• orenj@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I have a terrible confession: i have loads of audio issues im dealing with atm. My desktop setup basically gets confused and stops working whenever i try to switch fom headphones to speaker, and my two laptops just do not want to pair with my bluetooth headphones unless i futz with bluetoothctl every time

    Anyway, tangent aside. my terrible confession is that i go to linuxmemes for tech support, someone pls help

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      I’ve had a bunch of audio issues crop up for me as well, after upgrading to Pop 24.04 and the new cosmic DE. I used to have keyboard shortcuts that would reliabily switch from headphones to speakers, but those are hit or miss now. And when they miss, I have to go all the way into into alsamixer and unmute things until it works again. Which begs the question, why can’t the normal audio settings UI do everything alsamixer can? Alsamixer isn’t complicated, by any stretch. Literally just lets you adjust the volume of all the things on a particular audio card, and mute/unmute.

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      I have been using Arch daily for 13+ years and I still don’t have a proper grasp on audio and Bluetooth…

      Used raw ALSA, JACK, PulseAudio, and now Pipewire. I had major issues with all of them except ALSA.

      I managed to disable devices like my webcam mic and PS5 mic, and even added a noise reduction filter to my real mic that shows up as it’s own device, but…

      Only because the Arch wiki told me specifically how to do those things. Audio just luckily seems to work fine for the most part, currently. I used qpwgraph to play with wireplumber and it’s obviously very powerful, but I have no idea how it works :D

      Bluetooth is a different story, it seems to work differently on every single device I’ve worked on…

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    Apart from the occasional 100% VOLUME Noise Bang that I get into my Headphones (disregarding the volume I have set), pipewire works pretty well, consistently.

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    I’m going to tempt fate here, you ready?

    This hasn’t happened to me since pulseaudio

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      Never buy an HP laptop for linux.

      Same with any Apple Intel based iMac

      Driver support is non-existent. Audio via the speakers worked but no volume control, Bluetooth, thunderbolt, mic etc didn’t work. Even the headphone socket didn’t work.

      Shit even the gpu (AMD) didn’t work properly. Despite being a 5k panel resolution is stuck at 4k.

      Sigh. Would have been a great Linux box if I could have gotten it to work

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      My first experience with switching to Linux a few years ago was on an outdated, at the time, ~$400 HP laptop. Switching from Windows 10 to EndeavourOS, and everything just worked, including audio.

      In fact, it still works great whenever I turn it on like a few times a year.

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      Many hardware companies have the same problem, they can output some decent hardware, but some other series are true lemons (especially for Linux/Unix, but for a lesser extent, for that other system as well). And beforehand, it’s not always easy to know which is which. It’s a common issue with laptop makers where the hardware is often more esoteric.

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      hp victus16 is working fine with wireplumber. never buy hp because the anti customer practices, terrible build quality and supporting israel with hardware.

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    Strange I never had any problems with PW, for me it’s probably the most reliable Linux software there is

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      the bluetooth pipewire pulseaudio mix could be a bit better.

      It’s gotten to the point that my bluetooth headphones will not connect to my laptop because I don’t currently have any media playing.

      Load up a youtube video, the audio device springs into life, offers it up as pulseaudio source, who signals to bluez that there is a valid audio profile and suddenly everything connects.

      From an efficiency standpoint, yes I get it. From a UX standpoint… please just let my earphones connect when I enable bluetooth from the get go

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    I definitely remember having to futz with audio a looooong time ago, but honestly getting xf86config to work with my video card and monitor was much more difficult.

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        I think I managed to skip the ndiswrapper era. I was using Ethernet on desktops and my laptops were Macs. Nowadays my desktop has both wifi and Ethernet, and my laptops run Linux but nmtui just works.

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    You know, I don’t get this joke. I have been using Linux and BSD since 2019, and the only incident I ever had was with sndio(7), and that was because I decided to switch to the -current branch of OpenBSD without heeding the warnings.

    Apart from that, whether I was using ALSA, PulseAudio, PipeWire, JACK, or OSS (on FreeBSD), I always had a perfect experience.

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          Oh. To be fair, the PulseAudio days started off REALLY shit and JACK/ALSA had the limitations of “locking” an audio device to a specific process/application, so it used to be much rougher.

          Ever since pipewire came along, it’s been really solid.

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    Ive not been using Linux for long, maybe only 5 years or so. But I’ve never had any audio issues.

    My audio needs are not as straightforward as the average user. I play drums over midi into reaper. I have used guitars and mics through my audio interface. My midi controllers work without any issues.

    Im using pipewire and running reaper with pipewire-jack. I’ve used mint for years with no issues, and now running debian Trixie with no issues.

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      Linux user for 20 years: in my days I has to compile X by hand if I wanted a graphic interface.

      Linux users for 10 years: kinda worked, sometimes you had to install the same a couple of times with different configurations until one worked for you.

      Linux user for 5 years: lmao, this easier than windows.

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      It’s mostly an old notion that just won’t die. Especially in the years after its initial release (2004) it was just a disastrous experience sometimes with cracking noises, misconfigured sinks (or outright missing), crashes and - if I still remember one of my first Linux experiences with Ubuntu 8.04 right - the sudden decision to repeat the current audio buffer at maximum volume.

      Ever since I came back to Linux on Desktop around 2017 I didn’t had any bigger issues with Pulse either. Ever since Pipewire became the default stuff just works, no issues whatsoever.

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    Yeah, this and a bunch of nearsighted VST developers are the only things keeping me from switching to Linux entirely anymore. Things have definitely gotten better on the Linux side of things, and definitely gotten worse with Windows, so I feel like it’s only a matter of time.

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    Flashbacks to having pavucontrol open, editing default.pa and watching pulse crash over and over trying to get echo cancelling working

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    Been around since OSS and ALSA was the new kid on the block. Yet to experience these supposed sound issues.

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      Yeah I am also running linux for 20 years or so. Minor hiccups here and there, but sound has been solid generally.

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      You must have been blessed by the hardware gods. I had several scripts bound to hotkeys to fix various issues that would occur regularly and this was only 5 or so years ago. Volume would reset, wrong sink would get selected, it would crash, it would crackle, it had bad latency but most of the time it was fine.

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      Same, I have it running on several different laptops/desktops, it’s probably a certain piece of hardware.

      I’m sure it’s happening to people, just not everyone.

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      I 'member having to use a script to do software mixing of multiple audio streams in alsa, so I could listen to a music CD while playing WOW. Otherwise whichever thing started first would grab the audio device and the other thing couldn’t use it. This would’ve been back in like 2006-7.

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    Gotta be real here for a moment, the last time I had any sort of trouble with audio on Linux was back in the day when I was still fiddling about with Gentoo. But that was, what, fifteen, twenty years ago?

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    what is Pipeware? only install other thing, Linux is rich of alternatives (you don’t have to cry for convincing to MS/Apple)