Sorry guys, this got out of hand. I’m going to go ahead and lock it. We got some trolling going on.
Edit: Not as bad as I first thought. I’m unlocking it. I think people need to start using the /s tag more often. It’ll be good for practice over the holidays.
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What’s wrong with carrying a swiss army knife? I always have it with me. It’s been with me at all my dates. No tree carving, though.
Better luck next time, homey
This thread reminds me — I need to get my machete sharpened.
(unrelated note — I still think one of the funniest lines in Nacho Libre is the kid saying “This was my Grandmother’s machete.”)
Why are people so weirded out by one of the oldest tools we have?
I agree.
Boy Scouts used to get jack knives in 3rd grade.
My pacifist mom brought me all the guns I wanted when I was a kid; by the time I was about 12 I decided guns were for little boys and put all of mine away. Never felt the need to own one.
My pacifist mom brought me all the guys I wanted when I was a kid
nice
Edited, and you have a filthy mind.
My pacifist mom brought me all the guys I wanted when I was a kid
Um…
Edited, thanks for being pervy
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and put all of mine away
Mines too?!
The landmine is a purely defensive weapon, unlike a gun.
Depends on how you use the gun. But that’s the thing about landmines, you “plant” them rather than “use” them, and pure fate alone is the arbiter of the mine’s “use.” Landmines kill indiscriminately, they don’t care what team you’re on, how old you are, if you’re even a combatant at all or just a 6yo civilian child, but a gun at least requires a person to make the decision to act or not. It is for this reason that I contend while guns can be (not always are) used morally, landmines cannot, even when they do happen to find a “correct” target.
I just realized this isn’t NCD…
Clearly you haven’t been paying Fallout.
Just gonna slip this into your pocket…
They’re especially useful for defending against innocent civilians decades after the war ends.
It’s cheap and effective against invaders, sometimes when you’re in bind you need to use terrible tools
Society now outsources its cutting to machines…
Have fun explaining to your date why you have a knife while they make this face.
Huh, you must get afraid in a steak restaurant.
Follow the thread, this is about whipping a knife out on a date by a tree, presumably with no witnesses.
It would only be concerning on the first couple dates and mostly because of the declaration of love on a first dates less so the knife. I would imagine if they’re in the heart carving phase she would know he carries a knife by then.
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Making shit up doesn’t help your argument.
What did I make up? The no witnesses? You’re right, carving in trees on dates is usually done with lots of people around.
Yeah, you made up a scenario that fits your narrative.
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Mf has never seen a tree in its natural habitat
Knives are normal things to have around. This is like freaking out because you found out someone has a lighter
People are utterly terrified by the idea of something that could cause consequences if wielded improperly.
Or, stated another way:
People are terrified not just of accountability, but of potential, theoretical accountability.
Hyperconsumerism?
0 attention span?
Things are supposed to all be instant, temporary and ephemeral, nothing that implies the potential of long term consequences can be considered without a level of genuine terror.
I had never thought of it that way. You are absolutely correct on the accountability.
I think a sizeable factor for the disdain is that EDC-bro that everyone knows who use their knife for everything even when the proper tool is right next to them. Or even the ones who carry an assault-type knife (like a karambit) holstered on their belt just for showing it off.
Those specific people sorta remind me of those fedora-bros where they think of it as an status symbol.
I don’t get it, it’s like self infantilizing. Their mommies cut up their food for them.
Also depends on the size of the knife.
Pocket knife: cool. Rambo knife: get the fuck out of there
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Can you explain in detail HOW knives are dangerous? Like more dangerous than the internal combustion engine.
They might cut their fingers while using it to cut their food, they haven’t graduated to forks yet so the likelihood of it is high. And that’s with mom’s supervision.
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A knife is about as “inherently dangerous” as milk. Properly kept, it’s never going to be an issue. Accidently leave it on the floor, and someone can slip or get cut.
Being responsible dos not remove a danger from existence. Accidents can still happen. Intent can change. The danger is always present. You even acknowledge this in n your last sentence.
Yes, being responsible and respectful of a dangerous item (e.g. knife, gun, whatever) is always good, and will minimize the danger. But the danger is always present, and thus always requires the responsibility and respect.
I still believe my original point stands.
My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn’t we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one?
For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn’t. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don’t carry a firearm, it’s an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it.
You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives.
I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument.
The danger is always present. Hahaha, like the knife I have folded in my pocket might suddenly attack me at any moment.
I’m flabbergasted as to how you managed to live long enough to learn the English language, and never had to, like, open a box
When I worked at a fast food place I would bring a knife every day, because one of the things you do a lot of is opening boxes and bags and tearing them open with gloves on sucks ass. You seem to be under the impression that pocket knives are chainsaws lol
You should have asked for a utility knife or box cutter. If you got hurt using your knife, the company could easily draw out and possibly dismiss a WC claim citing unauthorized equipment.
