Donald Trump made clear that his personal grudge with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky hasn’t abated during a phone interview with NBC News.
Speaking with Meet the Press anchor Kristen Welker on Saturday, the president knocked Zelensky for offering assistance to the U.S. and Middle Eastern countries, the latter of which the Ukrainian president said on Friday were seeking his aid in sharing drone detection technology.
The “last person we need help from is Zelensky,” Trump told Welker.
And Trump wins the Oscar for dumbest man alive, dead, or in a vegetative state 🏆
“Personal grudge”? Trump is a Russian asset. He doesn’t give a fuck about Ukraine.
Trump treated Zelensky like a wet rag when he invited him to the whitehouse and Zelensky still willing to offer his first hand knowledge and experience of drone warfare.
That’s how a true diplomat works.
It’s really telling how everyone went from “this is an illegal war and it needs to end” to “zelenski is so based for wanting to help America with with the war”
This obsession American liberals have with zelenski where he seemingly can’t do wrong is so weird. He does a lot wrong, this is one the wrongs. He’s offering to help extend the war and make it significantly more deadly.
I think Zelensky knows a lot of us in the US support him and Ukraine.
Well, also, strategically any pain for Iran is good for Ukraine, since Iran supplies Russia.
Drone warfare? You mean, the kind of warfare “defeated” Iran is using to totally shut down the Strait of Hormuz and which will crush the entire world’s economy in the next few months? That kind of warfare?
That’s what being in a fucking pickle means.
I mean, I’d do the same…
That’s what being the bigger man truly means. In more ways that one.
Zelensky is the bigger man in this case. Again, in more ways than one.
I think Zelensky is probably looking for some quid pro quo.
Obviously. It’s also meant as a “thank you for the support US have given Ukraine, allow us to share what we’ve learned in our drone warfare.”
But Trumps pride cannot handle that Zelensky might have something to teach the US when it comes to warfare.
No, they’ve been actively making this offer to all their allies for a while now. This isn’t recent. Everyone else took them up on it. Not a quid pro quo so much as just being a good friend to their good friends. The US could have been working with them on this for over a year IIRC, but they were too damn proud to accept any help from anyone else.
Most of the NATO countries training Ukrainians have been doing this since Day 1 (Mostly UK, Germany and Spain afaik). It’s one of the main reasons to offer continuous training at local bases rather than ‘just’ sending officers to Ukraine.
This is the first conflict between two modern militaries since the Falklands. And that wasn’t broadly applicable for many many reasons. From a pragmatic point of view, militaries have been absolutely desperate to ingest lessons learned from the moment we started sending our materiel.
I know for a fact that Canada has been paying very, very close attention.
Buy he want wearing a suit. Difmt you know the suit is the only thing keeping you from looking like a gross pedophile blob?
Didn’t even say thank you!
/s
President Zelensky should send Krasnov the heavily redacted version of Ukraine’s defense program. The people with common sense already know the orange turd will send the classified documents straight to fucking Moscow.
He’s such an ungracious pile of garbage to the point where he’s ok with our allies and citizens dying.
That relationship exploded early last year, when the president and Vice President JD Vance appeared to engineer a confrontation with the Ukrainian leader at the White House. The two blamed him for gambling with “World War Three” as the conversation devolved into a shouting match in front of the cameras that stunned reporters in the room.
No, you’re gambling with ww3
Look. Trump has gone bankrupt THREE TIMES from owning casinos.
The man clearly has no idea how gambling works.
As they launch into random wars with several middle eastern nations and beyond… Le sigh.
Gambling with “world war three” — you mean like attacking a large nation that’s friendly with China and Russia and has a choke hold on international shipping of crude oil?
But BiBi told him to
What was Drumpf supposed to do?
Not attack Iran? >!and risk BiBi showing the world the dirt he has on him?!<
Drumpfkopf
Ukraine is winning because they found cheaper drone defenses than drones…
Were burning thru our sophisticated interceptors because we’re wasting them on drones 1/100th the prices.
Iran just has to keep pumping out the same drones they’ve been sending to Russia.
Like, Ukraine is literally the one government that knows how to win this kind of war.
Haaaaaaang on.
Are you saykng that Iran has been supplying Russia with drones, and now they’ll be keeping them to use against the USA, for the explicit purpose of being destroyed?
So, wouldn’t this mean Russia loses their supply? So wouldn’t that mean it’s actually in Zelenskyys best interest to NOT help the USA?
If USA ends their war quickly, Iran starts supplying Russia again with drones. But until that happens, wouldn’t Ukraine have an easier time in their own war?
