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Labour MPs have begun quitting X in alarm over the platform, with one saying Elon Musk had turned it into “a megaphone for foreign adversaries and far-right fringe groups”.
Over the weekend, newly elected MPs took to WhatsApp groups to raise growing concerns about the role X played in the spread of misinformation amid the far-right-led riots in parts of England and Northern Ireland.
Two Labour MPs are known to have told colleagues they were leaving the platform. One of them, Noah Law, has disabled his account. Other MPs who still use X have begun examining alternatives, including Threads, which is owned by Facebook’s parent company, Meta, and the open-source platform Bluesky.
In an article for the Guardian on Monday, a former Twitter executive, Bruce Daisley, said Musk should face personal sanctions and even an arrest warrant if he continues to stir up public disorder online.
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No shit. The amount of far-right propaganda, hate and disinformation it’s pushing is so much that it’s pretty much over the line as an extremist site now, and I expect it to start getting flagged as that with a lot more organisations.
Musk wants to set the world on fire and X is his box of matches.
How powerful a tool X is depends on how much legitimacy it can gain. If politicians are leaving the platform it can’t be long before advertisers also leave. I’m old enough to remember Myspace. Even Facebook is a bit pacé nowadays.
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Or is that a language I don’t know?
Of course, none of them are going to the fediverse, because social media that’s not owned by a corporate entity and ready for algorithmic enshittification is not a thing for normal people.
I could imagine Labour HQ running their own Lemmy server for their MPs and staff.
Would be interesting, but Lemmy and Mastodon would both need some work to tick some security and compliance checkboxes.
On the plus side, we could get proper 2FA support (i.e. Yubikeys or TOTP tokens) as a result. I’d love to get some more use out of that old yubikey.
I really wish Bluesky could federate with other Mastodon servers.
Also, fuck Threads.
Tbf - once the fediverse gets big enough it’s kind of open season for misinformation spreading groups. They can just join another server once the one they used got blocked. Worst case they get onto a server that actually gets used by normal people and produce a lot of casualties by getting the server defederated.
I think it’s a nice concept but for this type of misinformation it’s really not the best thing…
I’ve been saying this for a year now but no one cares to listen.
Federating with all instances by default only works if admins and mods of all instances are acting in good faith. Sooner or later that won’t be the case.
Do you think systems like fediseer would help with that? As I understand it’s a voucher based reputation system.
It really depends how well maintained the instances are. This extra work may come at a cost. Which may exclude some of the opportunists.
If by “well maintained” you mean keeping a whitelist of instances, then yeah. But I doubt anyone is doing that because it’s actually counterproductive to the concept of fediverse. By keeping a whitelist you are creating an in group and an out group and instances can live or die based on that grouping.
As for why you’d need a whitelist, you can’t defend against a malicious attack if they keep spinning up new instances with bots designed to spread misinformation. The moment you ban once instance another one gets spun up. The only solution is a whitelist so all new instances are automatically blocked. Of course that works if all “normal” instances also have proper registration policies and can’t become attack vectors.
If the fediverse becomes wildly popular defending the instance can become a full-time job as the open nature gives more attack vectors. Also most instances are ran by volunteers so it’s probably not going to be a good time for anyone.
Don’t the french and german people use it? I swear I saw that post somewhere.
As should everyone. At a certain point you’re sticking around a place that literally promotes racism and hatred and pedophilia and actual nazis well it says things about you. And I’ve heard the arguments before about how convenient Twitter still is, about how it was just easier. I’ve heard those kind of arguments about hanging out with Nazis before. Came from Germans who pretended like they weren’t Nazis.
Took 'em long enough. Everybody should’ve ditched Twitter like a year ago.
Stopped using it the moment it became “X”. Realized a few weeks ago that I still had an account and that I hadn’t missed it once. Deleted the account and now happily live in a Twitter free bubble.
That place was toxic before musk got a hold of it. I can’t imagine how bad it is now.
Meanwhile, Trump is going to DeSantis himself on Twitter tonight with an “uncensored” live conversation with Musk.
Oh my god, he DeSantised all over himself! That’s fucking disgusting. I haven’t DeSantised myself since the fourth grade. I mean, sure, I’ve Gulianied myself, but who hasn’t eaten too much Taco Bell and then Gulianied themselves on a regrettably hot day?
I wish own/governments/journalists started running their own mastodon instances.
For authentication more than anything else.
If I see kier.starmer@mastodon.gov.uk I’d know it was him. I see therealkierstarmer on twitter and it could be any joker with $8 to spare.
On the contrary they are starting to use Twitter to declare war and post about resigning as presidential candidate.
Who declared war via a social media platform? That sounds like horrible military strategy
But that’s not where the average voter is. It’s not really where any of their constituents are.
Build it and they will come. The media will follow for the story and people will hear the message. Maybe.
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Most public facing organsations quit it when they started requiring an account to be logged in to see tweets.
What’s the use of it as an official announcement platform if only logged in twitter users can see it?
I never created an account on xitter. I tried on Mastodon, and the tool was designated for people who love attention. The reason they are afraid to switch is losing their audience.
Maybe labeling them something embarrassing like Nazi sympathizers could help, but I even doubt that would do anything.
BTW: what do you call 9 Nazis and one non-nazi sitting together? 10 Nazis.