I did, the manager shrugged and told me to borrow the knife another employee brought in lol
I had a shitty job where I was opening lots of boxes for one of my duties but no cutting implements were provided. I asked and it was gently implied that sharp implements would not be provided to anyone in the building and that brining your own was strongly frowned upon. That was…interesting
Knife access is needed frequently enough to warrant at least a nice a little slip joint. You can use them to trim loose threads, open boxes, trim plastic tabs/flashings, dig out splinters, remove bee stings…
My wife asks to borrow a knife most days, and when I’m not carrying one, she gets flustered, yet refuse to bring her own.
This does depend on where you live. In a dense city where you always have access to stores and services, it’s not as vital. Meanwhile someone who lives and works in an isolated area would want to keep more tools on them or in their vehicle (flashlight, first aid kit, lighter, multitool/knife, etc)
Depends on the knife really. Even just a 1” non-locking blade on a multitool has excellent utility.
It’s a balance between usefulness and looking like a Crocodile Dundee cosplayer. You take what’s appropriate for where you’re going.
A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn’t give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife.
And the second part of the argument was that you don’t need that utility all the time. 99% of the society can get their things done without carrying a knife around.
Thus someone constantly carrying around a potentially dangerous tool would look weird. I’m sure a hammer would also have great versatility but when you see someone casually lugging a hammer around you wouldn’t find it weird?
“A toddler shouldn’t have one, so there’s no reason to ever carry one.”
Do you even listen to yourself?
Uhh… They mentioned a toddler to enforce the argument that a knife, regardless of size, still carries an inherent risk of cutting oneself.
And a pencil carries an inherent risk of poking ones self. Is it unreasonable to carry a pencil with you?
I’m not 3, I am a competent adult.
I personally wouldn’t go that far, but I’m not 3 either.
In a enormously consumerist society with a lot of packaging, why is it weird to carry a package opening tool?
You can do 99% of things without carrying a GPS, phone, internet browser, 3 cameras, a compass, an MP3 player, a TV and contents of the Library of Congress around, but no one bats an eye about someone bringing their modern smartphone literally everywhere.
A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn’t give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife.
You wouldn’t let a 3 year old cook dinner for himself either. A guy owning an oven is a huge red flag
I would say that locking blades a generally safer for the user than a non-locking blade.
Absolutely. Sometimes jobs exceed the abilities of a non-locker and then it gets dangerous.
Enjoy your soft bubble wrap life.
Knives are dangerous. No argument there. Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too. But they are also utilitarian in a lot of different and innocent situations. Having a simple pocket knife is not a bad idea.
- Cutting open boxes
- Cutting wire or string or that flat plastic tie used in packing
- Stripping wire
- Dislodging items
- Scraping things
- Peeling apples
- Whittling
The point is, I’d be less concerned about somebody having a pocket knife than a gun. But, that may be because I’m from the South and it’s more common down here; not that guns aren’t common, but that knives are very common.
Scraping things
Remind me not to loan you my knife.
Same with “dislodging items”
Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too.
I would bet money that the person you’re talking to thinks we shouldn’t be allowed to drive cars either
Tell that to the EU beurocracts that put a stupid tab in the plastic bottle caps that I now have to cut.
no, you’re just wrong.
turns out knife nuts are just as stupid and crazy as gun nuts…
Best to just ignore the type of person who carries a weapon like a women carries a full makeup kit.
Both do it for the same reason, impressing men but neither will acknowledge it and get irrationally defensive if it’s pointed out.
If this wasn’t true, they would be downvoting, they’d just ignore it and move on, like a real man but they can’t because they aren’t.
The opinel I carry only seems like a weapon to the weakest and softest whiny diaperbabies.
People need comforting lies. The weakest use sarcasm as a substitute for intelligent discourse.
Whatever you say bubble boy.
I have no skin in this game, but you just proved their point. You’re irrationally defensive in here, it’s intense.
Really bad vibes.
Whatever you say chief.
Imagine not carrying a knife everywhere you go.
I hate to have things in my pockets, so I don’t carry anything more than the absolute essentials of keys, phone, and wallet. I count on one hand where I needed access to a knife when I didn’t have one, and that was only because I forget to put it back into my tackle box after sharpening it.
Most pocket knives dont go in your pocket, they clip onto it for easy access. Theyre a tool that in certain cases needs to be accessed quickly or reliably.
So when you hear “I don’t like things in my pockets” your first assumption is that the speaker is unaware that hanging things off the side of their pockets is an option? Fine. For the pedantic: I don’t like having more than the bare minimum number of things in, on, or around my pockets.
Either way, still doesn’t change the fact that a very large number of people (myself included) have no use for a pocket knife in our daily lives.
