House Democrats introduced legislation that if passed would force federal immigration enforcement agents to wear a public-facing identification in the form of a clearly visible and scannable QR code during enforcement actions.

The measure, H.R. 7233, was introduced last week by Rep. Ritchie Torre, a Democrat from New York, and referred to the House judiciary and homeland security committees. It currently has two cosponsors, Democratic Reps. Darren Soto and Shri Thanedar, and has taken no steps beyond initial referral.

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    And I’m sure those wouldn’t be obstructed or tampered with in any way. Even if they DID do this it wouldn’t fucking matter.

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    there were cameras like everyone, we got like 20 different angles… and they still murdered an innocent person.

    training, cameras, ids… those aren’t the problem.

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    No deals. We cant normalize this behavior in any way. Masks off and ID presented or they are presumed to be civilians.

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    Oh this is sinister. They can now add malicious things to QR codes. So literally you scan it and tell on yourself to Palantir. Fuck morons.

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      VPN or IP spoofing?

      The problem I see is if they’re too small. Maybe somebody records an agent doing something fucked up, but unless you can nab a high fidelity screenshot showing the QR code clearly, does it really matter if it’s there?

      It would be good to have a digital database tracking each agent, saying “so-and-so was spotted at such-and-such place doing this-and-that; here are some photos and video evidence.”

      Or “Here’s a group of ICE thugs brutalizing a bystander. Here are the QR codes that were spotted.”

      But again, that all depends on people actually being able to scan the QR codes…

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      no one can force you to follow a link you scan, that is not how it works.

      the problem i see in this is that when someone is shooting you in the back, it doesn’t help much that he is labeled with qr code.

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          technique described on the link still requires you to actively open the link after you scan it.

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              that is really bad application and you can choose some other. it is really not the norm. the point is this is not some universal vector of attack.

              it is stupid attempt for a solution anyway, but not for this reason.

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        This is why they should be disarmed, defunded, and dissolved.

        They are enforcing paperwork. They need a pen, not a gun.

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          yeah. i mean step one should be banning them from wearing face mask. wtf kind of logic is that you are allowed to wear face mask and then they put qr code on you to compensate for that? they will just shoot you when you try to scan it and say they were afraid for their life.

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      QR codes can contain other types of information aside from URLs (whose content can be altered remotely by the host). For instance, they can contain vCard data, where the subject’s name and business info are hard-coded into the pattern itself, with no remote connection needed (intended for sharing contact info without internet access). That format might be more appropriate for this case.

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        This will not work. The problem with vcard QR codes is that they are too dense. People would need to be shooting high resolution video at close distance with a steady hand for the scan to be successful. The only way this could reasonably work would be if they were wearing large micro QR codes, but not all scanners can read those.

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    At this point, the only reason to have meta glasses is because they always film and can automate identification without being targeted for having your phone out.

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    Yes, let’s give them more regulations for them to ignore.

    If there’s no accountability or consequences then who cares if they have a code, number, or even if they are masked.

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      No shit. Like right now the fuckers aren’t even keeping proper plates on their vehicles and are still running around masked like gangsters.

      Even if they did have a QR code, what’s it going to do give them a link to a hotline?

      "Hello, this is the ICE complaints line, please leave your name, number, and residential address and we’ll dispatch an armed goon squad to deal with your ‘complaint’ "

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    It’s a fine idea, but how are you supposed to approach close enough to scan the QR code if they tackle and shoot people for using cameras?

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    Abolish that fucking mess and prosecute them for their crimes. We can carve swastikas into their heads after conviction, because that’s the only thing we need to know about them.

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      little bit of sharpie over a white square and BOOM, unreadable.

      Or, better yet, they’ll just do what they’ve already done, which is simply ignore the requirement. If they won’t follow anywhere saying they can’t wear masks, they won’t wear the codes. Simple as that.

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      QR codes do have some degree of error correction.

      Try it. Draw over some white spaces. It’ll still scan.

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        Yeah, I think it might have been Veritasium that did a video on it, but they can still be made unscannable. Ultimately, they don’t wear barges as is, and their body cams seem to only work when they want them to, so what’s the point. Fascism doesn’t show it’s face. They are going to find ways to hide no matter what.

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          If you open any online QR code generator, you’ll see a redundancy field, which is a percentage and encodes for how damaged a code can get before it’s unreadable. you can set it pretty high. All that said, it’d be a hell of a lot better to abolish ICE.

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    I think we should allocate a few billion to ensure all officers are given “calming bananas”. I think if they were to eat the calming banana before their shift, it should decrease the likelihood of them killing citizens. They are likely acting out because they are hungry. Anyway, glad we found some common ground.

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    Such a stupid idea. Just give them a normal ID you can look up, why should it be a QR code?

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      A QR code is just that, a modern version of a code you can look up. However, I would worry that it might be hard to scan or read from a casual or safe distance if it’s not large enough on their uniform.

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          Or a camera. I don’t see why the QR code couldn’t have the number underneath. It doesn’t need to be a tracking device.