• Valmond@lemmy.world
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    Isn’t it time to step up to these bullies? Iran, NK, Russia and China.

    Human life is more worth than some dictators ego.

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      Most countries don’t actually care. These countries are valuable to them in resources and power, and will keep funding them. Even beacons of “democracy” will fund terrorists and human rights abusers, so long as the oil and power keeps flowing in their pockets, such as France and the RSF, the US and most countries to the Gulf states + Israel, and more.

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        the US and most countries to the Gulf states + Israel, and more.

        I know you said “and more” but that list should probably include ISIS.

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          Yep, but nowadays, ISIS is a shadow of its former self. (plus, i forgot that they exist. haven’t heard of them in years except when the massacre in russia occurred) and besides, saudi arabia has done more to benefit ISIS than the west.

          There are more immediate threats in the MENA, such the sudanese civil war, the gulf’s human rights abuses/absolute dictatorships, the palestinian genocide, iran, libya/iraq’s failed states, egypts police state, the future of syria, turkeys hatred of kurds, so on and so forth…

          Boy, we just can’t catch a break here.

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        We can become energy independent, give all the weapons Ukraine needs, go after Russias cyber warfare, and more.

        Edit: Angry downvoters lol

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            Yes, China is the hardest part, if we just stop having economic relations with them, then we have way less soft power for example. We should help Taiwan for example.

            Russia though, is propping up Iran (or did so) and NK, so affecting russia affects Iran, NK not so much.

            But standing strong together is s first step, and sanktion where it can be done too.

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      Iran is standing up to the American dictatorship which is committing genocide. Keep virtue signaling about that headscarf while massacarring women and children. Your horse is lower than theirs.

      Imagine advocating to murder women to “liberate them from their headscarf” in 2024.

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      Yes now is the time especially wrt Iran and ruzzia. Irans proxies are significantly weakened in Syria and Lebanon. Russia also lost influence in Syria now that the freedom-loving people of Syria have risen up. Russia is also losing in Ukraine.

      Either these countries buck up and accept the Rules Based Order or pay the consequences.

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        What rules-based order? Gestures vaguely at the Middle East. Also you’re forgetting that all these countries are bankrolled by China so while they’re weakened they still have a strong backer who’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

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            “Civilized world”? what do you mean by this? i don’t like jumping to conclusions, but are you implying that the rest of us are uncivilized?

            And as i’ve said in another comment, the “civilized world” only cares to benefit itself. If china was a good puppet the western countries would have no problem with them. (not to imply i support china, they are a fascist, capitalist authoritarian shithole and are committing genocide)

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              Civilised world:

              Where you can speak your mind.

              Is it really that hard?

              That doesn’t mean the people in those countries cannot be civilised, as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.

              Incoming: “USA bad”

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                Where you can speak your mind.

                The US killed 200,000 Iraqis and 70,000 Afghans. They were all civilians.

                France and Israel fund the RSF, which rape, murder, ransom, and cause terror to the Sudanese people.

                Britain and France carved up the middle east like their plaything after the Arab revolt, and funded ultra-conservatism.

                Not even 100 years ago, Germany committed one of the worst genocides known to man, against Jews.

                All of these countries fund the on-going Palestinian genocide, and fund the gulf states, which employ slavery, and commit endless human rights abuses.

                But you’re civilized, and we’re just a bunch of savages.

                as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.

                What does this even mean? mass shootings happen in the US every week.

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                    The world isn’t black and white. But calling them “civilized” is disingenuous. A country can’t be civilized while also massacring and committing genocides abroad, no matter how much freedom you have.

                    No country is civilized, from what i can tell.

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                Where you can speak your mind.

                Have you seen the crackdown on pro-Palestinian activism in like half the Weet? If that’s youe standard for civilization then your “civilized world” is gonna be two or three countries tops.

                That doesn’t mean the people in those countries cannot be civilised, as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.

                I legit don’t understand what you mean there.

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                  I can say free palestine, scream it even and nothing will happen to me. Where on earth do you get your clickbait news from?

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                    Uh… Look up “crackdowns on pro-Palestine activists” and see what you’ll get. It’s mostly a thing in university campuses, which while definitely not as bad as China is absolutely not free speech.