The sound of many of them exploding
Call it for what it is, a terrorist attack.
The media condemned political violence against Trump in unison one month ago.
Israel commits one of the biggest terrorist attacks against a Lebanese political organization in history and the media claps.
If this was the other way around, we’d have global outrage, days of mourning and piles of new weapons for Israel right now. We’d be speaking about one of the worst terrorist attacks in history.
Bingo.
So, what Israel is admitting here, is that they could individually pinpoint and target Hamas but instead carpet bombed Palestine into genocide.
supply chain attacks are dirty tactics too, they have no idea who is holding 3000 pagers when detonation.
For smartphones they actually could, they could tie the lipo pack serial number to the imei and work everything out from there.
Then make sure it’s been unlocked via biometrics within a second or so.
It’s very rare that someone else holds a phone to be unlocked for you, though it does happen, still the closest to a targeted kill.
You would have to guarantee those phones would eventually end up in the right person’s hands.
Otherwise if you sabotage 100 phones and only 30 go to your targets, even if you only detonate those 30 there are now 70 phones out there randomly floating around with enough explosives to kill some random person.
I use a code to unlock. Biometrics can be unlocked while unconscious or restrained. Fuck that.
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since English isn’t something you’re comfortable reading
I’m having a hard time figuring out what they said that merited this level of hostility. They weren’t even arguing with you!?
They literally knew about the attack before it happened. Genocide was always the primary goal.
Israel is obviously behind the attacks but has not taken responsibility for them yet. So no, they’re not admitting anything.
This is the key thing here. People can whine about this attack, but this was targeted and it worked with low collateral damage, which also makes it legal (as in not a war crime).
The problem is everything else that Israel is doing since Oct 7, causing 1/3 of the Palestinian casualties to be children.
Customary international humanitarian lawprohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction.
It’s low collateral damage the same way a suicide bomber is. So, I guess, your IDF-brained take is suicide bombers are low casualty and precise.
It’s a low collateral attack when you see civilians as enemies and want literally all of them dead.
The very nature of a supply chain sabotage like this is indiscriminate.
Five years ago, if you had asked me if Israel would be committing terrorist attacks across Palestine, Lebanon and beyond, I would have said absolutely not.
I would have been wrong, even back then, but jesus fucking christ, what an absolute shambles.
How my government supports this state-sponsored terrorism is beyond me.
Hezbollah are enemy combatants. These were ordered by and for Hezbollah. Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants.
Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants
How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?
If you want to be pedantic, and you’re talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?
Don’t be a genocide apologist.
They verified that all of the devices were in the possession of Hezbollah before they detonated them?
Is what why their pager terrorism killed a child and caused 2000+ injuries, including dismemberment of other children?
Now they just repeated it, I’m sure with the same disregard for living people they have already shown.
What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?
What do you think about Israel never ceasing hostilities?
For real, read a book every once in awhile.
But Israel did cease hostilities, right untill Hezbollah started them again…
No they didn’t. They very specifically never stopped actions in countries they aren’t at war with and notably as the article states THEY WERE PLANTING BOMBS IN CIVILIAN ITEMS again in countries they aren’t at war with.
These bomb-planting shenanigans only began after Hezbollah restarted the hostilities
Also, why do you consider devices used for military communications as civilian items (in all caps no less)
Holy whataboutism Batman.
It’s whataboutism to say someone shouldn’t have started the fight in the first place?
Israel started the fight in 1982. Hezbollah was formed in response.
Ok, so in your mind, the year is 1982. Israel just invaded Southern Lebanon and is fighting the PLO. Nothing like Israel withdrawing, the entire Lebanese civil war, the '90s, the 2006 war, the events of 2023 has happened. 1982 Hezbollah received some missiles from the future and fired them at some Israelis that haven’t been born yet.
It is forever 1982, and the killing will never end
The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.
Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.
Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?
You are defending the murder of children.
