“It wasn’t because Biden voters shifted to Trump—but because so many of them stayed home.”

We must not repeat this same mistake again. Remember to always vote in every election and consider volunteering to knock on doors. It can make a difference. There are elections that are decided with just a small number of votes.

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    Way to Win pointed to three main problems that cost Democrats last year: Voters were upset not just about rising prices but about longer-term economic trends, and wanted change; Republicans and the far right have a built-in media advantage, thanks to years of investments, which made it harder for Democrats to break through; and movements on the left around issues like Gaza, racial and economic justice, and immigration weren’t aligned with the party.

    Yea… Close…Not quite though. Basically, YOU HAVE TON FUCKING ACT YOU DIP SHITS! Do real things people can fucking believe in.

    As it stand I still want both sides out of all the offices. When you actually represent me and the voters… Not some corporate lobby group, PAC, or persons with more money than sense but “We The People”, then I might vote for you.

    Mamdani is a good start… If he follows through.

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      It’s cute that all the liberals on .world learned this new word for which to blame all their problems

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      Nah, this is about the people lacking the opportunity and/or motivation to bother to vote, more like apathetic rather than the much more active tankie. They may be loud here, but they are relatively rare.

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      Trump had a primary that he led in consistently. Kamala ran a weak campaign, but in the end, Kamala’s name was on the ballot. Also, neither Kamala nor Trump could impact policy without the permission of Congress, which is occupied primarily by Republicans who each ran for that seat.

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    If the next Dem presidential candidate would refrain from getting buddy buddy with Republicans it would be a lot easier to put in the effort to overcome voter suppression.

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      Well, I think there’s definitely good reason to reach out to voters of all stripes. Including Republicans. But voters are different than politicians. By reaching out and inviting the politicians who enable the damage in amongst them. They just make themselves complicit.

      Democrats would do much better if they reached out to their own voters at all. Not just dismiss them and pal around with other out of touch politicians.

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        I can appreciate not wanting Lucifer to win but the average person doesn’t get motivated by lesser of the two evils, its not enough. The other guy has to make them want to get off their ass. Obama made people want to get out and vote. Trump did too, as much as I don’t like to admit it.

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            I don’t think that puts enough blame on the assholes with money who are taking advantage of the system and intentionally tipping the scales

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              And one way they tip the scales is by pusing the message that, if the Democratic Partty candidate is less than perfect, don’t vote. And meanwhile, corrupt, bloodthirsty criminals on the R side get a free pass. And the purists are too stupid to see that.

              And I say this in full awareness of the DNC’s role in gutting the effectiveness of the Democratic Party as an agent of change.

              Vote the lesser evil if that’s all there is. But also organize and drive corporate shills out of the party leadership.

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            I gotta imagine a fair amount of opposition to stuff like early voting or vote by mail is rooted in the idea that the easier we make it the more likely folks will vote for the lesser evil.

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          the average person doesn’t get motivated by lesser of the two evils

          A huge number of choices in life are just that. So suck it up, Buttercup.

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            If the voting public could be convinced of that Republicans would cease to be a viable party due to overwhelming voter turnout. But, well, Gestures to the last potus election

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            Problem is they know millions of votes are happening, and so how much does their vote really matter? Taking the time out of their life to stand in a long line to cast a single vote among millions… Doesn’t seem like it matters and other people will take care of it for them.

            When they have something to bite for, they want to be a part of something. If it’s just about making sure the worst stays out, it’s a poorly motivated chore.

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    It wasn’t that so many stayed home, it’s that 2020 numbers were inflated by vote by mail allowances for Covid.

    If folks hadn’t been allowed to vote by mail in 2020, Biden would have lost.

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    We kinda knew that anyways. Those people thought “ahhh, there couldn’t possibly be that enough people to vote Trump again” and didn’t vote until the fact broke out to them on election day.

    And it’s going to be an even harder pitch for Democrats if they keep pussy-footing the way that they have lately.

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    Kamala’s not Good Enough

    So you get Trump

    "With every mistake We must surely Be learning "
    -George Harrison

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    And WHY DID PEOPLE STAY HOME?

    I assure you that it is the party’s job to inspire people to vote and not the people’s job to inspire the party.

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      Eh, really there should be a sort of virtuous cycle happening in that regard. But for sure it is the fault of the party here for choosing big money over its constituents

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        The party IS big money. The government IS big money. They didn’t chose. It’s structural. They literally cannot choose.

        A party that is of the masses, by the masses, and for the masses is called a communist party.

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      It is literally the people’s job to keep an insane lunatic from running the country. Because we didn’t the loss of USAID is going to net 5 figure deaths including many kids. Tell the thousands of kids you whacked sorry.

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      And it’s the people’s responsibility to vote.

      Both failed. I definitely blame the losers who didn’t show up as much as anyone else, though.

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        Well keep in mind those “losers” might have a job that conflicts with their polling hours and have restrictive absentee ballots. It’s much easier for, say, retirees to vote than working poor.

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      Partially because of relentless messaging on social media claiming that it was the only moral thing to do.

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    Biden had Covid votes, that is likely why he won at all, not because a moderate candidate is a winner.

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        One things was clearly rooted in evidence, the reduced participation on voting.

        I feel like the rest might have been a bit more Shakey ground.

        In 2020, the working poor were largely not going into jobs and also had easiest access to voting. They were both easiest to vote and everyone was pissed that the pandemic sucked, so they were able to and motivated to vote.