• Realitätsverlust@lemmy.zip
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    19 days ago

    I mean, the commenter is right. Both can be true. I’d even say both is true.

    Trump is not understanding tariffs and is lying.

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    I don’t think going into a fox news comment section is going to give you any useful info. The thing seems like it’s full of the “people of facebook” combined with a shitload of bots and trolls. I don’t think it’s representative of literally anybody.

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    19 days ago

    I feel like the comment is being sarcastic. Republicans would never admit the possibility of something negative about Trump.

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      except he also has his son lachlan murdoch is controlling the reins of fox, hes worst than his father.

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    Short term, that actually will happen. Long term, new trading routes will occur.

    Reason why would be that not producing could cost more than producing at a loss.

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    I’m pretty sure “Spice Melange” is trolling. Idk how someone would understand and enjoy the plot of Dune (assuming the book because IDK if they even used that term in the movies) with this poor of an understanding of how trade works.

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      One of the book details not carried through to the movie is the Baron’s plan to put Rabban in charge initially to fuck shit up and make everybody hate him, and then hand Arrakis over to Feyd-Rautha who would seem like a savior since he (supposedly) wouldn’t be as big of a dick as Rabban. Trump-to-Vance may have a similar arc.

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      They definitely used the term in the Lynch movie, but if you can follow that plot you may be even smarter than a reader of the book heh

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          That’s awesome, I want to see one of these cheatsheets now

          Edit: I just found a pic of one of the cheatsheets online and it was a little underwhelming, but I still love that they made it.

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            I should take a look at it. When I saw the movie in theaters, I contemptuously threw mine away without looking at it as I’d read all the books.

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    Honestly the fact that this fake news got going makes no sense to me. If you even atop for a second to think about how tarrifs are collected you’d know this would never be the case

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      He built a wall and Mexico paid for it. They remember that clearly, so what he says 10 years later must be true. Anyone surprised maga people believing this is surprising. lol.

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      Trump complains that other countries have tariffs on the US. Yet no US manufacturer ever seems to have paid them. Odd that.

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        This is why debating or having any discussion with them is beyond worthless. If they have nothing. They will simply pull it out of their ass.

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    Thing is, we’ve seen it at least a few times. Nintendo, for instance, did not increase the Switch 2 price. Many companies are afraid of adding a “tariff tax” label on goods.

    I personally don’t understand it. What I’ve heard is that part of the issue is when companies are in many fields, the government could choose to retaliate on any of them. Reject their H1B visas when they set higher product prices, for instance.

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      If I remember correctly what I’ve read, Nintendo will sell Vietnam made consoles to the US and China made consoles to the rest of the world. But even with that, they could reportedly sell the Switch 2 at lost in the US (!). I guess they expect to made the money back by selling games and and other not China-made stuff.

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      The switch 2 is also produced, in some capacity, in Vietnam. Apparently all the production from there is being redirected to the US to avoid tariffs, for now anyway.

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    It’s amazing is how they also talk about the profit motive being king… but then toss that out the window when they think they are like old school overlords demanding tribute from their underlings…

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      These people don’t understand that people in other countries are full human beings that don’t worship at the altar of american exceptionalism

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      The economy of US propaganda where the US is so strong and either loved or feared and such an important market that everyone from all other countries will bow to them and ignore making a profit to appease the mighty Murica, because they are simply the greatest in the world.

      Not to be confused with reality, where most of the world hates the US.

      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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        Yearning for the 1950s when 70% of the world manufacturing base was rubble.

        Gee look, they are orchastrating another world war where they can create those conditions again!

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        American Exceptionalism!

        I saw a similar thing in Britain during the Leave Campaign - lots of arguments of the “when we’re out the EU will give us most of the rights members have, but without the obligations” kind, anchored only on British Exceptionalism, and enough people fell for it that Leave won.

        Nationalist Delusions Of Grandeur is on hell of a drug.

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            Being an EU member comes with both Rights and Obligations and the objective was to have the former without the latter.

            In fact the Referendum was done because the UK wanted to not to have to obbey the Freedom Of Movement rules for EU citizens entering its country (i.e. the Obligation) whilst keeping it for its citizens entering other EU countries (i.e. the Right) and was using the threat of holding a Leave Referendum to try and blackmail the rest of the EU, and the rest of the EU said “No!”

            (This was actually just the later of a long series of instances of the British Government using that technique to get from the rest of the EU “exceptions” from the EU treaties, which went all the way back to Thatcher’s time and was how Britain had so many exceptions that nobody else had).

            The British Exceptionalism part is that many Britons genuinelly expected they would get that (and also similarly for a lot of other Rights and Obligations, such as being able to import bleached chicken from the US at the same time as having open and uncontrolled access to the Free Market were such food products are forbidden) from the EU as part of the Leave Negotiations.

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              Agree with most, but I would say the main reason the referendum was held because of domestic politics - Cameron was confident Remain would win, and wanted to shut up UKIP and the Eurosceptic wing of his own party.

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              They could have just gotten some regular chicken and sold it with a little bottle of bleach attached. They really didn’t have to resort to such dramatic measures. But that’s UK politics I suppose.

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                Indeed.

                Like Marmite, nobody would have stopped them from selling whatever disgusting seasoning they favour on the side. It’s the having it pre-added that’s the problem!

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    Tbh I hope this does kill sales of Amazon trinkets. I want less shit in stores. I’m assuming they operate on margins such that it might be possible to kill them. But it also might just kill all well-made items. Time will well.

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      Even for handmade items - what about the raw materials? I’ve never bought anything from Shein, but the yarn for the sweater I’m working on wasn’t made in the US. My woodcarving tools are Norwegian I think, my paints and brush from China…

      I guess if the economy crashes hard enough, maybe processing wool and spinning yarn will be viable jobs again? Life 100 BCE style…

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      Well-made items have razor thin profit margins too, the only items that survive this are the ones where your money was going into the owners pocket instead of wages, materials, or anything that improves the quality of the product; cheap products with high price-tags.

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    My bro in law sells boba tea supplies from Taiwan to all your favorite boba tea stores.

    He had a container that he was about to send but cancelled it because his margin is less than 10% and his stores he supports also runs a lean margin.

    Last week he decided to close one of his warehouses in Portland, letting go of 20 people and a few hundred stores that depend on him.

    When asked why he doesn’t just up the price, he said that if he did, the mass majority of the stores he supports won’t make it and the Oregon warehouse is barely breaking even.

    Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.

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      Did you ever ask him what policies or other actions the democrats could have taken to get his vote?

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        He said he honestly felt like the democrats weren’t listening to him. He’s a small business owner that is struggling and outside of AOC or Bernie, the democrats system wasn’t setting himself up for success.

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      he sat out this election

      No sympathy. Dumbass got what he voted for, that he didn’t care if Trump won and did exactly what he said he was going to do. So why the sudden change of heart? Selfish fuck only cares when it impacts him personally.

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      Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.

      ouch, this always hurts. I choose to still have empathy with him, even if he did make a extremely stupid decision.

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        It’s not like it would’ve made a difference in Oregon. There’s like only a couple 100000 swing voters that really matter when it comes to the presidency. (Local issues might still make it worth coming out for tho).

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      Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.

      what, like Oregon could’ve gone 70% democratic instead of 55%?

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        He is registered in the outskirts of Clark County in NV. His vote counted there.

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      I have less than zero sympathy for your BIL.

      tell him some random asshole on the Internet hopes he feels like a fucking idiot for the rest of his miserable life.