I’m condemning starting a war in which children are going to die
Doesn’t really matter if they weren’t targeted if they still ended up dead.
So, like, are Israeli reservists fair game for terror attacks?
But if they are active duty and have military comms, it’s just called an “attack”, not a “terror attack”, even if the attackers are otherwise terrorists.
And your evidence that Israel only targetted active duty Hezbollah combattants?
You know you can just not type right? These thoughts that just stream into your head, they don’t need to be shared. You can also read sources and understand that “military comms” can’t accurately be targeted by this attack because of the very nature of radio. Nobody is logging into a badguy frequency and being targeted and identified. Thats not how any of this could possibly work.
You should take your own advice
Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah gave them to to coordinate with. You can’t really get more targeted than that. There’s not some magic Jewish radio waves blowing up civilian radios lol.
Except that these pagers were distributed to more than just hezbollah. AUB (American university of Beirut) medical workers had them too, for example.
So Israel planted explosives in known communication devices, that could easily be tracked or also had pinpoint tracking technology included with the explosive, then deliberately waited until the intended targets could cause collateral damage to unarmed civilians to set them off? And you argue this is different from terrorism in what way?
Just anyone in an airplane or bus or subway with them
This is a super-villain plan becoming a reality.
Lotta Hezbollah flags in that crowd, was that some kind of funeral procession from yesterday’s pagers?
Yes, a funeral procession for 4 members.
Exponential funeral growth.
I saw this on Reddit first while I was checking my city subreddit, damn the headline there definitely gives a different impression.
(The comments are all mostly jokes, didn’t even bother wading through them and came to see If Lemmy had a thread instead).
R/worldnews? It’s completely run by zionists. Anything critical or Israel or pro Palestinian gets instantly nuked
At this point, r/worldnews comments are so thoroughly astroturfed by so many global powers, their only use is to get an idea of what various propaganda machines think.
If this carries on, we’ll have exploding semaphore flags by the end of the week.
Don’t mess with Americas boats
So if I understand correctly, Israel managed to get a bunch of people in Hezbollah to use pagers and walkie talkies that contained bombs. But they have not been able to gather enough intelligence from control of those communication devices to find and rescue the remaining hostages? And if they weren’t able to catch useful information from those devices, why did the people holding those devices deserve to get blown up?
Hezbollah operates out of Lebanon, and the hostages are in Gaza? They have nothing to do with each other…
Thanks. I honestly haven’t been following it all closely. (I guess that’s obvious from my last comment). But why blow up a bunch of people in Lebanon?
This might help to clarify.
You are forgetting one simple fact. They don’t care about the hostages.
Oh, they definitely do, in their own way.
The hostages are in Gaza, not Lebanon. If Israel had this level of infiltration with Hamas, it is unlikely this would’ve started in the first place
So if I understand correctly, Israel managed to get a bunch of people in Hezbollah to use pagers and walkie talkies that contained bombs.
Think about it like, there’s one person who was able to tell the perpetrators of this that a big order of communication devices is being made.
Perpetrators are clearly sophisticated so it’s fair to assume they can throw some skilled team at it.
This attack could be years in the making.
I heard 5 months, forgot where from.
From a spy craft and capabilities standpoint it’s an amazing attack. I’m skeptical that using the devices as bombs is more useful than using them for spying, but who knows? It is super fucked up that random people who happen to be near the targets could be hurt. But between that and the stuxnet attack, it’s safe to say that Israel is capable of crazy sophisticated attacks.
Someone tell them the Palm Pilots aren’t safe either
Samsung Galaxy note 7
Might have to break out my Newton as a precautionary measure.
Whatever you do, don’t use the stylus! /s
Shit, we use the same radios at work. Hope no-one blew up.
Booby-trapped walkie-talkies and pagers.
Ok, guys, after the pager thing, I am pretty sure walkie talkies are next. Like that’s really An obvious one.
I don’t have any ideas on what next. Landline phones probably.
Cups with strings
Owch that couch Pic.
