For me it’s saying, “we can’t joke about anything anymore”. Sirens go off immediately 🚨
“License and registration please.”
Good lord, this thread.
Does anybody else like to get angry over petty bs?
“Actually, we’re a constitutional republic…” & “Our thoughts and prayers…” are both candidates, I could come up with way more.
“person of color”.
“Female” instead of woman or girl.
Edit: as in, where “woman” or “girl” would be grammatically correct. e.g. “a lot of females work at that company” vs “a lot of women work at that company” or “that company has a lot of female employees”
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So the authors of these books?
- The female
- Females
- Single Black female
- Females and Harry Potter
- Fierce females on television: a cultural history
- Warriors, witches, women: mythology’s fiercest females
- How Can They Tell If I Am Male Or Female? Gender Stereotypes in Disney Movies
- Mistress, mother, muse: an exploration of the female in modern and contemporary Mediterranean literature
- Gender and identity in Franz Grillparzer’s classical dramas: figuring the female
- Livy’s women: crisis, resolution, and the female in Rome’s foundation history
- A heritage of her own?: Allusion and tradition in female-authored poetry of the Hellenistic age
- African American females: addressing challenges and nurturing the future
- Gender, supernatural beings, and the liminality of death: monstrous males/fatal females
- Women who fly: goddesses, witches, mystics, and other airborne females
- A house full of females: plural marriage and women’s rights in early Mormonism, 1835-1870
Or of various feminist book titles featuring the noun?
Or the vast amount of people who use the noun self-referentially in dating communities (eg, “F4F/M”), classifieds (eg, “need a roommate […] females only”), or natural communication? In conventional language, it’s an acceptable word.
Maybe you have this wrong, and instead it’s those who in effect (which may defy intent) stigmatize an entire gender by claiming their noun is wrong instead of embracing it as a word of pride.
This analogy fits language policing self-saboteurs.
Imagine online activists started condemning usage of the word dutch as a slur. It’s bizarre: there is nothing wrong with the dutch, yet they’re acting as though we should think so & resist that urge? Why are they propagating problematic presuppositions we don’t have about the dutch? Why are they trying to make this official? Are they some special breed of stupid?
Continuing this analogy, they drag you into fights by claiming you’re a racist for using the word when you’re not actually saying anything offensive about the dutch. You & the rest of society know the word dutch isn’t offensive, yet these activists insist it is by pointing to some fringe online community spewing vitriolic propaganda about dutch inferiority specifically using the word dutch. You repudiate their claim by asking why some fringe group irrelevant to wider society gets to decide the meaning of words, but they condemn your “hurtful” language and say you’re as bad as them or one of them. Don’t be an asshole & use another word like Dutchperson, Netherlander, or Hollander they say: it’s the right thing to do & shows socially conscientious, moral rectitude.
Every time I see the word used outside of a biological context, I imagine the person looks like this:
Female is a great adjective but an inappropriate noun.
is it just grammar or just incels ruining that word?
A bit of the second one, but not fully? I don’t think using “female” as a noun when talking about a person sounded good, but it’s appropriate for animals. I imagine incels chose that because it wasn’t the way people spoke, but was only weird at worst, so it wasn’t that suspicious initially.
Keeping up with this bullshit is almost a full time job.
That’s a good way to put it.
it helps if you read females like tamales.
Hey, I always do that when it’s used as a noun!
Where’d you get that bag?
Oh, it’s a shemale
Oh man, that’s gonna stick in my brain. Great, thanks.
I’m forced to read “spectacles” like a Greek because of a post like this.
Oooh, my testicles sound so much fancier now!
And how did they get dusted with glitter?!
I hope that you can extend some grace to people born in different eras. When I hear something like “woman employee,” I hear my Greatest Generation grandparents, and believe me, neither “woman doctor” or “woman driver,” nor any similar construction was complimentary.
I think it was the Boomers who started to use “female” as an adjective, because it sounded clinical, descriptive, and non-judgemental. So “female employee” sounds much better to my ear. (But, FWIW, the use of “female” as a noun is total cringe.)
Yeah, inceldom has coopted the word, and now I hear that “woman doctor” is preferred, but it’s not always easy to remember that on the fly when you grew up with the opposite connotation.
Yeah, inceldom has coopted the word
Only if we let them, and anyone who does is an incompetent advocate choosing to let sexists decide the meaning of words for everyone else when everyone else has at least as much power to do otherwise. It’s complacent cooperation with the enemy that purports ethical superiority while being the opposite.
Older activists who understood the pitfalls of establishing their own stigmatization in the language at least had the sense not to cooperate with their enemies. They’d more creatively reappropriate or reclaim words or embrace them as terms of pride. That lesson seems lost here.
My comment was more about the use of “female” as a noun, but your comment about which to use as an adjective raises an interesting point, especially because, as you mention, the generation to regularly say things like “woman doctor” in a not-so-great way has mostly died out. I’m not sure where things stand currently on which adjective is preferred; I think it’s mostly contextual at the moment? (Like “I would feel more comfortable being examined by a woman doctor” sounds grammatically a touch clunky but connotatively fine to me, whereas “I can’t believe what that idiot female doctor diagnosed me with” sounds grammatically correct but otherwise awful)
how much I hate the euphemism treadmill.
Although with the distinction between gender and sex continually becoming more prevalent in the zeitgeist, I find myself using the terms “male” and “female” more often than I used to.
I found myself using female and male a lot after visiting a certain e621
spe’fy what show (in Dm if you prefer)
I might specify more often to clarify, like “All the female medalists/athletes,” but that’s quite different from when you hear someone say “Oh, you know how females can be.” It’s like their vocalization process includes a filter that converts “bitches” to “female” at some point between the first thought and actual speech, because they finally got the memo that not everyone is a misogynist like they are. You can hear the disdain in their voices when they say the word female.