This was my first take too, but I think that was mostly true in the first years when the rot in the russian military was more prevalent. They have been steadily cleaning up and ramping up production across their MIC and they also have local Shahed production now set up by Iranian engineers afaik.
That means that the main limits on Russias ability to get drones is now primarily financial, rather than production volume. So while they lost some of their effective production, they have made so much money out of this, that even if it ends today, their biggest challenge, their economy, is hugely improved. If it continues, they will be able to afford even more production.
With the effectiveness of the Shaheds, I wouldn’t be surprised if China is also pumping them out and Russia can buy them there. If NATO dumped a bunch of money into reverse engineering and setting up production, Iranian allies sure as hell should have.
Yes, Russia will lose a part of their supply.
They will also gain a lot of money they can use to buy things from other places.
If USA ends their war quickly
The only way the US ends this war quickly is by retreating. Drones or not it’s a quagmire.
War agsinst a non-nuclear state onlu needs 2 things to be quick.
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A shitload of nukes
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Someone in charge of those nukes who has no morals or empathy.
At this point, the only thing making the war take more than a day, is the fact that somehow trump thought better of dropping 4,000 nukes spread out over the entirety of Iran. They’d probably call it something like “Operation Scorched Earth”.
Nukes risk triggering MAD, that’s the end of the world
Iran has no nukes.
Nope but China, Israel, Russia, India and Pakistan all do and its probably unclear who the US would be launching at when they’re all headed towards Iran. Lots of itchy trigger fingers around.
Israel is the only country even marginally close enough to be mistaken for the target.
And they would know we’re not going to fire upon them. We’re apperently sucking their dick politically.
None of that would make sense for any of those countries to think it’s aimed at them.
Let me put it in baseball terms. You’re looking at an infield pop fly, and worried that the outfielders might catch it. Or in the case of Russia, a fan in the upper bowl of the bleachers. The trajectory doesn’t line up for that to make sense.
MAYBE Israel, but again, they know they’re safe from us.
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Russia is getting a huge advantage from the Iran-US war. Trump, as a Russian asset, had the excuse he needed to lift sanctions on Russian oil.
Ukraine needs to cut off Russian oil, which means stopping the Iran threat.
The USA is rapidly burning through munitions that Ukraine desperately needs. I suspect the loss of those anti air weapons etc is much worse for Ukraine than the small reduction in drones launched at them.
I honestly hadn’t realised munitions were so difficult to produce. Everyone concerned about burning through stockpiles. I guess in non-war times you don’t need the capability to produce a lot in a short time.
That’s exactly it, yes. Modern armaments production is geared around low intensity conflicts and maintaining existing stockpiles. It’s not set up for full militarization. That’s a good thing in a lot of ways; economies geared for war end up needing war. But it means that even a nation like the US can only sustain a high intensity conflict for so long.
Iran is particularly taxing because they’re focused heavily on the use of cheap drone munitions, which the US just does not have a cost effective way of intercepting. US air defense is still designed around shooting down expensive planes and missiles. Patriot is an incredible air defense system, but it’s ungodly expensive. The whole system costs over a billion dollars, and the missiles are 4 million each. If one of those missiles shoots down a $50 million Mig-29, that’s a really good deal. A $20,000 shahed drone… Not so much.
Ukraine unfortunately is not winning and is in serious trouble.
Russia uses Iranian drones…
The price just skyrocketed and supply might go to zero if Iran uses all they can make
For a relatively small nation like Ukraine, still standing against the full might of Russian agression after four years, is winning it.
You are looking locally, not globally.
“Serious trouble” is holding the world’s supposed second most powerful military to a gain of only 0.8% of Ukraine’s territory after the initial invasion?
“Serious trouble” is a 27:1 casualty ratio in Ukraine’s favor, with over 1.2 million dead or wounded on Russia’s side?
If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge over the Volga to sell you.
Serious trouble” is a 27:1 casualty ratio in Ukraine’s favor,
Your other points are true. This, sadly, is not. The situation is at best 4:1, in really bad sectors, 3:1. It also varies - wounded Russian soldiers tend to die of their wounds far more often than wounded Ukrainian soldiers.
However, if it was 2.7:1, it was too pessimistic.
How did you come to that assessment, if you don’t mind my asking?
You’re probably the type of person to think the south was winning the civil war, until they didn’t.
Russia’s long term strategy ends in failure. Every week that Ukraine still exists, they are one step closer to losing.
Russia’s equipment is finite, Ukraine’s is not.
I’m with you until the last sentence. How is that true?
