The land of refuge for SS division Galizien, the trucker convoy, starlight tours, etc…
As a European I had the wrong idea that Canada was better/different, boy was I wrong.
When comparing 2 countries you can’t just focus on “Politics”. Theres much more like levels of education, wealth disparity, like how the judiciary functions to consider too.
There are many realms of life where canada rofl stomps america.
Yes the right wing political influence is bad. It is a present threat and it comes from america. But you have to see that it also doesn’t have widespread support. Canadians hate that shit and refuse to tolerate it more so than americans.
And in a period of post-covid economic struggle, canadians succumbed to the brain worms and immigrant blaming that you see world wide, but they ultimately overcame it.
They didn’t allow right wing rhetorician who would inevitably make things worse to seize power. In fact he didn’t even win his own seat during the last election.
(This is not to say canada is perfect or even great for it’s citizens, but again if you are comparing to america it is bar none superior)
When comparing 2 countries you can’t just focus on “Politics”.
I don’t.
Yes the right wing political influence is bad. It is a present threat and it comes from america
Now that I totally disagree with.
Of course influence from the US is never good but Canadians have ample racism and fascism all by their own doing.
Not in the least by the Ukrainian influence.
They didn’t allow right wing rhetorician who would inevitably make things worse to seize power. In fact he didn’t even win his own seat during the last election.
Plenty other politicians from your parties have shown awfully racist behavior.
Also they still support and even arm israeli genociders, help the US and other regimes in war crimes, etc…
Not to mention the eternal racism against natives.
Obviously compared to the US Canada is less bad, still it’s despicable and unacceptable in many ways and you portraying it favorably is a lot of wishfull thinking at best, if not delusional.
Maybe you’re Canadian and have no frame of reference except the shithole taht is the US.
I can’t seem to find a place where we disagree. You seem to want to bloviate on about how canada is complicit in global death and destruction and suffering. These facts are undeniable.
My point is and always has been, that canada is not as bad as the us. Literally not that canada is good, which you seem to be misconstruing it as. So either argue for canada being worse than the us, or lets agree to agree and fuck off.
Nah, in this thread no less that 4 users on ML basically said wipe America out, despite millions protesting, despite the systemic issues like vote suppression and first pass the post that allowed them to win you put all of the sins on the general public which is problematic at best.
I’m not saying that America is good, under its current leadership it is absolutely a destabilizing force in the world. But to pass those sins onto the general public is troublesome.
I want you to imagine if people said the same thing about Russia or China or Israel. Do you understand how many innocent people would die for the actions of their government? There would be no nation left because no nation is without guilt.
People don’t want literal genocide on Statesians. What people want is the end of the US Empire, including the state, ideally via socialist revolution. I also want the end of Israel as a state, and I want Russia to have a socialist revolution. It’s important to read into what people are actually meaning by their words, and not take it to mean that they want to kill you personally, unless you’re fighting to uphold imperialism.
I myself am a Statesian, and have no intention on dying.
That is very kind of you. I am a strong reader; in fact I’m not too humble to mention that I was the recipient of multiple Pizza Hut Personal Pan Pizzas in my youth, as recognition for my excellent reading skills, and so it is touching for you to recognize it.
My fellow strong readers will be well aware that there are multiple ways for a country to cease existing. Some peaceful, and some violent.
As thoroughly insightful, erudite, and compellingly written as that gem of a comment was, it did not specify. And given your server, it seemed prudent to seek specifics.
You got it buddy, I’m against human death and destruction, EXCEPT for americans somehow. Because they aren’t people? Or something?
Yeah that would be a weird contingency, especially because it was never stated or suggested. This strawman, conceived entirely of your preconceived notions, that you started arguing against, would indeed be illogical. Great shit sherlock.
So keep your medallion, you’ve earned it. And I’m glad we wasted all this time appealing to your nonsensical and delicate sensibilities. Your superior mind is exactly why commies want to kill you. You’re just too motherfuckin smart.
I have only been trying to clarify your view and there is no strawman so if you see that as somehow hostile or adversarial then that is very much a problem you will carry with you after I’ve forgotten this exchange.
It cannot change as a nation. Any movement for federal reform is a lost cause. Certain states and municipalities could change, and that is where the future is for some citizens.
What’s the argument here? Is it that America has always been that? YES, WE KNOW, WE WANT THAT TO CHANGE.
You’re canadian. Perhaps you can see it clearer,
But americans DON’T see this. Their eyes must be pryed open.
The land of refuge for SS division Galizien, the trucker convoy, starlight tours, etc…
As a European I had the wrong idea that Canada was better/different, boy was I wrong.
Canada IS in many ways better and different than america. The problem is that the bar is DISTURBINGLY low.
true, they have more rights for their citizens, etc…
somewhat European, but the right-wing influence is on American level.
