It is time for local and state governments to resist more forcefully the lawlessness and cowardice of an out-of-control federal government under the thumb of Trump.
And if they hadn’t put their thumb on the scale for Hillary in 2016, and she hadn’t decided to reach for some imaginary middle razor thin between corporate liberals and fascists, Trump would just be another dumb clown that tried to be a Republican presidential candidate.
I feel that, for a lot of folks, he was the last candidate that promised an actual brighter future to believe in. It’s a shame corporate donors pushed him out of the race, as it left a lot of folks feeling that their voices would never be heard.
I think it’s even fair to say that his dismissal by the Democrat party directly led to the voter resentment that helped Trump win the elections.
Bernie had no chance of winning a general election when he couldn’t even win a primary that’s why Trump wanted to run against him all three times and now there’s people comparing that with ICE occupying a city and murdering American citizens.
Losing faith in democracy would be acknowledging that the amount of huge money and influence took power out of voters hands, choosing Hilary for them. You’re arguing that people shouldn’t vote for the candidate they support because of a system inherently lacking in actual democratic power. You’re supporting something that isn’t inherently democratic.
You’re right that he would have lost if he somehow won the primary. Both the Democrats and Republicans would oppose him, which is impossible to endure, unless Bernie could enact a Trump-style takeover. And the superdelegates thing among others makes that rather unlikely.
So instead we get good cop bad cop in our elections, and a corporate puppet becomes President no matter what. Which is why I like to vote third party. Giving a vote that makes me an enemy of the entire country is too much fun to pass up.
He did not lose the primary by democratic means, but by Democratic means. His primary performance cannot be used to gauge his performance in the general.
However, I agree that there’s no point complaining about the corporate Democrats using their power to win. The thing for people who believed in Bernie to do is to get power, and use it to defeat the corporate Democrats.
And if they hadn’t put their thumb on the scale for Hillary in 2016, and she hadn’t decided to reach for some imaginary middle razor thin between corporate liberals and fascists, Trump would just be another dumb clown that tried to be a Republican presidential candidate.
Ten years later and you’re still talking about Bernie losing the primary.
I feel that, for a lot of folks, he was the last candidate that promised an actual brighter future to believe in. It’s a shame corporate donors pushed him out of the race, as it left a lot of folks feeling that their voices would never be heard. I think it’s even fair to say that his dismissal by the Democrat party directly led to the voter resentment that helped Trump win the elections.
Yeah I get he lost and people are sad but the next step is to move on instead of letting what’s happening happen.
Ah, but we must move on from that as well. The important stuff to pay attention to will only begin in 2032. Nothing until then matters.
This is what makes me lose hope in democracy.
Bernie had no chance of winning a general election when he couldn’t even win a primary that’s why Trump wanted to run against him all three times and now there’s people comparing that with ICE occupying a city and murdering American citizens.
You have it ass-backwards.
Losing faith in democracy would be acknowledging that the amount of huge money and influence took power out of voters hands, choosing Hilary for them. You’re arguing that people shouldn’t vote for the candidate they support because of a system inherently lacking in actual democratic power. You’re supporting something that isn’t inherently democratic.
And you’re calling the voting system as it stands undemocratic.
That is correct. Did you not comprehend what I said?
You’re right that he would have lost if he somehow won the primary. Both the Democrats and Republicans would oppose him, which is impossible to endure, unless Bernie could enact a Trump-style takeover. And the superdelegates thing among others makes that rather unlikely.
So instead we get good cop bad cop in our elections, and a corporate puppet becomes President no matter what. Which is why I like to vote third party. Giving a vote that makes me an enemy of the entire country is too much fun to pass up.
Might as well not vote for the value that vote brings but you do you.
I feel quite excellent over the fact that my chosen candidate is not a corporate puppet.
He did not lose the primary by democratic means, but by Democratic means. His primary performance cannot be used to gauge his performance in the general.
However, I agree that there’s no point complaining about the corporate Democrats using their power to win. The thing for people who believed in Bernie to do is to get power, and use it to defeat the corporate Democrats.
That. And people don’t understand a binary choice.
MAGA/Trump is still complaining about Obama, tan suits and Nobel Peace Prizes. Your point being?
In a discussion about Democrats fucking up running against Trump? Yeah, that’s what the adults are doing here, kiddo.
Sure, adults.
Fair point mr satansmaggotycumfart