The EDC crowd always tries to convince me I need a knife on me at all times because there are constant reasons to need one, as if I don’t experience what it’s like to live without a knife in my pocket every single day. I literally can’t remember the last time I needed a knife and there wasn’t one within a few steps. Why would I want more crap in my pockets when it’s not serving a need? There are knives everywhere, just put it in a drawer. If you need to work outside you can put it in your pocket then. EDC has nothing to do with utility, people just don’t want to admit it’s a hobby.
EDC crowd is carrying ridiculous amount of shit in their pockets. Fuck that
Mfw when someone has two things in one pocket
People laugh at me for carrying the EDC basic tactical flashlight, knife, multitiool, gun, measuring tape, fidget spinner, lockpick set and a lighter. What if you need them walking to your car smdh. We’ll see who is laughing then!
Aww fuck I forgot my wallet
I like how you have to make shit up because “a multitool fits in a pocket alongside a wallet” is too reasonable for you to engage with
It’s a joking exaggeration my man. I don’t care if you carry around a whole toolbox or go empty pocketed. Happy Christmas,
I tried, it’s just another thing to carry that I never need. I cannot think of a single instance when 1) I needed a knife 2) I wasn’t in a location which had a more appropriate knife than a pocket knife 3) I couldn’t just use a key.
Like every normal person?
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EDC. Never leave home without one.
What do you mean one of them? What kind of moron doesn’t carry a knife as part of their regular kit? Just today, I forgot my knife and was boned because I couldn’t open a thing until I got home. Knives are handy.
you forgot your knife and then someone had sex with you because you DIDN’T open anything?
I did for a while, and I never needed it. I’ve never needed to open something out and about where a key wasn’t perfectly capable.
Funny thing is… I ALWAYS have a knife on me, and I rarely have a key.
Weird, I always have my keys. How do you get into your home?
We should only question those who don’t regularly carry knives. Are they even trying to be contributing members of society at that point?
I don’t go camping with people who can’t drive stick
I would, but then I’d probably make them learn while we were camping and give them some practice on fire roads etc
I usually take them out, and kick them into the river. It’s the only merciful thing to do with people that can’t drive stick.
Whats interesting is that, in my experience, people find it SUPER weird for you to have a knife
Then a couple hours later, they’re asking to borrow it to open something
I was an outdoorsy kid in the 80s and 90s so pocket knives were common, but of course had rules. I hadn’t carried one for decades, but started again this year because of hobbies that have me working outside and it’s become super handy. I’ll even clip it in the pocket of whatever shorts or PJ pants I’m wearing in the house while just chilling with the family. 100% for utilitarian uses, and literally every day.
One thing I have to thank the EDC, tactiool, and/or Mall Ninja Shit communities for though is the amazing variety of high quality pocket knives that use replaceable utility knife blades! Light and slim ones, not rattling box cutters.
Mine is one of these. Plain titanium color, and after an embarrassing amount of screwing around I settled on Tajima V-Rex II blades. I don’t have a collection of knives or anything like that, but it is so satisfying to have the one tool that is exactly what I wanted for the job, and have need to use it constantly.
“I need my tools!”
It’s kind of a compliment.
I generally tear apart cheese and fruit with my bare hands on dates at the park, no need for a knife. That would be scary
Before smart phones, there was swiss army knives… lol.
You can also do it with a sharp rock, or a key…
Aw, look, those lovebirds left behind rope and articles of clothing!
Do I spy a mound of recently disturbed earth presumably left to commemorate their blossoming romance!?
ITT men not understanding why women are uncomfortable with them carrying a knife.
You know there are regions where carrying a knife is so prevalent that I could ask the women to borrow theirs if I didn’t have one right?
Call me sexist, but I think women should carry knives (mostly to defend themselves from men).
Call me sexist but I think they should carry a gun, I clean knocked out a dude with like 40lbs on me and a knife, or we could use surveillance to protect people and you know prosecute abusers but I guess that’s not good for Amazon stock or something IDK.
women are uncomfortable with them carrying a knife.
Maybe you are, but women largely aren’t. Are yoy picturing dudes walking around brandishing kukris everywhere? Because you should be picturing people of both sexes having a lil multitool in their pocket or their purse
Don’t give two shits if they don’t feel comfortable with me having a useful tool in my pocket. Fucking grow up baby.
My wofe has knives and guns…oooo noooo
Woman already comfortable with you is fine with you having a knife. Shocking.
Try pulling one out with what is essentially a stranger half your weight with no witnesses.
And why would you be on a secluded date with someone you don’t trust?
She carried knives before we met, owned pistols and went shooting a lot (we still shoot a ton after being married for nearly 20 years). She is about as progressive and feminist as they come. Assuming that you understand that not all women are fragile and scared. Plenty of them grew up without fear, but independence and stong will. It seems to be only recently that people are becoming fearful of everything. Social media has really driven people to think the world is super dangerous, when it’s literally the safest time in human history.
Multi-tools/swiss army knifes are a thing. Just because something has a blade doesnt make it a weapon, but I get it.