When comparing 2 countries you can’t just focus on “Politics”. Theres much more like levels of education, wealth disparity, like how the judiciary functions to consider too.
There are many realms of life where canada rofl stomps america.
Yes the right wing political influence is bad. It is a present threat and it comes from america. But you have to see that it also doesn’t have widespread support. Canadians hate that shit and refuse to tolerate it more so than americans.
And in a period of post-covid economic struggle, canadians succumbed to the brain worms and immigrant blaming that you see world wide, but they ultimately overcame it.
They didn’t allow right wing rhetorician who would inevitably make things worse to seize power. In fact he didn’t even win his own seat during the last election.
(This is not to say canada is perfect or even great for it’s citizens, but again if you are comparing to america it is bar none superior)
I don’t.
Now that I totally disagree with.
Of course influence from the US is never good but Canadians have ample racism and fascism all by their own doing.
Not in the least by the Ukrainian influence.
Plenty other politicians from your parties have shown awfully racist behavior.
Also they still support and even arm israeli genociders, help the US and other regimes in war crimes, etc…
Not to mention the eternal racism against natives.
Obviously compared to the US Canada is less bad, still it’s despicable and unacceptable in many ways and you portraying it favorably is a lot of wishfull thinking at best, if not delusional.
Maybe you’re Canadian and have no frame of reference except the shithole taht is the US.
I can’t seem to find a place where we disagree. You seem to want to bloviate on about how canada is complicit in global death and destruction and suffering. These facts are undeniable.
My point is and always has been, that canada is not as bad as the us. Literally not that canada is good, which you seem to be misconstruing it as. So either argue for canada being worse than the us, or lets agree to agree and fuck off.
I DON’T BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE.
Ah yeah, you’re right. Let’s back the faschists together! 🩷
We’re in .ml it’s a Russian psyop
Cringe
Any evidence?
I think they’re just hoping because if y’all do it for free it gets a little sad.
I pay dues to the org I work with, I don’t think it’s sad at all to want the working classes to finally be liberated, and work towards that goal.
Nah, in this thread no less that 4 users on ML basically said wipe America out, despite millions protesting, despite the systemic issues like vote suppression and first pass the post that allowed them to win you put all of the sins on the general public which is problematic at best.
I’m not saying that America is good, under its current leadership it is absolutely a destabilizing force in the world. But to pass those sins onto the general public is troublesome.
I want you to imagine if people said the same thing about Russia or China or Israel. Do you understand how many innocent people would die for the actions of their government? There would be no nation left because no nation is without guilt.
People don’t want literal genocide on Statesians. What people want is the end of the US Empire, including the state, ideally via socialist revolution. I also want the end of Israel as a state, and I want Russia to have a socialist revolution. It’s important to read into what people are actually meaning by their words, and not take it to mean that they want to kill you personally, unless you’re fighting to uphold imperialism.
I myself am a Statesian, and have no intention on dying.
You’re both right because there is no We in America.
That is the problem we must solve.
Perhaps there should be no “america” at all. Seems like that option would save the world from a lot of death, and destruction and economic rape.
It depends on if you are talking about the entity or the people in the entity.
If the former, I do not disagree. There need not be states at all in fact, as a matter of preference.
If you are talking about the people, well, it sounds like you are talking about more death and destruction so no thanks.
Strongest Reader in America Award 🏅
Why don’t you re-read my comment and see if I said “America” or, “Americans”.
Take your time, I’ll wait.
That is very kind of you. I am a strong reader; in fact I’m not too humble to mention that I was the recipient of multiple Pizza Hut Personal Pan Pizzas in my youth, as recognition for my excellent reading skills, and so it is touching for you to recognize it.
My fellow strong readers will be well aware that there are multiple ways for a country to cease existing. Some peaceful, and some violent.
As thoroughly insightful, erudite, and compellingly written as that gem of a comment was, it did not specify. And given your server, it seemed prudent to seek specifics.
Thank you for the helpful response.
“Communists want to kill all americans”
You got it buddy, I’m against human death and destruction, EXCEPT for americans somehow. Because they aren’t people? Or something?
Yeah that would be a weird contingency, especially because it was never stated or suggested. This strawman, conceived entirely of your preconceived notions, that you started arguing against, would indeed be illogical. Great shit sherlock.
So keep your medallion, you’ve earned it. And I’m glad we wasted all this time appealing to your nonsensical and delicate sensibilities. Your superior mind is exactly why commies want to kill you. You’re just too motherfuckin smart.
I have only been trying to clarify your view and there is no strawman so if you see that as somehow hostile or adversarial then that is very much a problem you will carry with you after I’ve forgotten this exchange.
Peace to you.
It cannot change as a nation. Any movement for federal reform is a lost cause. Certain states and municipalities could change, and that is where the future is for some citizens.