You can pirate their content, too! 🏴☠️🦜
The fuck they will!
I am genuinely impressed by my local library’s collection of DVDs. Rows upon rows upon rows. I just went the other day and was overwhelmed, in a good way.
I still sail the high seas for things I can’t find elsewhere, but boy is it nice to pop a free DVD into my Playstation without the hassle of transferring files.
You got it.
Jokes on them, I already cancelled my Netflix and hbo accounts because of the rampant enshittification of both services.
What has Netflix enshittified? Ad supported viewing is a completely different tier and arguably they have provided even more value by bundling in mobile games that are completely ad and micro transaction free. Price increases don’t even count as enshittification.
It does if you inflate the price of the base tier, then add a new lower tier at the old price. With ads.
Or if you have less content and charge more.
Or if you stop making content with creatives having control and instead make it based on producer led content.
Or if you start changing up the cover art of different content and sprinkle it in different categories to give the appearance of more content.
Or if you claim to be about freedom of speech and not judging content based on being offensive or controversial, but then fire workers that you feel are offensive or controversial.
Or if you start buying your competition with the intention of having less competition.
It does if you inflate the price of the base tier, then add a new lower tier at the old price. With ads.
That’s not enshittification that’s a price increase. They’re not obligated to keep the same price point forever.
Or if you have less content and charge more.
Not enshittification because that’s literally how the industry works. Now imagine they have literally all the content, won’t you be saying it’s a MONOPOLY, KILL THEM ASAP?
Or if you stop making content with creatives having control and instead make it based on producer led content.
Not enshittification.
Or if you start changing up the cover art of different content and sprinkle it in different categories to give the appearance of more content.
Wow person learns how algorithms and categories work. What a revelation.
Or if you claim to be about freedom of speech and not judging content based on being offensive or controversial, but then fire workers that you feel are offensive or controversial.
Not enshittification.
Or if you start buying your competition with the intention of having less competition.
Didn’t you just say above you wanted more content?
This is just people crying about something they don’t like. If you don’t want to use the service don’t use it.
Define: “Enshittification”.
Idk. All those things deffo sound more shitty to me.
Whoa are you a bot or something? There’s a proper disconnect from reality in your comments.
What has Netflix enshittified?
Their content.
I’m not sure that’s really enshittification. It’s not so much a way to deteriorate the service to make money as it is an attempt to accommodate the habits of the viewers. I totally agree that we’re getting super bad content that’s only mildly entertaining if you’re doing 2-3 other things while watching, but that’s the demographic they believe they have.
so… what difference does it make?
It’s just a matter of what it is. The end product is still garbage, but to me enshittification is the process of making the platform worse by one way or another monetising the users, like adding ads and promoting content that while not in the interest of the users will retain them (such as ragebait on Faceboo). In this case they make the content worse because they believe it will attract customers.
- The quality of writing/content
- Pumping anything and everything out leading to dropping shows
- the loss of some providers and franchises
- the tactics around sign in and users
- streaming quality
- adverts
These were standard and they compromised…unless pay more. They are still making money. They can still afford to employ talent and pay wages. They can still choose to be fair to their employees and customers. But no. Give less, remove features, raise prices is the approach they repeatedly take.
If I bought a dvd its didn’t come with a ban on sharing it. They have conditioned lots to think this is acceptable. It’s not you are the customer. You give them money and it’s still not enough for them.
Netflix doesn’t really control the content that other creators allow on their service, so point 3 is moot
They kind of did though. When Netflix decided to produce their own content, studios understood that Netflix would prioritize it’s own content in the algorithm so they all scrambled to make their own platforms.
If Netflix had been content staying a distributor, we’d all still have everything available all on the one app.
Content disappearing was an issue before they started making their own. Netflix’s initial popularity is why everyone decided to make their own service.
Is it irony to quote all the enshittification steps and then demonstrate you know nothing about enshittification by saying they’re good things?
If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them. None of the extra shit has any value to my house, for instance.
I never implied they’re good, I implied it’s not enshittification. There’s a difference.
If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them.
This doesn’t even make sense because they were added to your account at no charge. That means they would actually have to decrease the price if you want to exclude them.
I do, because historically I want to support the people making content I love.
However, the distribution channels and situation is nearing abysmal quality while gobbling up more and more money. So long term… I dunno… I only maintain 2-3 streaming services at a time, and one is CBC, which I won’t be dropping.
that’s the fun part, basically none of the money you pay actually goes to the people who made the thing.
like 95-100% of the money that the crew of a movie or TV show makes is paid to them during production. There might be a handful of crew, typically writers, actors, and directors who get residuals, but that’s typically a very small fraction of the total amount they got paid.
Your money goes to the studio who produced the film/show in order to recoup their investment. and in my experience, the studio doesn’t actually give a shit about the creatives who made the thing you love. They’ll get rid of them for someone cheaper at the first opportunity, and a lot of them are trying to get rid of them for AI right now.
This was exactly the way I thought of my spending habits for a long time. Then a few years ago, Netflix prohibited password sharing, a soft feature they had specifically encouraged in the past, with the explicit purpose of desperately generating additional revenue as other growth streams plateaued. When most users just kind of accepted it, the dam broke and all the other services followed suit.
That was the final straw for me, on top of the proliferation of dedicated per-studio services, price hikes, and pricing tiers that created needless feature lock-outs. As a consumer I get dicked around in every sector in which I’m forced to participate, but this is one sector where I have an option to withdraw from the dicking.
I have a budget I set and I spend across a couple creatives and media companies, but they are direct payments tonth creatives themselves. I have no issues paying for people to create works.
But such a microscopic portion of any streaming service payment, coupled with deeply toxic, dark patterned business models, not to mention how the business structure has distorted the model for creative works.
I have views on property rights that I know aren’t the most popular on a dot world or even some of the more radical instances. I know a few share it, but I know most don’t, but I genuinely don’t believe in copyright.
Copyright (and patent law) is deeply flawed and has been abused far beyond its original intent.
I would very much like reform.
This 100%.
It has been a weird journey for me, from “Netflix is elevating all of these great comedies!” To Netflix is buying competitors to keep every creator vulnerable.
That said, Dropout, Nebula and Curiosity Stream all seem pretty ethical toward creators. I think the combination of all three costs less than Netflix. (Though I’ve been on the Netflix boycott for awhile now.)
Also, I can’t get over Dropout’s ad series encouraging users to share a password to let someone try DropOut. Boss move.
Personally I cancelled both of these services. Services just got worse and cost more, I can’t imagine a merger is going to make that situation any better. I have CBC and I kept Paramount because it was 50% off annually for black friday and I enjoy Star Trek. The rest I either find other means to watch or happily do without.
Way ahead on this one.
Too late, I cancelled Netflix years ago.
Weird statement to make considering we can cancel at any time. I did years ago.
I fucking hate this capitalist, anti-consumer hellscape. I stopped watching Netflix because I loathe their “multi-screen writing” policy. I don’t want my dollar supporting that and if we roll all the services into one voting with your wallet becomes practically impossible.
That was always an option…
KTHNXBYE
I love watching the free market regulate itself.
Star Trek has left Netflix, so what is it even for now?
That’s exactly when I canceled.
