An excellent suggestion was made to concentrate Iran conversation and posting to this mega thread. Please keep as much as you can here so that the main feed isn’t overburdened by Iran news.
Shits fucked, yo.
This worth keeping pinded at this point since obviously not being used?
Lemmy isnt so active and big that we need to hide things in megathreads.
It’s nice to get updates on events as they happen this way
I like megathreads because they improve conversation on a topic
Everytime I hear westoids say iran shouldnt get nuclear it gets on my nerves
fuck off dude, world would be better place if iran had nukes
Yes, they were not hesitant to kill thousands in protest even without nukes, why not just give them the ultimate pass like Kim?
why not just give them the ultimate pass like Kim?
Like the Americans and Israelis you mean.
Who is saying the world wouldn’t be better off if Americans and Israelis didn’t have nukes?
Do you live in such a world?
Your attempt to change the topic basically recognizes that it would be better if Americans and Israelis didn’t have nukes, yet you want more countries to have them, the sort that not hesitant to kill thousands in protest or launch attacks against neighbors in fit of rage. I do not live in such a world, but I definitely do not want to live in yours.
Stop trying to whitewash dictators and terrorists and try to claim they can be trusted with nuclear weapons, shill. Sorry you hate people who are more consistent than you and also call out the US and Israel on this instead of being the other side of the flip coin of being one of their fanatics.
As you have not provided a solution to get rid of all [thing], his reason [to also do thing] are just as valid as yours.
Your logic is so bad it could be used to rationalize doing any horrible thing as it cannot be completely eliminated (hint, almost nothing can be).
I do not live in such a world, but I definitely do not want to live in yours.
Neither does Kim. As you have not provided a solution to get rid of all nuclear weapons, his reason are just as valid as yours.
Who cares? kim is totally fine, where did you get “thousands” number from? which govt isnt authoritarian
Sorry, I have the source but it is the worst authoritarian of all. Iran themselves.
And by the way I am not going to engage with you any longer since you are mentally deranged to think “Kim is totally fine”. Shooting down people who are escaping from the country is fine? You are proving yourself to be just like the MAGA nuts.
Every country is authoritarian, whats your point? even my country has nukes and thousands of people have died in anti government protests, I dont get the co relation? First america will put illegal sanctions and when public unrest is created either people overthrow the govt or govt suppresses the protest forcefully. Who is at wrong here?
I frankly dont care, most of those stories about north korea are sensationalized, and even if he doesnt allow people to leave who cares tbf? he doesnt bomb random countries like america tho
Every country is authoritarian
There’s nothing anyone can reply to anything so thick.
Read the definition of state
kinda sad a megathread is only 193 votes after over 21 hours. Has Lemmy just lost users in the last year or something? Is this place even growing at all?
What’s the point of voting a megathread when it’s always pinned?
Also it doesn’t help there’s nothing in it
Yeah, I tend to not like Megathreads very much. Probably going to poke around this one, but I generally ignore them (or don’t even see them due to my sorting).
I, for one, am not on Lemmy to vote on stuff. I’m hear to read actual people’s opinions.
Hey, downvotes are still votes, don’t just ignore them.
I understand how bad the world order when the USA can do whatever the heck they want is bad, but we can’t act like the Ayatollah is a martyr. The power is always bad, not exclusively when it oppresses us
He is a martyr, objectively. Does that mean the Iranian government is “good”? No, but he was murdered by the US/Israel, knowing full well the risks to his own life. Now Iran is in a war of national survival, so it isn’t just pro-government people but also the fence-sitters who will consider him a martyr. The hard-core opposition will increasingly look like quislings as the nazi pedophile forces indiscriminately bomb Iranian cities.
We are not here to play moral game
Megathreads are kinda meh tbh.
It causes new info to be buried and not seen on the front page, and a lot of the discussion also goes unseen due to the high number of comments.
Megathreads linking to daily threads though are decent
So basically the plan is to keep air striking whatever administration fills the power vacuum until they get one they like?
The American way
I think I’ve just found the perfect GIF for the AI-pilled.
Man that gif is depressing
Trump said that this is going to last about four weeks. So he’s really going with “this will all be over by Easter” again like he did with Covid during his first term?
He just posted that three us could make bombs “forever”. Already teeing up to say this will take a long time and it hasn’t been a week
Great, so he’s got no plan for this, like everything else.
His plan is to steal the midterms and end national voting
Its part of the plan to rig the elections in November for sure
Yeah, giving a prognosis on the duration of a war is usually not the best idea.
