Yeah I installed that one you’re thinking of.
Fedora. It’s the one Linus uses.
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The hat?
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Gentleman
mentlegen
Things that make people not want to use Linux.
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I feel like I’m starting to see it die down some. There’ll always be pockets but it seems when people ask for which distro they just get advice and not flame wars as much
its because people dont know what they want. Linux has the problem that people want different things, ao theres dozens of distros to choose from.
windows is an example of giving little choice, so people begrudgingly “upgrades” because they ultimately dont really know what they want.
tldr, linux can be choice paralysis. single os is like being forced to drink soylent and only soylent, its got what you need but you might not like it.
Linux’s problem is that it’s not an OS, and so suggesting people use Linux doesn’t give them much advice.
The next problem is that linux based OSs are generally open source, which means it can be forked any number of times at any point in time.
There’s this super awesome and super confusing think in open software where you don’t have to use the thing you are given. Want to use facebook? Must use their app. Want to use reddit? Pretty much must use their app, etc.
But if you want to use Lemmy or Piefed, there are a dozen good choices, none are the wrong answer. Want to use Jellyfin? Well I connect with Kodi on my TV, Swiftfin on my mother’s, the Android Jellyfin app on my in-laws’ TV, Findroid (movies/TV) or Finamp (music) on my phone, etc. You don’t like an app you can still use the service just try another app or make your own. This is awesome, but super confusing to non-technical people.
Linux distros are the same. There are dozens of popular ones, many of which are based on others, the variety of choices is awesome but for non-technical people they have no idea where to start.
It’s less the choice paralysis than the insufferable superiority complex. Options are great. Wading through a sea of people who think they’re better than everyone is not.
Hard disagree. My experience here hasn’t been that anyone thinks they’re better, they just give recommendations based on their preferences. The problem is that everyone has different preferences.
Which leaves everyone wondering “wtf… There’s too many choices and I’m no closer to a decision after I’ve asked for help than before.”
Hell… In my case I was given MORE options after asking for help. In the end, that opened my eyes up to options that were better for my use case, but a lot of people just want to be told “use this and be happy”. There’s so much going on in everyone’s day to day that having to put thought into something they just want to work is exhausting.
That’s what windows gives people. The ability to be happy with what they have and not have to put any thought into it.
I am, of course, speaking for the majority out there. The people here, generally speaking, won’t be phased by that so take what I’m saying with a grain of salt if it doesn’t apply.
But yea… Analysis paralysis is 100% a thing and stops people from ever making the leap.
The web’s dying. The FSF’s dying. Windows 11 is made out of people. Dont you see? It’s people. They’re making our software out of people. Next thing, they’ll be breeding us like cattle for training data. You’ve gotta tell them. You’ve gotta tell them!
I’m running kubuntu which I find runs well with no issues (Intel with an NVIDIA card) and plays every game Ive tried to play. I chose kubuntu because I’m more experienced with debian based distros and I like KDE, but I do feel like maybe I should have gone with fedora and KDE instead. Can’t really be bothered to distro hop right now though.
So I put kubuntu on my bf’s laptop (intel/nvidia), and it’s been a painfully bad experience.
Interesting, what hasn’t worked? Im running a desktop so might be having less issues due to less bespoke hardware.
I ran it on an Intel/NVIDIA laptop about 10 years ago and had a lot of trouble getting the graphics to work well, particularly the Optimus switching. It never felt like it was working properly and graphics were always sub par to what I got running windows. It was a long time ago in computing terms though.
My 2012 MBP has Intel/ Nvidia graphics and every distribution I’ve ever tried has struggled with that, it seems to just be the way of things.
Have it working perfectly now (disabling Nvidia altogether) but involved both an NVRAM tweak and VGA Switcheroo.
Many distros have failed to even boot to the live USB on that Mac.
Kde is laggy in general, taking a full second or longer to do things like open the start menu or other menus.
Graphical glitches on the secondary display, especially in 2d things like steam or various kde menus. displays are mirrored, btw.
Volume slider appears randomly in the middle of both screens, no apparant cause.
Some games that worked fine under windows don’t work anymore, like cyberpunk 2077 (which is known to be better under proton than native windows).
Sound sometimes doesn’t work, don’t know why.
To resolve this, I tried to switch him over to Mint, because that’s what I use and it’s great on my machine so I should have tried that first. Laptop won’t boot that live usb.
edit: another one, cannot open the driver control menu (I forget what it’s called) at all.
Holy moly, that’s a lot of issues. Seems like there’s something else going on with that laptop given mint won’t even boot …
And that’s just what I know of from observing for a couple hours every week. He’s not a techie, and I’m out of practice.
I’m thinking either nvidia or dell is at fault, but I haven’t had the time to investigate.
I should try to get the model and specs of the machine, and maybe start a thread about it in a linux help community.
Next time you see an error on it run ‘journalctl -r’ in a terminal and see if you can spot anything specific wiggling out. Should be a good start to working out where the errors might be stemming from.
That said there seems to be a few different issues with that machine so its difficult to see how they might be related …maybe a hard disk with bad sectors or trashed ram? You could try reseating the ram module(s) and HDD connections?
You could also try update the NVIDIA drivers manually from terminal, switching between the closed and open versions of the latest driver can make a big difference. That might resolve your additional drivers access issue. I have found that GUI sometimes takes a long time to open …
CachyOS is my way
Absolutely love CachyOS. It just works
So what distro would James May be bringing up the rear and is total rubbish?
Okay, so, Richard Hammond would be the first to arrive with Linux Mint! …xfce Edition. It’s the sports version, it’s lighter, sleeker, faster than the standard version.
Meanwhile, Jeremy Clarkson would arrive with Ubuntu Server, under the impression it somehow has more POWAAA!!!
James May turns up, having done this properly. With FreeBSD.
Nope to mainstream, James would use Haiku OS.
James would probably come in with Panda Linux, especially if he’s in Bolivia.
Actually, Hammond would show up with something busted like Manjaro and at some point he’d manage to break Xorg or something near the end of the journey.
Oracle Linux
I dual boot Arch and Arch, and I run an Arch hypervisor as well as an Arch vm in each Arch instance.
Yo dawg…
Surely you run Arch in your containers as well.
More arches than an ‘80s suburban house
I triple boot. Pffh.
I am vaguely aware of Arch.
this guy arches
So what I’m hearing is that you’re a big fan of Windows 11…
Do you use arch containers in the arch VMs?
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Fedora KDE
The correct answer.
According to a survey of the Linux community, the best distro is always not the one that you picked.
I hopped around a lot, but finally settled on openSUSE Tumbleweed.
Shout out to the CachyOS crew. Their Discord is helpful. (Booooo, Discord, I know, I know.) They’re friendly and helpful.
Can’t agree more. I posted about some strange performance issues last summer and Peter talked with me about it privately for a few hours until it was resolved. Ended up needing some kernel patches for my setup that went on to help with the next release
I just want it to work and not spy on me. It’s not part of my self-image, I don’t even own a Tux shirt. It’s just a tool.
I run Mint. It works. I’m happy.
I use Arch by the way
On the question: throw a dice and hope you don’t piss off too many people :v