This one has bitten me in the ass. Male and female are incredibly common terms in the medical community, but I try to limit my use of female to work only, if at all. On the plus side, I’ve learned I rarely need to use it at work. It literally only matters if we’re doing a deep dive into what’s potentially going on and need to branch out to figure it out
Non-native speakers in shambles. On the other hand, even males are not safe from us
It’s so weird how they flip both of those words around. Like, they’ll say “females” instead of women, but then, they’ll say “a woman doctor.”
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That’s such an American take.
Here in Australia female doctor makes grammatical sense, and woman doctor sounds ridiculous. Woman doctor would have the same assumption as it also has an opposite in man doctor, which sounds equally as ridiculous unlike male doctor.
Now you could say my doctor is a woman and that makes perfect sense whereas my doctor is a female is ferengi.
Woman doctor and nan doctor are just gynecologist and andrologist
Isn’t a “nan doctor” a grandgynocologist?
Or a gerontologist.
I only noticed it now and it was a hilarious typo
But only if you look around and then covertly gesture at your genitals while saying it.
I think it would be “Doctrix” in older versions of English.
I tend to drive more when my family goes on trips, while my wife acts as navigatrix.
Then we both cackle while the kids ignore us in the back.
Cool word, it’s fun to put the emphasis on different syllables. I like it on the I.
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What’s wrong with Executrix? That’s a perfectly acceptable, proper word. These days, it’s generally preferred to have a genderless noun like just Actor instead of Actress, but it’s still allowed.
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Executrix is still common when dealing with estates tho?
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Yeah, I only discovered the word when I read “doctoress” in a translation I was proofing and knew there was something going on there.
The people who respond to everything with “no one owes you anything” and “pull yourself up by the bootstraps”.
We all know no one owes us anything, going out of your way to respond like this, actually shows malice.
EDIT: Thank
“Wow, don’t take things so seriously!”
Cannibalistic Human Underground Dweller?
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
“Silent Majority”
It’s always their go-to when pressed on when they’re called out.
They can’t grasp the idea that their beliefs are really that unpopular so they cling to an idea of a “silent majority” that agrees with them but is either too censored or too bullied to speak up for what they think is the truth.
Sorry buddy, there is no such thing as a “silent majority” quietly agreeing with you but afraid to speak up, you and your illiterate buddies are just assholes and your opinions are shit.
“females”
“There are not a lot of people like us out there nowadays.”
This is a common MAGA comfort/greeting line they use when they meet new people.
The first and easiest is always the
phofaux-militaristic active wear. Its like adidas trainers on a guy squatting. When you know you know. If its an aiport, their bag has just an abusurd number of places to velcro things and a place to put a fake unit patch. Also, chuds mostly travel in packs, so the probability of them actually being a chud increases at a rate of 1- e-1/N chuds per unit area.See also lifted yota’s tacomas with a bunch tac gear, and a big-ol’ floor jack the think they need to carry around., none of which has ever been used, see also the F-350, and of course, the all-to-obvious “one dude in a cyber truck”.
I saw a guy with a military style duffle bag the other day, but it had the words “emotional baggage” on the side of it, and honestly, that passes the vibe check.
i actually saw a guy with someone else in their cybertruck the other day, first time for everything i guess
Maybe they were being trafficked. Did you call it in?
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pho-militaristic
Yeah, the tactical soup culture is really out of hand these days.
(…it’s “faux,” by the way.)
fixed but i’d rather pho
I take it pho-militaristic is Vietnam-era stuff.
Hey! I’ve been wearing camo and pseudo-tactical shit on the daily since long before it became fashionable. It used to be back in the good old days that military surplus gear was the cheap way for broke motherfuckers to get vaguely performant and moreover highly durable outdoor wear, plus it’s always full of pockets. Bonus points if you were also some kind of airsoft/paintball nerd.
You remember when the US switched to digital camouflage in the 2000s, then realized it was a terrible idea and switched back?
Any idea why you didn’t see cheap digital camouflage jackets around? Did they just not make to milsurp stores?
I have three sets of digital camo BDUs. Two sets of MARPAT, and one of some generic grey “urban” coloration. I didn’t find them difficult to source at all. Insulated jackets, though, I don’t know about.
Insulated jackets, though, I don’t know about
Yeah, that’s the one I’d expect to see around, since you know, cheap jackets that go to -40F. I saw quite a few of them in cold parts of China and even Kazakhstan and it made me curious why I didn’t remember any in America.
Oh, they’re about. I just haven’t seen any with modern-ish MARPAT patterns on them, for instance. If you just want an OD green one or something you can usually turn one up. If not truly surplus, one of the milspec manufacturers like Truspec will sell you one for a hundred bucks.
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In no particular order:
- ACU/UCP is pretty irredeemably ugly for casual wear. Maybe it will find a niche following among cyberpunks in 20 years or something, who knows.
- It may still have a connotation to official US Army uniforms that people looking for casual wear don’t want to make. The classic “woodland” camo is far enough removed from this.
It is in basically every surplus store, and it is cheap…because hardly anyone wants it.
Any idea why you didn’t see cheap digital camouflage jackets around?
It’s working
There’s an excellent podcast about fashion history and design called Articles of Interest by Avery Trufelman, and she did a season about the deep connections between outdoor wear and military clothing, with a lot of talk about surplus. I recommend it highly!
That was indeed fascinating. Thanks for sharing it!
You betcha!
So many pockets.
I miss my combat pants. They were comfy by the time I had to give them back, and they had so many pockets.
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Someone literally dropped the following during a conversation the other day. They were also a PoC of my race so it was an extra big red flag: “You know some people really are wolves because most are sheep.”
Yikes.