Sincerely, a Russian. We’ve been stuck in our oh so glorious three day war for over four years now.
Yeah, that’s his M.O. - just do a bunch of shit that’s not the best idea.
Yeah, giving a prognosis on the duration of a war is usually not the best idea.
especially when it’s continued operation will be beneficial to him politically.
And likely fiscally. Did anyone check if a bunch of senators bought defense stocks?
I think you mean special military operation /s
I am shocked that the FIFA Peace Prize winner and chairman of the Board of Peace has decided to launch this Special Military Operation. Totally shocked.
FIFA peace prize in shambles, board of peace blown to pieces.
Bored of Peace
https://lemmy.world/post/43777365
I’m guessing nukes.
I’m sure he wants to, but I think everyone is telling him no. If we nuke Iran, Iran is free to nuke us. I’m not sure if they would. But if they do, we will likely see actual WWIII. Or at least the US’ allies dogpiling Iran. I don’t know if Iran has enough allies that would join the war.
Don’t count on US allies coming to save your ass.
You’re fucking up everything and arguing to invade our lands. Then the gall to assume we’ll help you do the same in other countries? Go fuck yourself. (Not aimed at you personally, don’t worry, I’m sure you understand.)
Iran nuking US would be… interesting. Murica (the bad parts) would have a chance to see what they rain down on the rest of the world. Hurts differently when it’s your own cities.
Do NOT pull us into your shitty mess. I would be tempted to cheer on the other side.
british are already allowing americans to use their bases for striking iran, lol you think EU can say no to USA? They are brothers in imperialism
The nuclear option is only possible in Iran because they don’t have nukes, that’s the whole point.
Iran doesn’t have nukes.
Because if they did, a public test would have been done, and the US would not have invaded
Breaking the nuclear taboo on a country that’s exhausted its ability to fight back seems like it would be buried somewhere in the Project 2025 fine print.
I mean, that’s exactly what we did last time!
When Russia lost planes to friendly fire, we made fun of them. It’s been 2 days and I think we’ve lost more planes to friendly fire than Russia has in years.
Back in my army days, every chopper that went down, whether in a warzone or not, was deemed an “accident” or “mechanical failure”. Once two choppers went down and we were told they just crashed against each other, lol. I don’t believe these “accidents” anymore, maybe 1 out of 10 cases but this is just a lie to keep morale up, I’m positive.
Nah, that’s just how friendly we are. You shoot at me? Instant friends!
Especially when they keep changing the story.
FWIW Russia shot themselves, so it’s not quite the same.
If the US had shot its own jets down … that’d be funny.
I have heard nothing about this.
Kuwait shot down 3 US fighters apparantly.
yeah i don’t buy the friendly fire thing either. at least not for all of them
My money is that the US didn’t give Kuwait the heads up that USAF jets would be flying through their airspace, so they never adjusted their Patriot systems to not shoot them down.
I hope no one on Lemmy is so dense as to believe that Iran is better with american bombs
Some people aren’t that ignorant but still need to rationalize their xenophobia and bloodthirst.
You’d be surprised. The second gulf war killed at least 10 times as many Iraqi civilians as Saddam did during his many years of brutal despotism. Few people mention that.
Israel must have real dirt on Trump to make him bomb them when they were never a threat to us, just local to Israel
they wanted to bomb iran for years now for a variety of (stated) reasons
They’ve probably just dangled some real-estate development rights, buliding resorts over the bones of murdered Gaza women and kids.
My Conspiracy is that trump is conspiring with the Global pedophilic oil elite to control the bulk of the world’s oil supply so that he can increase prices and profits for them. Pissrael is happy because they get their additional genocide
Bigger picture… US and China are going to war 2027-2028 (at least that’s what everything intelligence suggest for Taiwan).
Iran and Venezuela supplied China with large quantities of oil, removing them from the picture now means China is much easier to choke for Oil needs ending the war quicker.
china will rawdog USA, even russia and NK are just beside china geographically, lol
I mean you say that, but one country has been at war most of its life, and the other has never even won a war, let alone had any real field experience of recent modern war.
That also makes senss. Its a win win win really for trump AND all american politicians. Thats why, almost all critique about the terrorist attacks on Iran are about process. “Uhhh he didnt get the correct stamp to do this” and not about the material reality of this move
Plus the current hardware gets tested.
Ugh, the AI murder keeps me up at night
