For me apt is faster only 3 letters
Certainly faster than dnf
I mean… that’s not incorrect, but…
>>> len("apt update && apt upgrade") 25 >>> len("pacman -Syu") 11Is Yay out of date? “yay -syu” is even shorter
You don’t even need to do that. You can just type
yay
can haz
emerge world;) but… I know, I know… sanity adds more options.
Still longer, but at least just use
apt upgrade --updateSorry but muscle memory makes me write:
apt-get update apt-get upgradeAnd I’m used to apt complaining about missing repo URL, and then I have to fix it by pointing to archive.debian.org.
-U
that’s why we have
alias pac='pacman'Or just use yay instead
alias upd="your distro's upgrade command here"i aliased
pp='pacman -S'
inspired by vim’s:yyand:ddand etc…
>>> len("zypper dup") 10
pacman is the fastest but the syntax is weird. Has the best visual, i.e. pacman loading bar. If things go wrong like a broken dependencies it doesnt provide heloful output.
Apt is the easiest to use but its output is very congested. Remember that Linus Tech Tips linux install video? The error warnings are very squashed together making it very difficult to see.
Dnf is the sweet spot imo. As default, the speed is slow but you can tweak it on the config. Outputs are clean, and if something goes wrong like a broken dependency, dnf provides very useful info to troubleshoot.
Pacman is great until you forget to delete your lock file because you interrupted an update and wonder why it isn’t working.
APT is user-friendly, but a pain to automate in scripts.
the real winner is compiling from source. 😎
Portage gang represent
Yep, had to brick my system once to learn you never interrupt an upgrade…
pacman always tells you when the lockfile is present.
Yeah but then every time I have to relook up what that means lol, and how to fix it
After using dnf a bit:
- All the default answers are backwards to me, so
dnfquite literally ignores my input. dnf searchdid not show, by default, if a matching package is already installed.- Perfect perhaps for newbies, since dnf asks you trice.
yeah… arch is not leaving me anytime soon. The option to
makepkgfrom source a few custom packages is very neat.Yeah, that’s cool. Though I still prefer gentoo’s USE flags (and savedconfig and patches if you like too). Even has official binhost now too.
- All the default answers are backwards to me, so
No contest. Apt-rpm is superior in every way.
SuSE people can sit down too. I’ve seen inside that mess.
Apt-rpm
Ah-ha! First appearance of a PCLinuxOS user.
… Or you’re just using a confusing phrasing.
What is apt-rpm?
A wrapper to use apt commands for rpm packages. It’s just there to help with muscle memory.
Why is it superior?
The humans are chocolatey right?
And the worms are
winget.
apt today, apt tomorrow, apt forever
Apt my beloved Ɛ>
that’s apt
Apt together strong
My poor gam.
No one fears pacman unless they have to use it.
What’s wrong with pacman? I love pacman!
It’s never eaten your system’s bootability yet?
Any time I’ve ever used pacman to kill my system, it was my fault, usually because I either didn’t read the news and missed a manual intervention, or because I didn’t read the instructions before doing something. Don’t play fast and loose with root.
Actually tbh, pacman has saved my installations in a chroot environment more than a few times
I think you’re confused. It’s really easy to use. You have to learn 3–4 command line flags instead of subcommands, but that’s all that separates it from others in usage patterns.
What I really love about telling someone their favorite package updating tool is shit. Is someone trying to tell me I’m confused.
That or both wrong and an asshole. I was trying to be charitable.
I am just going to mention yum so that I can get downvoted. (We use it at work.)
yay
If I’m not mistaken, dnf is to yum as yay is to pacman. Edit: don’t shoot me I’m relatively new to arch based distros, AUR is scary.
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❌ apt update && apt upgrade
✅ pacman -Syu
apt --update upgrade
emerge
is the shortest to type.
Gentoo is the fastest package manager for the user. ;D
I use it everyday and I still hate pacman’s flags with a passion
The best syntax is zypper’s zypper in se, etc.
The thing I don’t like about zypper is that it is missing functionality
the equivalent of
apt autoremovehas to be done through YaST
an equivalent forapt purgedoes not existYou can use these abbreviations with DNF too, by the way.
Wow, cool never knew when I used it.
They S is for Sync. You’re syncing a package from the repos.
Everyone knows how to read, not everyone will feel comfortable reading the flags.
I’ve been trying to decipher this for a literal day what does this mean?
But what about
pacman -SsSync search? P.S. I like pacman, just that this combination of flags is a bit weird for me personally.You wouldn’t do that, its improper syntax. You’d do #pacman -Qs, Query local packages -> Search from within this set.
But I do, do that regularly. Why is it improper?
I’m just going Based on the man page I linked. s isn’t listed as a subflag of S so i’ve never thought to use it.I just checked that again and I’m totally wrong. Disregard me I guess.
Waka waka
Eh-e eh!
ILoveCandy Color ParallelDownloads = 15What is that?
Its an excerpt from pacman’s configuration file, first line makes the progress bar a pacman that eats dots while downloading packages, the second line is self explanatory and the third allows to download multiple packages at the same time so there are 15 pacmans at all times while downloading.
Nice!
Why are they fighting? *shrug*
I’m guessing whoever made this uses arch btw.
me over here using the gui software manager because it works just fine and I can’t be assed to learn the difference between package managers.
Its most likely just a front-end for one of the command line tools anyway, so you’re probably still using them.
And if it’s the easiest way to get what you need, then it sounds like you’re using the right tool for your use case. That’s a good thing.
