What has Netflix enshittified? Ad supported viewing is a completely different tier and arguably they have provided even more value by bundling in mobile games that are completely ad and micro transaction free. Price increases don’t even count as enshittification.
It does if you inflate the price of the base tier, then add a new lower tier at the old price. With ads.
Or if you have less content and charge more.
Or if you stop making content with creatives having control and instead make it based on producer led content.
Or if you start changing up the cover art of different content and sprinkle it in different categories to give the appearance of more content.
Or if you claim to be about freedom of speech and not judging content based on being offensive or controversial, but then fire workers that you feel are offensive or controversial.
Or if you start buying your competition with the intention of having less competition.
It does if you inflate the price of the base tier, then add a new lower tier at the old price. With ads.
That’s not enshittification that’s a price increase. They’re not obligated to keep the same price point forever.
Or if you have less content and charge more.
Not enshittification because that’s literally how the industry works. Now imagine they have literally all the content, won’t you be saying it’s a MONOPOLY, KILL THEM ASAP?
Or if you stop making content with creatives having control and instead make it based on producer led content.
Not enshittification.
Or if you start changing up the cover art of different content and sprinkle it in different categories to give the appearance of more content.
Wow person learns how algorithms and categories work. What a revelation.
Or if you claim to be about freedom of speech and not judging content based on being offensive or controversial, but then fire workers that you feel are offensive or controversial.
Not enshittification.
Or if you start buying your competition with the intention of having less competition.
Didn’t you just say above you wanted more content?
This is just people crying about something they don’t like. If you don’t want to use the service don’t use it.
Is it irony to quote all the enshittification steps and then demonstrate you know nothing about enshittification by saying they’re good things?
If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them. None of the extra shit has any value to my house, for instance.
I never implied they’re good, I implied it’s not enshittification. There’s a difference.
If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them.
This doesn’t even make sense because they were added to your account at no charge. That means they would actually have to decrease the price if you want to exclude them.
Pumping anything and everything out leading to dropping shows
the loss of some providers and franchises
the tactics around sign in and users
streaming quality
adverts
These were standard and they compromised…unless pay more. They are still making money. They can still afford to employ talent and pay wages. They can still choose to be fair to their employees and customers. But no. Give less, remove features, raise prices is the approach they repeatedly take.
If I bought a dvd its didn’t come with a ban on sharing it. They have conditioned lots to think this is acceptable. It’s not you are the customer. You give them money and it’s still not enough for them.
They kind of did though. When Netflix decided to produce their own content, studios understood that Netflix would prioritize it’s own content in the algorithm so they all scrambled to make their own platforms.
If Netflix had been content staying a distributor, we’d all still have everything available all on the one app.
Content disappearing was an issue before they started making their own. Netflix’s initial popularity is why everyone decided to make their own service.
I’m not sure that’s really enshittification. It’s not so much a way to deteriorate the service to make money as it is an attempt to accommodate the habits of the viewers. I totally agree that we’re getting super bad content that’s only mildly entertaining if you’re doing 2-3 other things while watching, but that’s the demographic they believe they have.
It’s just a matter of what it is. The end product is still garbage, but to me enshittification is the process of making the platform worse by one way or another monetising the users, like adding ads and promoting content that while not in the interest of the users will retain them (such as ragebait on Faceboo). In this case they make the content worse because they believe it will attract customers.
Jokes on them, I already cancelled my Netflix and hbo accounts because of the rampant enshittification of both services.
What has Netflix enshittified? Ad supported viewing is a completely different tier and arguably they have provided even more value by bundling in mobile games that are completely ad and micro transaction free. Price increases don’t even count as enshittification.
It does if you inflate the price of the base tier, then add a new lower tier at the old price. With ads.
Or if you have less content and charge more.
Or if you stop making content with creatives having control and instead make it based on producer led content.
Or if you start changing up the cover art of different content and sprinkle it in different categories to give the appearance of more content.
Or if you claim to be about freedom of speech and not judging content based on being offensive or controversial, but then fire workers that you feel are offensive or controversial.
Or if you start buying your competition with the intention of having less competition.
That’s not enshittification that’s a price increase. They’re not obligated to keep the same price point forever.
Not enshittification because that’s literally how the industry works. Now imagine they have literally all the content, won’t you be saying it’s a MONOPOLY, KILL THEM ASAP?
Not enshittification.
Wow person learns how algorithms and categories work. What a revelation.
Not enshittification.
Didn’t you just say above you wanted more content?
This is just people crying about something they don’t like. If you don’t want to use the service don’t use it.
Define: “Enshittification”.
Whoa are you a bot or something? There’s a proper disconnect from reality in your comments.
Idk. All those things deffo sound more shitty to me.
Is it irony to quote all the enshittification steps and then demonstrate you know nothing about enshittification by saying they’re good things?
If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them. None of the extra shit has any value to my house, for instance.
I never implied they’re good, I implied it’s not enshittification. There’s a difference.
This doesn’t even make sense because they were added to your account at no charge. That means they would actually have to decrease the price if you want to exclude them.
These were standard and they compromised…unless pay more. They are still making money. They can still afford to employ talent and pay wages. They can still choose to be fair to their employees and customers. But no. Give less, remove features, raise prices is the approach they repeatedly take.
If I bought a dvd its didn’t come with a ban on sharing it. They have conditioned lots to think this is acceptable. It’s not you are the customer. You give them money and it’s still not enough for them.
Netflix doesn’t really control the content that other creators allow on their service, so point 3 is moot
They kind of did though. When Netflix decided to produce their own content, studios understood that Netflix would prioritize it’s own content in the algorithm so they all scrambled to make their own platforms.
If Netflix had been content staying a distributor, we’d all still have everything available all on the one app.
Content disappearing was an issue before they started making their own. Netflix’s initial popularity is why everyone decided to make their own service.
Their content.
I’m not sure that’s really enshittification. It’s not so much a way to deteriorate the service to make money as it is an attempt to accommodate the habits of the viewers. I totally agree that we’re getting super bad content that’s only mildly entertaining if you’re doing 2-3 other things while watching, but that’s the demographic they believe they have.
so… what difference does it make?
It’s just a matter of what it is. The end product is still garbage, but to me enshittification is the process of making the platform worse by one way or another monetising the users, like adding ads and promoting content that while not in the interest of the users will retain them (such as ragebait on Faceboo). In this case they make the content worse because they believe it will attract customers.