obviously cut down the time needed to consult references. Now, a lot of tech bosses tell coders to use AI tools even in cases that’s making everyone less productive.
As an artist and a writer I find it incredibly sad that genAI didn’t hit the brakes a few years ago. I’ve been saying this for decades: I love a good computerised bullshit generator. Algorithmically generated nonsense is interesting. Great source of inspiration for your ossified brain cells, fertile grounds for improvement. Now, however, the AI generated stuff pretends to be as human-like as possible, it’s doing a terrible job at it. Tech bros are half-assedly marketing it as a “tool” for artists, while the studio bosses who buy the tech chuckle at that and know they found a replacement for the artists. (Want to make genAI tools for artists? Keep the output patently unusable out of the box.)
I’m hopeful that when the bubble pops it’ll be more like the dot com crash, which is to say that the fallout is mostly of the economic variety rather than the superfund variety. Sure, that’ll still suck in the short term. But it will ideally lead to the big players and VC firms backing away and leaving behind an oversupply of infrastructure and talent that can be soaked up at fire sale prices by the smaller, more responsible companies that are willing to stick out the downturn and do the unglamorous work of developing this technology into something that’s actually sustainable and beneficial to society.
That’s my naive hope. I do recognize that there’s an unfortunately high probability that things won’t go that way.
The value in LLMs is in the training and the data quality… so it is easy to publish the code and charge for access to the data (DaaS).
Lol. For me I just get impatient with AI. Most of the time the things I tried to use it for, it either couldn’t do, did poorly or did wrong. It was simply easier for me to do the shit myself instead of burning the planet by doing 50 prompts to get one useful result.
I tried it, learned about the environmental costs and then I stopped using it. The only thing its good for is for super basic bitch translations like that one time I didn’t know what a particular mathematical formular was like in English and I couldn’t find an answer after searching manually for awhile.
That’s the only time AI was helpful to me.
And honestly, I just don’t trust that is can help me with what I need it for 99% of the time because it just makes shit up constantly. I can’t justify using this tool when the only useful result I ever gave me was the correct way to say a mathematical formulae in English. That is just too fucking weak. I am much better at looking for answers myself, writing and drawing things than any AI will ever be because I know what the fuck I want and I can make it myself while the AI has no idea what it’s doing and only looks good to people who has zero reading comprehension nor visual literacy.
Like, I think AI music can be pretty good but I’m also a musical retard and I have no idea how to listen to music like a real musician, so to me it sounds good, but to someone who knows what they are doing, I’m sure AI music sounds like ass.
That’s me with AI writing and artwork.
Not sure about “hate”, but it’s clearly a bubble and all the billions are going into AI and not things that could prevent an economic downturn.
Even if you’re not opposed to it for copyright or environmental or social reasons, AI is currently wrecking markets and finances for the next decade.
It poses a threat to the freedom of the people, as well as to human life. Just watch the interview what billionaires say.
I don’t hate AI. I just hate the untrustworthy rich fucks who are forcing it down everyones throats.
garbage account // garbage post ?
I dunno who’d ever want to use that font as an override for the default.
maybe its a genuine question… maybe theyre asking why do you hate ai, not why do you hate ai
In any case, it’s brilliant satire.
It is definitely very American in its defaulting to racism as the core of its satire.
Anything the billionaire cabal pushes on us I automatically hate. Don’t even need to know what it is. If they are pushing it you know there is some nefarious shit under the hood.
I hate his flannel shirts and the way he’d always show the show’s mailing address whenever Tim said something stupid.
Why is being confidently wrong considered an exclusive or primary trait of white males, and why would anyone attribute this behavior primarily to their gender or race?
Needlessly divisive identity politics that gets spread around a lot in the form of tweets/articles/memes because it’s controversial.
We need some “everybody love everybody” and some Jesus-style politics, instead of all this identity politics whatnot.
The post says nothing about exclusivity. Just attributing it to his own race but not at the exclusion of others.
It’s built on ‘slave’ labor, illegal use of content and additionally using unbelievable amounts of power so the environmental concerns go right out of the window at a time where we should do everything to not do that.
Also, AI, even if it’s the currently established term has absolutely nothing to do with neither intelligence nor sentience but is being sold as AGI (overpromised).
This has caused huge masses of investment to gather which will pop at some point, causing all of us massive issues due to the missteps of a few.
…additionally using unbelievable amounts of power so the environmental concerns go right out of the window at a time where we should do everything to not do that.
Don’t forget that the enormous energy usage is driving up energy costs for absolutely everyone.
Residential retail electricity prices in September were up 7.4%, to about 18 cents per kilowatt hour, according to the most recent data from the Energy Information Administration.
That’s on a national basis too. If you happen to live in an area with a lot of data centers, your energy costs have probably risen more than that.
Absolutely. That is by all means not an exhaustive list. The shit pile is much higher than that and I regularly forget half of it.
Oh yeah and long term it will cause a massive issue in the workforce since now the junior positions are basically removed and supposedly replaced by AI (but that’s just a very convenient excuse) and at some point we’ll run out of experienced people.
For this the tech bros envision and sell the upcoming AGI which will never arrive though based on this technology as every expert will currently confirm.
But what do they care about messing it up for all of us, they’re already the richest there are so sucks to be us.
Is copying an mp3 slavery as well?
They are talking about ‘Mechanical Turks’ who step in when the LLM falters who are paid slave wages.
Nowhere regarding the mp3 codec (afaik, of course) there are masses of low wage workers required for data tagging for it to work. So no.