Supply lines and logistics.
Ukraine’s military equipment is a mix of NATO surplus gear (ample supplies of such gear in most NATO countries, or found on the global markets), homegrown drones/missiles (can be replaced), and various other equipment for sale in the western MIC.
Russia’s primary equipment is gear that was made in Russia or in former Eastern Bloc countries like Ukraine. Russia’s equipment being finite comes from two things; they are burning through their vast Soviet surplus at a rate that is not sustainable, and their domestic and their domestic production of equipment cannot backfill those losses of the more modern equipment.
A bunch of the lynchpin systems Russia relies on cannot even be manufactured anymore, so when radar systems are destroyed, the replacement of such equipment cannot be easily done.
Guys, in starting to think this president might be a Russian asset
Wait just a minute.
Just because everything he says and does is intended to benefit his Russian masters, it doesnt mean he’s a Russian asset
Hes the oldest 3 year old brat in history
Cucked little bitch. Putin’s dick is so far down his throat that he’s able to fuck his breakfast Big Mac.
I still cannot believe that this pube-flecked chunk of human excrement won a second term. It’s still genuinely sickening to me, like my stomach really feels like I’m perpetually tipping over the apogee of a rollercoaster when I remember what happened. His winning the first term was at least comprehensible, but I’m still punchdrunk from the shock of it all, even after all this time. And I’m not even from the US! I can’t imagine what it feels like for the people who have to live there, especially those who aren’t cis-white-hetero-males.
Anyone who has spent any time in the US shouldn’t be surprised by him winning. It was and is still shockingly frustrating and disappointing, but unfortunately that’s only because it’s an emotionally difficult pill to swallow how awful so much of it is.
Sort of how no one is surprised when Israel bomb indiscriminately, the US invades/coups/bombs another country, Saudi executes a bunch of people, Russia is excessively brutal, massacres in African conflicts if not genocides and ethnic cleansing that most of the world ignores.
No matter how predictable, it is always shockingly horrifying, but not surprising.
JFC, HE CHEATED! Everybody knows it! He won EVERY swing states? That’s was pretty much a statistical impossibility. They made no secret of it, both Trump and Musk both said many times that they intended to steal it.
All they had to do was flip one vote in seven states. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Democratic ballots, with Trump at the top. MILLIONS OF THEM! Who does that? Who votes that way? Have you ever met a person who voted straight Democratic, except for Trump? I’ve never met one, and I’ve never seen one on TV. That’s because they don’t exist, not in any significant numbers.
And the craziest thing is, they ONLY seem to exist in the swing states, because that vote pattern didn’t occur anywhere else.
But as soon as the polls closed, the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries immediately declared Trump’s victory “fair & square,” abdicating their sworn responsibilities, and condemning America to the political Hell we are being dragged through.
If it was “fair & square,” it was the first time in his entire life that Trump didn’t cheat, and it is highly doubtful that he would choose the one election that would keep him him out of a life sentence in prison to finally play it straight. Does that sound like the Trump we know?
Quit doubting America, quit doubting Harris’s campaign, and place the blame where it belongs - on Trump, and his evil cabal of corrupt, treasonous, pedophiles.
Why would a Russian asset successfully weakening our ties with other countries, destroying our economy, and exposing our troops to unnecessary harm… want something that works?
He and his maggot faithful are speed running losing as if it were their explicit purpose.
Ukraine is one of 2 nations that have first hand experience with drone warfare and the defence against. I wonder what the US generals are thinking? Maybe Russia has offered to help.
This isn’t about Zelenski, Trump has a grudge against any political leader that isn’t corrupt.
Do you mean Zelenskyy is not corrupt?
lets hope the Devil stops controlling him. And all the other nations can forgive those who voted this nightmare on the world. he wanted a nobel prize lets give him a trophy for starting Armageddon
Did we really expect anything else from the guy who wanted to swap out a 4 star general for a TV host as their minister of defence? Seems to be par for the course.
Meanwhile, everyone else is looking at Ukraine, taking notes every single day. We now know what the war of tomorrow will look like. That is a rare opportunity. Completely wasted on Americans that think brute force is always the answer.
Not just looking and taking notes; being actively trained by Ukraine. They didn’t just make this offer to their allies yesterday. Every other nation that’s been rendering assistance to Ukraine has been actively receiving training in drone warfare from them in return for a while now. The US refused because they were too arrogant to think Ukraine had anything to teach them. And then they started a war with a nation that’s leading the way in cheap combat drones. Drones that Ukraine already knows how to counter.
And people have died for that arrogance.
